MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6 *TSI intercooler talk*
Post by: cal tdi on July 02, 2012, 05:05:21 pm
Anyone had anyone had some hands on experience with these yet?
Getting one for mine in the next month and was wondering what they were like. saw some at inters and they look a top bit of kit and well finished with the aluminium heat shield and 'stage 2' pipe.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: mkviken on July 02, 2012, 08:26:03 pm
I've been considering this for my mk6 for a while now

i will be very interested to see what you think of it.

is your car standard or mapped?
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 02, 2012, 09:06:59 pm
its not cheap but i dont think its quality can't be questioned. It uses OEM mounting points and fits in the bay really well.

Stage 1 revo map atm and going to stage 2 along with this induction kit and milly tbe  :party: aiming to tip it over 300brake and better the 348lb/ft its at currently
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: mkviken on July 03, 2012, 11:21:34 am
I'm at stage 1 with miltek cat back

will most probably get a down pipe when i can be arsed.

i had an ITG intake but didn't like the sounds it made so removed it. it made more power though.

i will be interested to see what this piper cross one sounds like as its big factor in which intake i will fit.

Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: E30Dom on July 03, 2012, 01:52:39 pm

Stage 1 revo map atm and going to stage 2 along with this induction kit and milly tbe  :party: 348lb/ft its at currently

What magic dyno is that on!?
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 03, 2012, 02:04:36 pm
Dyno dynamics @ corton miller, lincolnshire  :innocent:
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: gazon69 on July 03, 2012, 03:34:35 pm
Do you have the print out fella. I wouldn't mind seeing this.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 03, 2012, 03:55:08 pm
I do. I'll have to get some pics uploaded but I'm usually very poor at getting round to doing this so don't hold your breath.

This is on a mk6 btw which run a higher pressure fuel pump over the tfsi and a similar intercooler to the s3 but plastic end tanks rather than alloy
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: AndyS on July 03, 2012, 04:23:56 pm
Hope this don,t end up in a figure shouting match.. 

My GTI with performance air filter , Miltek , and stage 1 hit 265bhp,, perhapes a little high, but it goes well  :jumping:

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 03, 2012, 04:38:30 pm
Hope this don,t end up in a figure shouting match.. 

My GTI with performance air filter , Miltek , and stage 1 hit 265bhp,, perhapes a little high, but it goes well  :jumping:

 I couldn't agree more andy. I'd be happy if my 'dyno readout' said 2bhp so long as it scares me out on the road
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: Hedge on July 03, 2012, 04:49:02 pm
This is on a mk6 btw which run a higher pressure fuel pump over the tfsi and a similar intercooler to the s3 but plastic end tanks rather than alloy

 :confused:
Don't think so unless you've changed it.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: jon-tfsi on July 03, 2012, 06:49:57 pm
The Mk6 GTI has the same IC as later spec S3's Im told.

Awesome GTI sell the Pipercross filter . . . its not cheap. The stage 2 pipe seems not such a good design as others also. It appears to have a step down in diameter well before the turbo. Maybe they did this for  a reason but the APR stg 2 pipe just looks a better design to me.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: mkviken on July 03, 2012, 06:53:56 pm
yeah but it has a silicon reducer instead.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 24, 2012, 01:27:19 pm
Got the intake all in and fitted and... It's a beauty

Quality is really good with the genuine samco hose and aluminium pipe for the last section. All fitting well to the stock mounting points. But for the money you'd expect nothing less.

As for noise iv done approx. 50miles since it was fitted yesterday and can honestly only say I've heard induction noise 3-4 times when I was listening out for it which is suprising considering the size of it. Might have had something to do with the sound coming from the milltek though  :laugh:
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: vRS Carl on July 24, 2012, 01:37:44 pm
The Mk6 GTI has the same IC as later spec S3's

Having swapped mine for an S3 cooler I can tell you it's not.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: cal tdi on July 24, 2012, 01:48:47 pm
It's certainly a different/better spec than the older tfsi item then. If not a match to the s3
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: vRS Carl on July 24, 2012, 02:45:38 pm
It's certainly a different/better spec than the older tfsi item then. If not a match to the s3

I swapped the cooler for S3 on both my TFSi and TSi and they are pretty much the same intercooler from what I could see. Certainly same thickness (or very similar) cores.

The S3 is thicker by some margin. 20mm springs to mind but I would have to measure it.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: jon-tfsi on July 25, 2012, 09:51:26 pm
The Mk6 GTI has the same IC as later spec S3's

Having swapped mine for an S3 cooler I can tell you it's not.

The UK Mk6 Golf GTI has the same IC as the GOLF R and later spec S3.
In other continents it does not.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: vRS Carl on July 25, 2012, 10:02:09 pm
My 2011 vRS, which has the same engine, had a different cooler :confused:
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: jon-tfsi on July 25, 2012, 10:08:23 pm
Maybe this is why the Golf is £4K more ?? :signLOL:

Just done a quick google search and its deffo not on the US spec MK6. I wish i knew how to add a link as i have found a great quote by "Bruce" stating the s3 cooler with plastic end tanks is actually more efficient than the alloy one !!
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: vRS Carl on July 25, 2012, 10:26:18 pm
Maybe this is why the Golf is £4K more ?? :signLOL:

Just done a quick google search and its deffo not on the US spec MK6. I wish i knew how to add a link as i have found a great quote by "Bruce" stating the s3 cooler with plastic end tanks is actually more efficient than the alloy one !!

Cheeky fecker, they have the same cooler  :P

Don't start that debate again ffs  :rolleye:
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6
Post by: jon-tfsi on July 25, 2012, 10:31:34 pm
  :signLOL:Just to add fuel to the fire this is a copy and paste of Bruce's post on a US forum:

The Mk.VI Golf R FMIC with plastic endtanks is even more efficient than the old full alloy S3 FMIC.
Hard to believe but true. I was told by a mate working at Volkswagen in Wolfsburg where they did all
the testings. It's not only material and dimensions. The newer one has a better internal shape.



Quote:
Originally Posted by TSiUG 
what? i swear they are identical....

Current Golf R, S3 and Mk.VI GTI are identical. The former Mk.V GTI FMIC was thinner and less efficient.
Title: Re: New pipercross/revo intake for the mk6 *TSI intercooler talk*
Post by: cal tdi on July 26, 2012, 09:41:00 am
Awesome!!

Nice to know. Probably goes someway to explaining why stage 2 on a ko3 TSI is rather impressive. Mine dyno'd on Monday at over 300