MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: jimk04 on May 27, 2012, 11:06:54 am
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I have a slight issue with the pads slightly dragging the disc and so they are heating up even when not really in use.
The only thing I havent done is bond the pads to the anti rattle shims.
HAs everyone else done this?
On my mk2 Golf with 996 front over 305x25 - (pads not bonded again) I had no probs...maybe the thinner disc?
I literally had smoke pouring off them even after a relatively tame drive. No fade tho!
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Will keep an eye out thanks Jim. My kit came with used oem Porsche pads with the dampers already stuck on.
Will be sure to make sure they're stuck next time too
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Mine seem fine. I don't have shims in mine? Could be why they squeezing like a mother fu**ker sometimes!! :surprised:
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can i assume the shims are a dealer direct part?
anyone know a rough price?
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can i assume the shims are a dealer direct part?
anyone know a rough price?
they were about £35 when i bought mine a few months ago
you could try Euro Car Parts and the like
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can i assume the shims are a dealer direct part?
anyone know a rough price?
they were about £35 when i bought mine a few months ago
you could try Euro Car Parts and the like
nice one. :happy2:
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They were surprisingly cheap when I got them from Porsche Nottingham. £20 springs to mind I'll try and dig out the receipt.
He said its because they've been classed as service items
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They were surprisingly cheap when I got them from Porsche Nottingham. £20 springs to mind I'll try and dig out the receipt.
He said its because they've been classed as service items
really? i'm sure i paid £8 + VAT each for mine (and you need 4)
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I just remember them being less than I expected from a Porsche dealer.
Ill see if I can find the receipt in my stack
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if you're right i wanna know where you got them from lol. i went to Porsche Leeds for mine
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if you're right i wanna know where you got them from lol. i went to Porsche Leeds for mine
Just checked. Porsche Nottingham; £32.40 :( thought they were less
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I have a slight issue with the pads slightly dragging the disc and so they are heating up even when not really in use.
The only thing I havent done is bond the pads to the anti rattle shims.
HAs everyone else done this?
On my mk2 Golf with 996 front over 305x25 - (pads not bonded again) I had no probs...maybe the thinner disc?
I literally had smoke pouring off them even after a relatively tame drive. No fade tho!
Jim, are you still running the NQS BBK on the 312mm discs?
I have this setup and, although the pads are meant to skim the surface of the discs, that kind of heat should not build up without some pressure to push the pad on to the disc. However, if you have new pads and are running the anti-rattle shims, there is no doubt that it is a tight squeeze but should be OK unless it is a phat pad of some kind.
I fitted the RS4-2 pads a few months ago and it was tight. Not enough to force the disc to the pad but still close. For this reason, I removed my antirattle shims and just put a healthy amount of Ceratec on the piston faces. No squeel this time and I think the mm or two extra space that the shim removal created allowed the pistons to retract just that little bit more. I would give it a go.
PS Have you ever experienced brake judder with your setup?
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i have the NQSBBK with ferodo ds2500, no issues at present
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i have the NQSBBK with ferodo ds2500, no issues at present
DS2500 - isn't this primarily for track?
Do you have the shims on at all?
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i have the NQSBBK with ferodo ds2500, no issues at present
DS2500 - isn't this primarily for track?
Do you have the shims on at all?
They are considered 'fast road' pads. I had them on before my Pagids and they were fine although seemed to wear away quicker than I expected.
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i have the NQSBBK with ferodo ds2500, no issues at present
DS2500 - isn't this primarily for track?
Do you have the shims on at all?
DaveB mentioned to me that the pad compound on the DS2500s have rubber in, so on track days when the pads get hot the rubber melts away and the pads fall apart :rolleye:
his advice is Ferodos for fast road/light track, but if you're going heavy the Pagid RS4-2s.
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yup as Sub says, the DS is fine for fast road use but are no good for hardcore trackday action
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The rs4-2 were fantastic when bedded in :driver:
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Sorry guys....laptops died so on phone.
At muckipup...I am on 996 fronts over 330x28....so same width as what the caliper is designed for. Think I may try taking them out.
I am on Textar oe porker pads...squeal like a pig
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For the users of the nqsbbk:
It appears that Pagid doesn't sell the Pagid RS29 Yellow compound in the UK: http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/car-brake-pads/porsche-boxster.html
But this is sold in Germany: http://www.nimex-motorsport.de/?category=products;subID:183&sessID=q2fi40a40qr5t8scr333hfp890
So if you are after some great daily drive and track day pad look no further (not cheap though). As soon as my current Pagid RS 4-4 (second) pads need changing I will go with RS 29.
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Jim sounds like you've got a sticky piston.
The seals are square in a rhomboidal recess, sounds like the piston isn't retracting when of the pedal.
Did you use some decent assembly grease on the seals and pistons when you nut them back together
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Thanks Dave - that was a thought to be honest as I dont think I greased them on reassembly - I think I thought the fluid would lube them up :ashamed:
I have moved them in and out a few times manually - taking pads out and checking they are free, but it looks like I might take em to bits and lube them up.
could I use this Pagid Ceratec I have here now?
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Errrrrrr no, that's for binding pads to calipers and keeping them quiet.....
You need the opposite...you need a lithium based grease, brakes international are selling it on eBay at the mo.
Alternatively take the seals out clean them using a clean cloth and then immerse them in seal conditioner for 30 minutes or new clean brake fluid for 90 minutes. Lithium grease is preferable.
I'd do them all pal, or if you're local pop in to mine and we can do it while you wait
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Star man for the offer Dave but I'm a good way from you. I'm ok with doing it....just need to plan a time.to do it.
A 4 day weekend would be nice.....
.....errrr :stupid: :laugh: