MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: slide on June 21, 2012, 08:36:39 pm
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Recently fitted MK2 TT alloy hubs, lower arms and balljoints. The difference in weight compared to a standard GTi hub is quite substancial, and the lower roll centre gained by the TT hubs greatly improves handling. To enable these hubs to easily fit with standard MK5 track rod ends I have machined a sleeve (which i have many more of if anyone is interested)
overall a well worthwhile mod, and as the pictures below show the balljoints, arms and hubs also easily fit along with a big brake conversion.
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Welcome to the forum Adam. :happy2:
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Hi, and welcome. I have these fitted to mine and understand what your saying with the sleeves. However, I don't think the threads of the track rod end of into the steering rack arm far enough due to the increase in the track width. Therefore I have fit the TT track rod ends and tie arms aswell just to make sure it's safe and the threads are in far enough. :happy2:
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Hi, and welcome. I have these fitted to mine and understand what your saying with the sleeves. However, I don't think the threads of the track rod end of into the steering rack arm far enough due to the increase in the track width. Therefore I have fit the TT track rod ends and tie arms aswell just to make sure it's safe and the threads are in far enough. :happy2:
Like Shaun says, you need the TT steering arms and rod ends to make this setup safe. With the standard parts there are only a couple of threads holding the rod ends onto the steering arms. To fit the TT arms onto the stock rack you need to remove 5mm from the rack or fit the TT rack and code to suit.
I want your Ohlins please :happy2:
How come the ball joints are ontop of the wishbones with the nuts at the top?
Have you got a full pic of the car we can see :evilgrin:
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Very nice! :congrats:
How come the ball joints are ontop of the wishbones with the nuts at the top?
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yeah mines not like that either :ashamed:
thats a pretty serious brake and suspension set up there!
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With the TT hubs and mk 5 rod ends have you tried to steer left or right to full lock on?
TT rod ends are shaped to avoid the rim hitting the rod, they must be shaped like that for a reason.
Also remember to have nuts with a very large shoulder on both ball bearing and rod en on the hub, to keep the steel reinforcment in the alloy hub in place.
As the other two has said, get the proper TT solution for the steering :happy2:
And i'll second the wish for both brakes and öhlins suspension, how do you rate both? :drinking:
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Right lol. The ballpoints are ontop of the wishbones which enables the wishbones to ultimately be on a better horizontal plane when the car is on the ground due to the amount lowered. If the ballpoints were below the wishbone then the wishbones would be 'more up' ie the suspension being slightly into bump. For the reason of the balljoints being mounted above the wishbone this is why the nuts are on the top, as the wishbone is alloy and the balljoints is steel I found it best that the nut was in contact with the steel rather than letting the nuts dig into the soft alloy wishbones. The ohlins and the big brake APs are immense. There is alot more on this car, along with 3 other vehicles so if people like more pics can be shown :smiley:
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Also the standard mk5 arms do not hit the wheels (18" team dynamics) on either of the full locks. And as to finding not enough thread engagement on the track rods, from my previous wide track setup this actually gave excessive toe in when the camber was set which meant to get the correct toe on the front the track rods were wound further into the track rod end.
From previous experience as long as 15mm of thread is engaged you are ok, the track rod does not need to be fully engaged into the track rod end, hence not neccessarily needed tt track rods and track rod ends. Also the larger tt nuts used as opposed to the smaller mk5 nuts on both track rod ends and balljoints.