MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: CraigNiv on May 13, 2012, 06:31:13 am

Title: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: CraigNiv on May 13, 2012, 06:31:13 am
A common problem in the mk5 has struck mine, rust in the front arches.

I'm going to replace the wings etc, however I have been quoted 850 for the full monty (parts/paint/labour).

This seems awful pricey, anyone had experience of best way to go about this, and prices?
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2012, 07:05:01 am
May i ask if there's any hope for a rear wheel  arch rust warranty claim by anyone's experience? thanks
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Saintsteve on May 13, 2012, 07:12:20 am
A common problem in the mk5 has struck mine, rust in the front arches.

I'm going to replace the wings etc, however I have been quoted 850 for the full monty (parts/paint/labour).

This seems awful pricey, anyone had experience of best way to go about this, and prices?

surely this a free warranty issue...   :confused: have you approached an approved VW dealer before forking out?
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Nodz on May 13, 2012, 08:29:32 am
It shouldn't matter where its been serviced as this wouldn't have caused the rust issue. Also its EU law that you can have a vehicle serviced anywhere and the warranty remains unaffected so there should be some hope. If the dealer don't play ball next step is to go through VW UK
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: skard on May 13, 2012, 11:31:28 am
I have a 55 plate with rust on the front wings - it's been approved as a goodwill repair and I'm waiting on dates to book it in to the bodyshop.

If it makes you feel any better then my car has sparse VW history, but the inspector was spot on with me.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: dmac1969 on May 13, 2012, 11:39:20 am
Mine has rust as well , 05 plate - this must be costing VW a fortune!
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 13, 2012, 11:53:34 am
Got a couple of small spots.

At what stage is it NOT classed a warranty work?
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: skard on May 13, 2012, 12:02:36 pm
If your rust is on the front wing lip then it is not fixed under the paint/anti-corrosion warranty.
They may fix it due to goodwill as it is the outcome of a mechanical design flaw (plastic arch liner and foam holding water).

Any rust elsewhere on the car would be treated differently by the dealer I'd imagine (as it is a wholly seperate issue to this particular one) and the only way to know is to have it inspected.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 13, 2012, 12:15:38 pm
So all in all its at a dealers discretion to what the will or will not cover?

I'm 2nd owner and car has had fullt serivce history
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 18, 2012, 10:12:08 pm
Noticed that some OEM mud flaps can hold water and cause a little rush on the lower part wing/skirt.

If these were factory fit (day one) do you think this would/could be covered?
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: chrisr763 on May 19, 2012, 11:30:10 am
Just thismorning decided to look at the rush on my front near side wheel arch, Its at the top where the lining joins the arch. My car is an 05 tdi.... What can I say to VW, any chance they would fix it? I wont have any warrenty with them as the car is second hand... Newb :star:
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: beetie on May 19, 2012, 01:57:26 pm
the warranty is on the car not the owner go to vw and ask to claim through the anti corrosion warranty. :happy2:
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: RedRobin on May 19, 2012, 11:37:09 pm
According to the inspector at Glasgow,

rust is only covered under the 12 year anti-corrosion warranty unless its coming through the middle of a panel or the panel sheet is physically crumbling.

However as I've said they will fix it under good-will or pay a percentage if it's in a target area, which is the front arches, and yes Chris where the arch meets the side skirt is also an area they will fix/pay % under good will.


....That's not strictly true. VW have actually released a PDF to their agents on causes and repairs including replacement - It's in the thread about rust warranty. Rust starts because of foam strips collecting moisture on earlier cars.

I got mine done recently free of charge and my car is 05-plate and over 100,000 miles.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FWheelArch_paintlift.jpg&hash=416c4614a0aafbaf0c92e0ba4c1a3185cda25181)
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 20, 2012, 11:03:16 pm
i was flat out refused a warranty claim by cambridge VW. they wouldnt even submit it for consideration.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 20, 2012, 11:04:19 pm
i was flat out refused a warranty claim by cambridge VW. they wouldnt even submit it for consideration.
I've also got rust around the rear boot handle that was also refused.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2012, 12:57:54 am
^^^^
Do a Search on here re Rust Warranty and look for a post with an official VW PDF about front wings rust and the reasons for it. Use it to persuade your VW dealer and if that doesn't work, complain politely but firmly to VW UK and quote the PDF reference. Don't take no for an answer.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: N!CK R on May 31, 2012, 01:42:12 pm
I had a moan to VW revently about my front arches as they have started to rust and they told me it was due to the car being lowered.
Having battle with them at the moment...
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: RedRobin on May 31, 2012, 02:24:42 pm

I had a moan to VW recently about my front arches as they have started to rust and they told me it was due to the car being lowered.
Having battle with them at the moment...


....What a load of bollox!!

I had mine done FOC a few weeks ago and how lowered is mine!:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_sideRL.jpg&hash=e899791f9fcb5227772a62556d9499beabc9b32b)

Go to another VW dealer if they continue being awkward. Just how does a car's ride height induce rust? Have you modified your wings or wheel arches?

Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: N!CK R on May 31, 2012, 07:10:08 pm
Thats exactly the argument I put across. The fact that the car is lowered is completely irrelevent to the wheel arches. It has been lowered not spaced out! Grrrr.
I shall continue to pursue them until I get the outcome I am after.

Wings or arches have not been modified in any way at all.

Car looks so good in that pic, cleeaaannn!
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: MPS on June 04, 2012, 12:10:58 am
I have a 55 plate with rust on the front wings - it's been approved as a goodwill repair and I'm waiting on dates to book it in to the bodyshop.

If it makes you feel any better then my car has sparse VW history, but the inspector was spot on with me.

May I ask which dealership you took it to?
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: skard on June 04, 2012, 05:48:51 pm
Benfield Newcastle.
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: MPS on June 04, 2012, 06:30:25 pm
Cheers
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: vwrascal on June 04, 2012, 07:38:01 pm
i was flat out refused a warranty claim by cambridge VW. they wouldnt even submit it for consideration.

When was this? I took mine to milton road VW cambridge (they have bodyshop in cottenham). chris from warranty there was very helpful, took photos and paint readings from both wings, sent them off to VW UK, 3 days later I got a phone call to book car in  :happy2:  another call a couple days after that from bodyshop to confirm 2 new wings instead of repairing them - they weren't even that rusty  :party:  all covered by warranty 100%, car is 2006 '56' tornado red with 43,000 miles, full VW service history! I also got there only mk6 golf courtesy car '61' plate DSG, MFSW, Highline, bluetooth, cruise control, Parking sensors, RNS310, ipod mdi..... Missus loves it  :signLOL:
I did have this ready just incase but didn't even need to mention it! Result  :laugh:

http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf (http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf)

 :wink:

Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: vwrascal on June 04, 2012, 07:43:53 pm
I had a moan to VW revently about my front arches as they have started to rust and they told me it was due to the car being lowered.
Having battle with them at the moment...

My car is also lowered slammed on kw v1's, he did ask if it is lowered and I said yes  :signLOL: that was it  :chicken:
Suppose its down to the stealer on the day   :confused:
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Nodz on June 04, 2012, 07:45:30 pm

http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf (http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf)

 :wink:



I swear that .pdf was password protected the other day
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: RedRobin on June 04, 2012, 07:47:34 pm

http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf (http://www.vwgroup-paintandbody.co.uk/downloads/technical/2009Nov9CorrosionToGolkMk5FrontWing.pdf)

 :wink:



I swear that .pdf was password protected the other day


....It definitely was!
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: N!CK R on June 05, 2012, 08:12:12 pm
I had a moan to VW revently about my front arches as they have started to rust and they told me it was due to the car being lowered.
Having battle with them at the moment...

My car is also lowered slammed on kw v1's, he did ask if it is lowered and I said yes  :signLOL: that was it  :chicken:
Suppose its down to the stealer on the day   :confused:

Well that gives me some re-assurance I guess! I will keep fighting my corner and won't give up with it. I'll update as and when too!
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: Johnny_tro on July 07, 2012, 10:01:10 pm
Does anyone have a link to the VW corrosion policy? I need to have a read and try to approach dealer. I just don't know exactly what to say/what back up documents to ue. Have a bit on front wings and lower sill where water collected behind mud guards
Title: Re: Wing Rust Solution
Post by: RedRobin on July 07, 2012, 11:15:06 pm
^^^^
I don't have a copy of the overall corrosion policy but if you PM me your email address I'll send you a PDF re the wing rust issue.  :happy2: