MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: JStav on September 19, 2012, 11:13:26 am
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I took the car to PDT/Sedox Performance in Sunderland at the weekend to get stage 1 done :party: I dealt mainly with Dave there but the other guys there seemed just as knowledgeable and enthusiastic :pomppomp: The car was checked over first to ensure all was correct and had her on the dyno. She ran 160bhp as standard :confused: After closer inspection it turned out the diverter valve was split and Dave managed to get me one right there and then at a fantastic price.
The MAF was on it's way out and PDT happened to be able to get one from a dead Seat Leon parked in the front which was going to for an engine replacement. They gave me this for absolutely nothing :drinking:
After a few dyno runs with the software uploaded the car came back at 220 which Dave certainly wasn't happy with. He kept trying to make adjustments and finally landed on 226 which again he still wasn't happy with.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fj102%2Fstav2006uk%2FFirstDyno.jpg&hash=75d99235b118e72b5c3413838b3b80848c89e9a4)
As you can see towards the end of the curve the power falls away and a boost leak was suspected. As it was getting on and they had other appointments Dave offered for me to bring it back and he'd take a good look and run it on the dyno again. So I went back today and it was up on the ramp and the pipe in question was dealt with! (turbo to intercooler pipe on drivers side). Back on the dyno and we got the improvement we were looking for.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fj102%2Fstav2006uk%2FFinalDyno.jpg&hash=2834f40a37f5b3cae58b63be446ed5327793cac8)
Finished on 238bhp with it and it would obviously have been higher if my car had made 197bhp to begin with and not 191. More than happy with the performance of the car, she pulls like a train through all the gears and it brings a smile to my face when I plant my right foot! :jumping: Really happy with the revo software and it was everything I hoped it would be. The power is instantly there whenever you need it.
Just want to say a huge thanks to Dave as well as the whole of PDT/Sedox as their service has been impeccable. I went back fully expecting to pay for Dave's time to fix the boost leak as well as the dyno run (and quite rightly so), however they refused to take any money and said they just wanted the car to be running healthy and to the performance levels it should be. These guy's really are brilliant and it's clear they not only know their stuff, but they have passion for the work they carry out. Can't recommend them highly enough. If anyone is looking for someone in this area for a remap and/or wants some questions answered then these guys are the ones to to talk to!
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:congrats: you can't beat abit of Dave action. Made a couple of 300mile trips to have Dave work on the car, and won't hesitate next time something needs doing!
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Thanks lads :star:
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As said before mine only went to Dave for just a map...
21 months later I'm still on the slippery slope, so beware the visit to PDT for just a remap.
Mine's been there a few times for more modding..
Glad you had fun and no doubt enjoyed the drive home however far it was.
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I did say you were better off making the trip to PDT :wink:
If you had gone the other Revo dealer and didnt get it dynod, you probably would never have known about the diverter valve/MAF/boost leak
Think it might have been my car on the lifter when you turned up the other day
Hopefully PDT fixed my oil leak on tuesday aswell :happy2:
Nice result all the same :drinking:
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As said before mine only went to Dave for just a map...
21 months later I'm still on the slippery slope, so beware the visit to PDT for just a remap.
Mine's been there a few times for more modding..
Glad you had fun and no doubt enjoyed the drive home however far it was.
I already have the feeling I'm going to see a lot more of the place! Will be going to stage 2+ I think :jumping: It was about 25-30 miles back to Teesside but it felt like I got home quicker anyway! Amazingly with better fuel economy too! The car feels like a motorway/A-road destroyer. Putting your foot down even in 6th gear and the car just seems to take off effortlessly.
I did say you were better off making the trip to PDT :wink:
If you had gone the other Revo dealer and didnt get it dynod, you probably would never have known about the diverter valve/MAF/boost leak
Think it might have been my car on the lifter when you turned up the other day
Hopefully PDT fixed my oil leak on tuesday aswell :happy2:
Nice result all the same :drinking:
You did indeed and it was brilliant advice so thanks for that! This is exactly what I was talking about to Dave and another guy there (not sure of his name?). I would have gone away none the wiser as I'm certainly no mechanic and plus I've never driven another GTI so had nothing to compare against!
Was yours the candy white? I said to Dave it was very very nice but unfortunately a good one appears to be like rocking horse do-do to find (I did originally want one until mine came up at a good price!)
Already thinking of the next mods...definitely a slippery slope :evilgrin:
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Hope your oil leak is fixed Dom
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For all you who are thinking of getting a remap on your pride & joy, BEWARE. Did a lot of research on this remapping lark & it is a mind field anybody can set up & call themselves any expert. Anyway I decided to go with SEDOX performance in sunderland (or formally know as Vsport and PDtuning) wonderful glossy web site good reviews, plenty of bragging of what they can do, bla bla bla, So decide to go with them, yes they where 200 miles away but they’d do a good job wouldn’t they?? Had a golf 170 tdi & audi A6 2.5 tdi to take, golf was a no runner cos the DPF was blocked & had shut down, Trailered the golf down behind the Audi. Would get Audi remapped & management light was on cos I removed the egr valve. Got the work all done in a day DPF removed & a remap on golf, it was running hura hura, The audi was remapped & light out, but needed MAF ( which they done for me) & N75 valve which I did when got home, Anyway it all seemed fine, paid £1074 and headed home, on the way home management light comes on ( the audi that is as golfie’s having a ride home ) and stays on. The golf’s DPF light comes on a few days later also quite a aggressive power band with lot’s of (not a bit) black smoke under acceleration. Some emails later David from sedox suggested I take them to my local garage for diagnostics (DM performance cars pulford) could not find anything wrong & said the light should not come on as it has been mapped out. Back to David & this was his reply—
If there is a light on, there will be a fault code. The light is never 'mapped out', infact anyone that suggests that any diagnostic processes should be mapped out simply doesn't understand the process. Did they check the live data and reset all of the ECU adaptions? We're they using genuine VCDS or VAS diagnostic equipment, or a generic fault code tool?
At this stage I thought ‘this guy is full of carbon’ & I am not getting anywhere, If I took the cars back there all that way to get sorted, is he going to do another sh*t job? Back to square one. So back to dm performance, he says have you tried simon at ecotec at buckey just 6 mile away? No never heard of them, They do DPF removal & remapping he said. F**KING HELL. After coming down from the sealing I paid him a visit told him the story & he like me thought sedox where good, but would look at the golf first to see what was what. Simon phoned me up later saying he could not believe the car has been remapped this way terrible job, also they had wiped the codes so going to have diagnostic checks was a waist of time as there was nothing to read and they will have known this. Simon phoned sedox to try & make sense of his remap, But in the end Simon sourced a standard VW golf file started from scratch, remapped it and sorted all the issues, (no problems with sensors etc) and running much smoother now, no lights coming on, also sorted the audi as well, Many thanks to you Simon as you are down to earth, not full of sh*t & know your stuff. As for David Appleby of sedox you are one of the sharks and will No doubt will have a clever explanation for this, but the net is moving in.
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
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For all you who are thinking of getting a remap on your pride & joy, BEWARE. Did a lot of research on this remapping lark & it is a mind field anybody can set up & call themselves any expert. Anyway I decided to go with SEDOX performance in sunderland (or formally know as Vsport and PDtuning) wonderful glossy web site good reviews, plenty of bragging of what they can do, bla bla bla, So decide to go with them, yes they where 200 miles away but they’d do a good job wouldn’t they?? Had a golf 170 tdi & audi A6 2.5 tdi to take, golf was a no runner cos the DPF was blocked & had shut down, Trailered the golf down behind the Audi. Would get Audi remapped & management light was on cos I removed the egr valve. Got the work all done in a day DPF removed & a remap on golf, it was running hura hura, The audi was remapped & light out, but needed MAF ( which they done for me) & N75 valve which I did when got home, Anyway it all seemed fine, paid £1074 and headed home, on the way home management light comes on ( the audi that is as golfie’s having a ride home ) and stays on. The golf’s DPF light comes on a few days later also quite a aggressive power band with lot’s of (not a bit) black smoke under acceleration. Some emails later David from sedox suggested I take them to my local garage for diagnostics (DM performance cars pulford) could not find anything wrong & said the light should not come on as it has been mapped out. Back to David & this was his reply—
If there is a light on, there will be a fault code. The light is never 'mapped out', infact anyone that suggests that any diagnostic processes should be mapped out simply doesn't understand the process. Did they check the live data and reset all of the ECU adaptions? We're they using genuine VCDS or VAS diagnostic equipment, or a generic fault code tool?
At this stage I thought ‘this guy is full of carbon’ & I am not getting anywhere, If I took the cars back there all that way to get sorted, is he going to do another sh*t job? Back to square one. So back to dm performance, he says have you tried simon at ecotec at buckey just 6 mile away? No never heard of them, They do DPF removal & remapping he said. F**KING HELL. After coming down from the sealing I paid him a visit told him the story & he like me thought sedox where good, but would look at the golf first to see what was what. Simon phoned me up later saying he could not believe the car has been remapped this way terrible job, also they had wiped the codes so going to have diagnostic checks was a waist of time as there was nothing to read and they will have known this. Simon phoned sedox to try & make sense of his remap, But in the end Simon sourced a standard VW golf file started from scratch, remapped it and sorted all the issues, (no problems with sensors etc) and running much smoother now, no lights coming on, also sorted the audi as well, Many thanks to you Simon as you are down to earth, not full of sh*t & know your stuff. As for David Appleby of sedox you are one of the sharks and will No doubt will have a clever explanation for this, but the net is moving in.
This seems a massively one sided argument..after reading it a couple of times I'm still not sure what dash/fault lights were on or not pre/during/post the remap work. It's clearly a rant from a hacked off Audi/VW owner.
To me it looks as though both cars were not exactly in tip top health before a map was installed.
The golf was trailered there !!
I'm sure PDT will comment if the original post requires a comment.
But can only comment that I thought long and hard about where to get my Ed30 mapped and the Revo software installed by Dave has been spot on.
And in terms of PDT/Sedox own remaps my father in law had his Civic tdci done there..no issues at all in well over two years.
Either way if the original poster ever returns to read this..hope you get it sorted.
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"I brought 2 broken cars to Dave and got him to map them both then left"
:grin: I see no problems here.
IMO and from my experience when you car is broken, stay local. Without driving around and using the car daily you'll never know if its fixed yet.
Never increase power on a car you know isn't running right!
Oh and joining a forum just to make a post about a bad experience isn't a great idea.
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"I brought 2 broken cars to Dave and got him to map them both then left"
:grin: I see no problems here.
IMO and from my experience when you car is broken, stay local. Without driving around and using the car daily you'll never know if its fixed yet.
Never increase power on a car you know isn't running right!
Oh and joining a forum just to make a post about a bad experience isn't a great idea.
Thats a bit unfair, if the car isnt running right it shouldnt have been mapped by the mapper. Was the problem identified and rectified before the map was installed, I dont know? Before we all jump to conclusions we need to hear from the mapper so we can all make an informed decision :)
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There is a few more posts to this now I have read on seat cupra..The map was supposed to be a sedox map on the cars but the company has no knowledge of maps requested for the cars
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There is a few more posts to this now I have read on seat cupra..The map was supposed to be a sedox map on the cars but the company has no knowledge of maps requested for the cars
That sounds like a whole can of worms Andy?
Got the link to the Cupra forum?
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
Would that be me??
I'm pleased there's more people finding out about the pure lack of ability to map these diesel cars.
Sedox performance totally ruined my Golf and like the post above it cost me to fix it.
Well done Sedox another quality map. NOT
Lots more of these stories appearing which won't alter his fan boys opinion.
I respect the opinions of people who have used and still running Sedox software but these people who big them up and aren't even running their software sums the job up.
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One of the GTB2260VK guys who own's a PD170 has about 15 different maps from various companies saved on his computer when you look into them all they are all altered versions of eachother written by 1-2 people and sold on.
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There is a few more posts to this now I have read on seat cupra..The map was supposed to be a sedox map on the cars but the company has no knowledge of maps requested for the cars
That sounds like a whole can of worms Andy?
Got the link to the Cupra forum?
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=360607&highlight=sedox
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Well that's quite a read :grin:
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Best things come to those who wait.
It's just taken a little longer than I thought :happy2:
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
Would that be me??
I'm pleased there's more people finding out about the pure lack of ability to map these diesel cars.
Sedox performance totally ruined my Golf and like the post above it cost me to fix it.
Well done Sedox another quality map. NOT
Lots more of these stories appearing which won't alter his fan boys opinion.
I respect the opinions of people who have used and still running Sedox software but these people who big them up and aren't even running their software sums the job up.
Get over yourself mate.
Look at yourself ranting away months after the "problems" (which were not at any point PROVEN to be the map software, if you remember none of us really took yoru word for it)) and still are mugging them off in every post you make by putting "TERRIBLE SEDOX SOFTWARE" in your signature.
Regarding customising stock remaps that's just how it works
You take a flash map onto an ECU and tweak it as necessary. Not a sign of a fraud or anything dodgy.
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I've not had my £384 worth yet.
You'll be the person with all the experience then.
I'm assuming your running Sedox performance software????
As for not proven I'm still waiting on the engineers report from Sedox which I requested 4 months ago.
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There is a few more posts to this now I have read on seat cupra..The map was supposed to be a sedox map on the cars but the company has no knowledge of maps requested for the cars
That sounds like a whole can of worms Andy?
Got the link to the Cupra forum?
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=360607&highlight=sedox
Cheers Andy.
It is indeed quite a read from Cupra.net.
Was pondering a map on our CR170 A4..but this has certainly put a different slant on things for me.
See if Dave comments on here sometime?
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I've not had my £384 worth yet.
You'll be the person with all the experience then.
I'm assuming your running Sedox performance software????
As for not proven I'm still waiting on the engineers report from Sedox which I requested 4 months ago.
This is nothing to do with whether a product is "worth" the money or not
I've already proven my knowledge of diesel tuning as you read in the last thread (which all went over your head). I have not seen the maps of either your car with the Revo or your car with the Sedox map.
This is nothing to do with price or value or quality. It's to do with your attitude. Two forums I've looked at and two signatures moaning constantly about something which has been and gone.
I know myself about holding grudges (eg with my bodyshop) but I wouldn't ever think to have "VW GOLF GTI WITH A REALLY BADLY RESPRAYED BONNET FROM RIDGEWAY VW" because that would just make me look like a child.
If I was Sedox I wouldn't even talk to you let alone send you logs, surprised you have enough time between whining on the internet about a map you don't have anymore. I'd probably be speaking to my solicitors to send papers out for slander.
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That's your opinion mate and was my money so I'll decide.
I had let this go but after reading this latest scenario it just brings it all back.
Oh and I have a fantastic solicitor who is well aware of what's happened and been said.
I've just altered my signature slightly to cheers you up.
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:signLOL:
Let it go? You've had the signature for the last 6 months!
I'll leave you to it mate. Have a good evening :grin: :grin:
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:signLOL:
Let it go? You've had the signature for the last 6 months!
I'll leave you to it mate. Have a good evening :grin: :grin:
I may do that.
I've moved on and bought another car now.
Enjoy your weekend.
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
Would that be me??
I'm pleased there's more people finding out about the pure lack of ability to map these diesel cars.
Sedox performance totally ruined my Golf and like the post above it cost me to fix it.
Well done Sedox another quality map. NOT
Lots more of these stories appearing which won't alter his fan boys opinion.
I respect the opinions of people who have used and still running Sedox software but these people who big them up and aren't even running their software sums the job up.
Erm I was thinking about the Tiguan owner that slated "MoreBHP" after his engine failed. The tuner then proved the engine had problems due to oil starvation IIRC.
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Erm I was thinking about the Tiguan owner that slated "MoreBHP" after his engine failed. The tuner then proved the engine had problems due to oil starvation IIRC.
That's okay mate half of the people who get remaps have no idea about how their engines work anyway :signLOL: :signLOL: :popcornsoda:
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Erm I was thinking about the Tiguan owner that slated "MoreBHP" after his engine failed. The tuner then proved the engine had problems due to oil starvation IIRC.
That's okay mate half of the people who get remaps have no idea about how their engines work anyway :signLOL: :signLOL: :popcornsoda:
Remaps have become so mainstream now, everyone has heard about how you can plug in a computer and suddenly give a car another 35% more power. Doesn't help that every garage offers some sort of remap these days.
Pretty sure Kwik Fit will be "tuning" cars soon. . :grin:
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Erm I was thinking about the Tiguan owner that slated "MoreBHP" after his engine failed. The tuner then proved the engine had problems due to oil starvation IIRC.
That's okay mate half of the people who get remaps have no idea about how their engines work anyway :signLOL: :signLOL: :popcornsoda:
Remaps have become so mainstream now, everyone has heard about how you can plug in a computer and suddenly give a car another 35% more power. Doesn't help that every garage offers some sort of remap these days.
Pretty sure Kwik Fit will be "tuning" cars soon. . :grin:
Or even change tyres with out catchin your rims
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
Would that be me??
I'm pleased there's more people finding out about the pure lack of ability to map these diesel cars.
Sedox performance totally ruined my Golf and like the post above it cost me to fix it.
Well done Sedox another quality map. NOT
Lots more of these stories appearing which won't alter his fan boys opinion.
I respect the opinions of people who have used and still running Sedox software but these people who big them up and aren't even running their software sums the job up.
Erm I was thinking about the Tiguan owner that slated "MoreBHP" after his engine failed. The tuner then proved the engine had problems due to oil starvation IIRC.
Sorry mate
I must be touchy today, I automatically assumed you were having a dig.
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Just to finish this off.
I've had my reply from Sedox performance HQ
Which says that 100% my software was not genuine Sedox performance software as that dealer did not request any software for a Golf GTD CR170 during the whole month of March!!!!
Funny when 2 gtd's were done on the day I was there.
Something very fishy going on here.
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Just to finish this off.
I've had my reply from Sedox performance HQ
Which says that 100% my software was not genuine Sedox performance software as that dealer did not request any software for a Golf GTD CR170 during the whole month of March!!!!
Funny when 2 gtd's were done on the day I was there.
Something very fishy going on here.
Its not surprising really. If they were to sell you genuine Sedox software they will have to share the profit with Sedox as the software provider, however if they charge the same and just load up thweir own bodged software themselves they get to keep all the profit!
I read on SCN a couple years back of guys going to AMDEssex for REVO software then finding out a year or so later that they had in fact had AMD software loaded on!!
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I remember the story of the last guy who randomly appeared on this forum, made one post slating a tuner. . . .
Got to be a first time to join for everybody. Slating a tuner? thought i was just warning people
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For all you who are thinking of getting a remap on your pride & joy, BEWARE. Did a lot of research on this remapping lark & it is a mind field anybody can set up & call themselves any expert. Anyway I decided to go with SEDOX performance in sunderland (or formally know as Vsport and PDtuning) wonderful glossy web site good reviews, plenty of bragging of what they can do, bla bla bla, So decide to go with them, yes they where 200 miles away but they’d do a good job wouldn’t they?? Had a golf 170 tdi & audi A6 2.5 tdi to take, golf was a no runner cos the DPF was blocked & had shut down, Trailered the golf down behind the Audi. Would get Audi remapped & management light was on cos I removed the egr valve. Got the work all done in a day DPF removed & a remap on golf, it was running hura hura, The audi was remapped & light out, but needed MAF ( which they done for me) & N75 valve which I did when got home, Anyway it all seemed fine, paid £1074 and headed home, on the way home management light comes on ( the audi that is as golfie’s having a ride home ) and stays on. The golf’s DPF light comes on a few days later also quite a aggressive power band with lot’s of (not a bit) black smoke under acceleration. Some emails later David from sedox suggested I take them to my local garage for diagnostics (DM performance cars pulford) could not find anything wrong & said the light should not come on as it has been mapped out. Back to David & this was his reply—
If there is a light on, there will be a fault code. The light is never 'mapped out', infact anyone that suggests that any diagnostic processes should be mapped out simply doesn't understand the process. Did they check the live data and reset all of the ECU adaptions? We're they using genuine VCDS or VAS diagnostic equipment, or a generic fault code tool?
At this stage I thought ‘this guy is full of carbon’ & I am not getting anywhere, If I took the cars back there all that way to get sorted, is he going to do another sh*t job? Back to square one. So back to dm performance, he says have you tried simon at ecotec at buckey just 6 mile away? No never heard of them, They do DPF removal & remapping he said. F**KING HELL. After coming down from the sealing I paid him a visit told him the story & he like me thought sedox where good, but would look at the golf first to see what was what. Simon phoned me up later saying he could not believe the car has been remapped this way terrible job, also they had wiped the codes so going to have diagnostic checks was a waist of time as there was nothing to read and they will have known this. Simon phoned sedox to try & make sense of his remap, But in the end Simon sourced a standard VW golf file started from scratch, remapped it and sorted all the issues, (no problems with sensors etc) and running much smoother now, no lights coming on, also sorted the audi as well, Many thanks to you Simon as you are down to earth, not full of sh*t & know your stuff. As for David Appleby of sedox you are one of the sharks and will No doubt will have a clever explanation for this, but the net is moving in.
This seems a massively one sided argument..after reading it a couple of times I'm still not sure what dash/fault lights were on or not pre/during/post the remap work. It's clearly a rant from a hacked off Audi/VW owner.
To me it looks as though both cars were not exactly in tip top health before a map was installed.
The golf was trailered there !!
I'm sure PDT will comment if the original post requires a comment.
But can only comment that I thought long and hard about where to get my Ed30 mapped and the Revo software installed by Dave has been spot on.
And in terms of PDT/Sedox own remaps my father in law had his Civic tdci done there..no issues at all in well over two years.
Either way if the original poster ever returns to read this..hope you get it sorted.
The Audi's engine management light was permanently on because i removed to egr valve, been like that for months but still ran like a dream, just wanted it turned off. The golf only does short journeys so blocked DPF up, a re gen didn't work, so management system shut it down, no big deal, apart from that the golf WAS in good order ( 46,000 miles). All i can say is when Ecotech looked at the cars me, he came out to garage shaking his head, nuff said.
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"I brought 2 broken cars to Dave and got him to map them both then left"
:grin: I see no problems here.
IMO and from my experience when you car is broken, stay local. Without driving around and using the car daily you'll never know if its fixed yet.
Never increase power on a car you know isn't running right!
Oh and joining a forum just to make a post about a bad experience isn't a great idea.
No, still here, Not just a one hit wonder, joined because got a Golf Mk 5 & had a bad experience, what should i have done, kept my mouth shut??
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Your story would have held more water if you had introduced yourself to us all, and made a few posts. There's a lot of dodgy folk on here so I tend to take what most people say with a pinch of salt. Your an unknown quantity, you have joined to slag of a tuner and not really knowing you it's difficult to believe what you have said, particularly as the story itself was difficult to comprehend :confused:
Fair enough if you are genuinely just trying to warn people :innocent:
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No, still here, Not just a one hit wonder, joined because got a Golf Mk 5 & had a bad experience, what should i have done, kept my mouth shut??
If all you did was join to post up and moan, yes?
:P :signLOL:
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Just to finish this off.
I've had my reply from Sedox performance HQ
Which says that 100% my software was not genuine Sedox performance software as that dealer did not request any software for a Golf GTD CR170 during the whole month of March!!!!
Funny when 2 gtd's were done on the day I was there.
Something very fishy going on here.
Its not surprising really. If they were to sell you genuine Sedox software they will have to share the profit with Sedox as the software provider, however if they charge the same and just load up thweir own bodged software themselves they get to keep all the profit!
I read on SCN a couple years back of guys going to AMDEssex for REVO software then finding out a year or so later that they had in fact had AMD software loaded on!!
Ive heard the same
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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Doesn't surprise me as far as AMD are concerned!
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http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=360607
Sedox HQ have now got involved
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Very interesting.
Must say.... It's gone awfully quiet around here with regards Dave from PDT.
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With the posts on Seat cupra about Dave not using a sedox map and using his own but charging and telling the customer its a Sedox one is shocking..
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Very interesting.
Must say.... It's gone awfully quiet around here with regards Dave from PDT.
Indeed Rich,
You would think there might be some comment from them at least.
Especially if there were perhaps explanations to give for this 5h1t storm across two forums.
Perhaps there are none to give I guess.
As said before my Ed30 was Revo'd by Dave at PDT three years back.
I went there because it was very local to me/ I had read good forum recommends and also Dave had his Ed30 at that time so reasoned he knew what he was doing. Was always/still very happy and had no issues.
However that was done when they operated out of a much smaller unit in Boldon.
Once they moved to Sunderland and appeared (almost at the same time) to morph into being called 'Sedox' rather than PDT the service/customer care changed to my eyes. I guess increased overheads meant more cars needed to be processed etc.
To be truthful even when asking Dave or Mark what the PDT/Sedox hook up was I never fully understood what the differences were. And only by reading the Cupra.net link I'm now aware that Sedox are a software tuner outside the UK.
Whether this will all get resolved to the satisfaction of the guys who have had their diesels mapped with issues who knows. But rightly or wrongly forum chat like this thread does get people thinking..and of course 5h1t sticks.
I doubt it will happen but an explanation and refund to users with issues would go a long way to salvaging what's remaining of Dave's tuning 'name' and reputation.
If two or three cars have been 'cocked up' with non genuine maps just hold your hands up and get them sorted.
Customer care and wanting a happy customer counts a lot in my book.
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http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=360607
Sedox HQ have now got involved
So this pazzywazzy guy has just joined SCN as well, but just remember, he hasnt joined just to go tuner slating......
On another note, doesnt look good from PDT.Sedox UK and someone has been logging on and emailing SCN from a sedox email address that isnt genuine!! Never boring on SCN lol
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That's the thing the OP is the guy who is going around slating them... but now "Sedox UK" have admitted thats its not fully genuine sedox software they are selling so its opened a right can of worms.
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My software wasn't genuine either.
It's just taken months to come out that's all.
I'm pleased PazzyWazzy pushed this to the level he did because it has proved the descrepences that I had.
If Sedox Sunderland had done the right thing and refunded my £384 and PazzyWazzys money none of this would have came out,
After all is said and done its still very disappointing.
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Nice if Sedox gave you a refund
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It would be nice and go some way to repair things.
Would probably help to salvage some of their reputatation too.
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It would be nice and go some way to repair things.
Would probably help to salvage some of their reputatation too.
Maybe then you'd remove it from your signature!! :popcornsoda:
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if you had been stung by a company though would you not want to warn others?
I got stung by JBS i warn every person possible
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:popcornsoda:
Dave PDT? Hello??
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I almost done a deal to have the software and a tool to install the map done with Dave a little while ago as i live in Ireland but decided i dont want generic mapping ....400 notes almost pissed on the wall....seemed very genuine and informative in my emails but i guess you never know.
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I'm probably going to sound like a dingbat here but whats the issue here? Reason I ask is I've recently bought an Edition30 thats running a Revo Stage2+ map and I believe it was Sedox Sunderland that carried it out the map not long before me buying it, a couple of weeks before If i remember right. Is there an issue with their maps or their mapping and should I have it RR'd ASAP? :confused:
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I'm probably going to sound like a dingbat here but whats the issue here? Reason I ask is I've recently bought an Edition30 thats running a Revo Stage2+ map and I believe it was Sedox Sunderland that carried it out the map not long before me buying it, a couple of weeks before If i remember right. Is there an issue with their maps or their mapping and should I have it RR'd ASAP? :confused:
Buy a REVO SPS switch... youll soon find out if you are running REVO. (or ring REVO direct and give them your reg/chassis number)
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I'm probably going to sound like a dingbat here but whats the issue here? Reason I ask is I've recently bought an Edition30 thats running a Revo Stage2+ map and I believe it was Sedox Sunderland that carried it out the map not long before me buying it, a couple of weeks before If i remember right. Is there an issue with their maps or their mapping and should I have it RR'd ASAP? :confused:
Buy a REVO SPS switch... youll soon find out if you are running REVO. (or ring REVO direct and give them your reg/chassis number)
I have the Select plus SPS. I don't know any of the settings though.
Think a call to Revo is due.
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I'm probably going to sound like a dingbat here but whats the issue here? Reason I ask is I've recently bought an Edition30 thats running a Revo Stage2+ map and I believe it was Sedox Sunderland that carried it out the map not long before me buying it, a couple of weeks before If i remember right. Is there an issue with their maps or their mapping and should I have it RR'd ASAP? :confused:
Buy a REVO SPS switch... youll soon find out if you are running REVO. (or ring REVO direct and give them your reg/chassis number)
I have the Select plus SPS. I don't know any of the settings though.
Think a call to Revo is due.
Revo will only have the chassis number details if PDT have send a log file since the map was loaded to the car.
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If SPS don't work its not Revo
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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If SPS don't work its not Revo
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
there are different SPS switches so that not entirely true
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If you have any doubt, ask them?
If you live in the north east, I'll plug my laptop in with the Revo software and sps device and it can read what settings it's on, simple.
There's nothing wrong with PDT, just a couple of people out of thousands that have had there car done there that have had a bad experience.
They've always been more than helpful with me.
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If you have any doubt, ask them?
If you live in the north east, I'll plug my laptop in with the Revo software and sps device and it can read what settings it's on, simple.
There's nothing wrong with PDT, just a couple of people out of thousands that have had there car done there that have had a bad experience.
They've always been more than helpful with me.
They were helpful with me too, but i was running REVO at the time and went for help not for a map.
The main concern isn't a "bad experience" its that the software supplied isn't in fact genuine and is just a copy or tweak of previous software or Dave's's own map.
The evidence is quite compelling to lead you to believe that Dave may have mapped peoples cars and not been to honest about where the map was from.
I, like you, are torn between what seemed to me like a sound knowledgeable guy and the posts i have read.
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If Sedox provide a map that asks for X fuel at X boost and then on the car it actually turns out that X + 50mbar of boost would work better with X - 1 degree of injector duration then you would put that on, would you not?? :stupid:
And ergo, that then means that the map you have got is no longer "original"... ? :confused:
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If Sedox provide a map that asks for X fuel at X boost and then on the car it actually turns out that X + 50mbar of boost would work better with X - 1 degree of injector duration then you would put that on, would you not?? :stupid:
And ergo, that then means that the map you have got is no longer "original"... ? :confused:
Don't follow
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Think hes going off an earlier thread whereby the bloke thought he was getting a sedox performance remap ( European company - never heard of them), but instead he used a remap that he wrote himself instead (which I guess is a PDTuning remap).
Either way, I think there is a big difference with selling someone a Revo remap and a PDTuning remap. A Sedox/Pdtuning remap would cost ~£300, and revo would be twice that, theres no way on this earth they would do that to anyone!
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If Sedox provide a map that asks for X fuel at X boost and then on the car it actually turns out that X + 50mbar of boost would work better with X - 1 degree of injector duration then you would put that on, would you not?? :stupid:
And ergo, that then means that the map you have got is no longer "original"... ? :confused:
Don't follow
People who are moaning about the map not being original.
When Sedox would state that any changes made are therefore making it non original.
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just read through this and surprised PDtuning haven't replied. Surely they need to protect their reputation unless
there is a phoenix on the horizon
Used to sell REVO, or so they said :signLOL: