MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: scottm72 on September 25, 2012, 12:16:45 am
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hi guys, just bought my car and i like the monza 18 alloys but i need new tyres, the mk6 monzas which i beleive are the shadow 2 with the dark colour around the circular bit look nice,,,, do you think the mark 5 gti looks better with the normal monzas which are all the same colour finish or should i upgrade to the dark ones, seen them for around £340 brand new but replicas obviouslly.
the ones i have are brand new when i bought the car as the old ones where curbed etc and dealer said the diff in price for refurbing them was not that much dif than him putting new ones on so thats what he did to my delight but cant get these darker ones out of my mind.
because i have to buy new tyres i can get a deal on the new alloys if bought with tyres so may only cost me around £300 for a new set then i will just sell the ones that come off so that is the way i am thinking,,,,, do they look better ??? if anyone has any pics of the mk5 with both kinds of wheels on them i would appreciate it, also are the wheels i have easier to keep than the shadows with regards to stone chips, scuffing durability etc.
thanks guys
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Hi there just read your post here is a few pics of mine before and after new wheels (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F12%2F09%2F25%2Fve6ahu2a.jpg&hash=0d76ce84aff999188c6c179901c822e5403b35fd)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F12%2F09%2F25%2Furany3en.jpg&hash=2ccef1210a68298301c03bf4f1a3f0a1380371bc)
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hi there thanks for my first ever reply,,,,,
yeah your new wheels look better than the old, dont like the gti with dark wheels for some reason makes the car look like something other than a golf gti in my eyes, your new ones look cool though, noticed the ones i have are replicas but to be honest after reading some feedback on replicas there doesnt seem to be any real difference as long as they come from a good shop of which mine did,,, screw paying £450 a wheel from vw only to cringe when the inevitable first gouge comes out of them
if i am right you have normal monza alloys here, or are they monza 2 alloys, dont know the difference yet but they look the same as mine and i guess the shadows are the ones with the dark circles ?
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Monza Shadows IMHO. Look loads better. :happy2:
Get yourself over to "New members intro"', say hello and post some pics of your motor.
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The Monza 17" alloys are the only OEM ones which are one colour - All silver.
The Monza 18" on the Mk5 GTI are diamond-cut clear lacquered and with grey painted 'inserts'.
The Monza 18" on the Mk6 GTI are called "Monza Shadows" are diamond-cut etc but with black painted 'inserts'.
If you ever want to sell replica versions in the future they will be probably be much more difficult to sell. Folks on this forum tend to prefer the genuine ones.
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not convinced it is worth paying the genuine prices for the wheels when there is no real difference to the quality of the product !
apart from having a vw badge etc stamped on the inside of the wheel is there any point bearing in mind these kind off alloys are so easily damaged and may only last a few years before refurb needed or replacement, is there any real point paying double the price at least for genuine ones ?
also are the monzas refurbishable due to the diamond cut etc as my local garage said they would need to be posted away to be done and will take 2 weeks, is this just because they are diamond cut ?
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not convinced it is worth paying the genuine prices for the wheels when there is no real difference to the quality of the product !
....BBS developed and patented their Hollow Wheel Technology on the OEM Monza specifically for the Mk5 GTI. So I think you'll find that genuine Monza's are lighter weight and hence more responsive.
apart from having a vw badge etc stamped on the inside of the wheel is there any point bearing in mind these kind off alloys are so easily damaged and may only last a few years before refurb needed or replacement, is there any real point paying double the price at least for genuine ones ?
also are the monzas refurbishable due to the diamond cut etc as my local garage said they would need to be posted away to be done and will take 2 weeks, is this just because they are diamond cut ?
....Have a read of this: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,726.0.html
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My Mk5 GTI has refurbished 18" Monza's with the shadow mk6 effect. I think it is a specialist job to have the refurbed but mine were done in 3 days, I would have a look around in your area to find somewhere that has the right equipment and skill to do the job if you dont want to wait 2 weeks.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg630%2Fgreid1982%2Fadd455d2.jpg&hash=3ec19cd6b3b488508c6e7cb83014e75c4ff72666)
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thanks, your wheels look cool, i am starting to think the shadow monzas look better than the all silver ones i have, is there any durability difference between the mk6 shadows and the mk5 monzas as im a bit concerned about the fragility of the monzas in general as i have only just got the car and the wheels where new when i got it ( some stupid twt in the selling garage put back on 3.5mm tyres onto the new wheels pfff ) are the monzas in general really really easy to mark in comparison to something like the standard r32 alloys, i agree they look the best wheel for the gti but really are they impossible to keep in good cond ?
i am very carefull not to kurb wheels but potholes etc will have there toll,,,, just ned to find out how strong they are etc
thanks
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only had my mk5 a week i have 18" monza's which i don't think are diamond cut they look refurbed to me and painted they look diamond cut but you can see over spray in one or two bolt holes on one wheel but the darker colour around the holes is dark gray on mine sorry no closer pics
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv462%2Fcarpy25%2FP9220644_zps3e2e870a.jpg&hash=3f98039842659c3a4d7e266085676e7ffcb7b7af)
Rob
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hi rob, yes they look refurbed, places like kwik fit used to do this until they closed up recently, guess it wasnt paying out in that department but i knew the manager and all they done was sanded down and hand sprayed over, looks like that was done to yours but hard to see without close up pic,,, still trying to find out how durable the diamond cut wheels are, are you happy with your wheels or are you going to change them ?
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not convinced it is worth paying the genuine prices for the wheels when there is no real difference to the quality of the product !
Complete nonsense. I suggest you research the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged alloy wheel.
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18" monza's refurbed at A1 in Wolverhampton. Diamond cut shadows now 10 months old, no curbing and been down plenty of potholes. They're still as good as the day I got them, no whiteworm etc. I do clean them weekly and they've got a few coats of poorboys wheel sealant on to protect them. :smiley:
Intention is to take them off for the winter and run the 17" OEM wheels.
Free advertising for the fellas at DMR as well :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fjj45%2Fgodsy1969%2FIMG_2165-1.jpg&hash=717a7f70a1af04b35552ba2342c54dd44de818a8)
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re andrew parker,,,, rather than just putting a rude comment in( complete nonsense ) if you are going to comment on peoples posts then do it with some helpfull information rather than just being rude.
rather than doing mass research on hundreds of different companies making after market alloys i thought it would be better to ask the people who are driving the same car as most people in the gti forum are here to hep one another and comments like yours are not welcome and also stop newcommers asking questions in the first place.
against your beliefs a lot of people are very happy with the quality of reproduced wheels and dont want to pay £2k for a set of genuine ones, if you know the basic difference then great, post it, if all you have is a rude reply then shove it and post your own rubbish so people can ignore you.
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re bigmig, thanks for that, your car looks brand new and lovely, are your wheels genuine or replicas ?
u say u use poorboys wheel sealant,,,, what do u actually use to clean them before applying that ?
is the sealant just wiped on ? and do u apply it only after cleaning ie just one coat every time because obviouslly what you are doing is working fine and looks a winner, look forward to your reply
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Behave, you made a ridiculous statement. I rebuffed it. You'll get over it.
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andrew parker, what part of what i said was ridiculous then ? people like you should not be on foroms, you pass comment without explanation, now grow up and stop talking trash
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that's getting interesting! :popcornsoda:
Paul
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andrew parker, what part of what i said was ridiculous then ? people like you should not be on foroms, you pass comment without explanation, now grow up and stop talking trash
But I love foroms!
not convinced it is worth paying the genuine prices for the wheels when there is no real difference to the quality of the product !
For your information, that is what you said that is ridiculous - I quoted it in my original reply also, so there shouldn't be any confusion.
You won't find a replica Monza style alloy wheel that has the durability, strength, lightness and quality of finish of a genuine BBS Monza wheel. I think most round here would agree with that statement, and I think most choose genuine wheels based on those qualities. Anything else is a compromise, and I'd urge you not to put replica wheels with "jack of all trade" tyres on a GTI. You'll just make a sharp tool blunt.
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Chill out guys!!
My original diamond cut 18" Monzas lasted quite well for a few years, until the inevitable stone chips etc took their toll and white worm set in. It has got really bad now, and after seeing some helpful advice on here I have decided to get mine refurbed and powder coated rather than diamond cut. They should still look good, but will have the advantage that whiteworm won't return. Depending on how much it will cost I have been thinking of getting the inserts done in black because I think those Mk6 shadows look really good!
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what he said!
Best buy original but used Monzas 2 and you can refurb later on if need be!
Originals went on this site for as low as 400ish after refurb so worth to wait as the replicas are not comparable
Paul
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refurbing second hands - does it not depend how many refurbs they have had, I thought originals were hollow and therefore to refurb back to diamond cut finish means taking back the metal.... thought I read that you should only do it a max of 2 times?
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closer pic of mine post refurb.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg630%2Fgreid1982%2FMonzaIIShadows_zps6a7751ac.jpg&hash=d7ee24804eedaee9ac7362645812e6fca1057b6a)
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re andrew, not interested in arguing with you and with regards to talking rubbish, if you actually read my listing at no point did i say i was going to put as you quote << jack of all trades >> tyres on,,, i only use premium brands, and the best brands depending on need so stop passing silly comments please.
i simply was looking at the difference in oem wheels and after market, if it was as clear cut as oem is the only way to go then not a lot of people would buy after market but as you know there is very mixed responces and the bottom line is i am asking the question because i am trying to learn like most people on this site, we are here to discuss all things gti, to help each other with our cars and to familiarise ourselves with all things new or possibly better,,,, for you to come on and just stright say that i am talking rubbish is the kind of comment that is not welcome on sites like this.
if you have a contributing factor to MY LISTING then great, all comments welcome, but can i ask if all you have is crap then go and start your own listing and talk about your aerial or something, this is my last comment on you
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Monza Shadows are the ones to get , they look miles better with the Black insert compared with the grey on the original Monza II. It should't cost any more to get the Black instead of the Grey when you shell out for a refurb.
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hi guys, just bought my car and i like the monza 18 alloys but i need new tyres, the mk6 monzas which i beleive are the shadow 2 with the dark colour around the circular bit look nice,,,, do you think the mark 5 gti looks better with the normal monzas which are all the same colour finish or should i upgrade to the dark ones, seen them for around £340 brand new but replicas obviouslly.
the ones i have are brand new when i bought the car as the old ones where curbed etc and dealer said the diff in price for refurbing them was not that much dif than him putting new ones on so thats what he did to my delight but cant get these darker ones out of my mind.
because i have to buy new tyres i can get a deal on the new alloys if bought with tyres so may only cost me around £300 for a new set then i will just sell the ones that come off so that is the way i am thinking,,,,, do they look better ??? if anyone has any pics of the mk5 with both kinds of wheels on them i would appreciate it, also are the wheels i have easier to keep than the shadows with regards to stone chips, scuffing durability etc.
thanks guys
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re andrew, not interested in arguing with you and with regards to talking rubbish, if you actually read my listing at no point did i say i was going to put as you quote << jack of all trades >> tyres on,,, i only use premium brands, and the best brands depending on need so stop passing silly comments please.
i simply was looking at the difference in oem wheels and after market, if it was as clear cut as oem is the only way to go then not a lot of people would buy after market but as you know there is very mixed responces and the bottom line is i am asking the question because i am trying to learn like most people on this site, we are here to discuss all things gti, to help each other with our cars and to familiarise ourselves with all things new or possibly better,,,, for you to come on and just stright say that i am talking rubbish is the kind of comment that is not welcome on sites like this.
if you have a contributing factor to MY LISTING then great, all comments welcome, but can i ask if all you have is crap then go and start your own listing and talk about your aerial or something, this is my last comment on you
So you're asking what the difference is, whilst simultaneously saying here is no difference? That's going to get confusing.
By the way, welcome to the forum, I look forward to the eloquence of your posts in the future :happy2:
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closer pic of mine post refurb.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg630%2Fgreid1982%2FMonzaIIShadows_zps6a7751ac.jpg&hash=d7ee24804eedaee9ac7362645812e6fca1057b6a)
:happy2: Gorgeous , theres still no better wheel in my eyes than this for a mk5/6 GTI.
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no problem, i always like to use such words like eloquence,,, oooh so forcefull you are
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closer pic of mine post refurb.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg630%2Fgreid1982%2FMonzaIIShadows_zps6a7751ac.jpg&hash=d7ee24804eedaee9ac7362645812e6fca1057b6a)
:happy2: Gorgeous , theres still no better wheel in my eyes than this for a mk5/6 GTI.
wheels look great, thanks for the help i think i agree these are the best wheels on the gti, look nicer than the all silver colour, think my mind is made up,,,, how much was the refurb by the way
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
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I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted. Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge. If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus. If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost. :happy2:
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I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted. Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge. If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus. If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost. :happy2:
Thats still cheaper than the almost £800 a corner that VW will relieve you of for a new one and matching tyre!
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I was pretty much a newbie when I got my Monza's sorted. Bought second hand BBS 18" wheels in reasonable nick for £400 (could have got them slightly cheaper off here) refurb then cost just over £400 plus £114 a corner on Goodyears it all adds up to an awful lot of wedge. If you can pick a decent pair up that don't need a refurb then that's a bonus. If you get ones that do need refurbing be aware of the total this will cost. :happy2:
Thats still cheaper than the almost £800 a corner that VW will relieve you of for a new one and matching tyre!
:confused: That makes me feel better about my spend :happy2:
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
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hi rob, yes they look refurbed, places like kwik fit used to do this until they closed up recently, guess it wasnt paying out in that department but i knew the manager and all they done was sanded down and hand sprayed over, looks like that was done to yours but hard to see without close up pic,,, still trying to find out how durable the diamond cut wheels are, are you happy with your wheels or are you going to change them ?
its a good job the silver is quite reflective , i like the ed30 wheels but people will then claim I'm trying to make it look like one and i have a GTI which is why i like the cloth seats I'll get a close up when i wash the wheels next
Rob
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
Yes, I think they would be cast. I'm not saying there is anything particularly wrong with cast alloys, simply that forged alloys are superior. Also, if I remember rightly, the 17" Monzas are a cast alloy.
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
thank you for the link will check it out, i see your point regarding the difficulty if needing 1 more wheel, fortunatelly i know where they came from only 20 miles away the company but i agree i do not know durability etc on them, one of the reasons i joined this forum to find things like this out, i genuinelly only put dealer parts on my old golf and my wifes and dont touch anything after market - even down to the spark plugs but when i bought this car they put new wheels on it and would be silly for me to just disreggard them but i will keep an eye on their wear,,,, i still may buy original shadow ones and sell these before i get any marks on them but i will think it over,,,,, what do you think a realistic price would be for me to sell the set i have ?
they are 1 week old, no flaws i can see, 18 normal monzas with the diamond cut etc and they have a set of michelin on them all matching with around 4mm of even wear on them,,,,, may help me contribute if i change the whole wheels and tyres
any help appreciated
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Scott did you say your current 18's are all one colour? If so, then they have either been repainted at some point or they are not original Monzas. The original 18" Monzas for the MK5GTI have grey inserts. Only the 17's came as one colour.
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Scott did you say your current 18's are all one colour? If so, then they have either been repainted at some point or they are not original Monzas. The original 18" Monzas for the MK5GTI have grey inserts. Only the 17's came as one colour.
yes they are grey all over, 1 colour, they are 18s, i know they are replicas as the guy at the garage told me and i know where he got them from and they only sell replicas, def not recnditioned they are brand new but yes they are replicas
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?
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Oh ok then, my bad, I must have missed that bit earlier :ashamed:
Defo want to get mine redone as shadows though! :happy2:
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Oh ok then, my bad, I must have missed that bit earlier :ashamed:
Defo want to get mine redone as shadows though! :happy2:
are you going to get them re-painted with shadow colour ? any idea if it will look the same as original ones and cost ?
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?
Yes the RNS has inbuilt sat nav which I have found to be great. When I bought mine, 18 months ago, the version C was the latest and was the first RNS with a LED screen (much better especially in sunlight). I think they are up to version H now, the usual differences are processor speed/HDD capicity. The sound is improved compared to the standard unit, even with the OEM speakers. I really like the touch screen and SD card slot as makes it easy to load music on.
Was my first major upgrade and well worth it IMO :happy2:
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This gives a good overview of the differences between a cast alloy wheel and a forged wheel -
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/forged-wheels-vs-cast-wheels.html
As well as my concerns on strength I'd also be worried that if you do damage a wheel, say 12-months down the line, there may be no guarantee you'd be able to replace it with an identical replica. They do vary quite dramatically.
THANKS FOR THAT, I WILL LOOK INTO A POSSIBLE PURCHASE AND THANKS FOR THE ( H ) POSSIBLE MODEL DETAIL
There are a number of company's selling alloys for about £150 per corner. I assume these are all cast alloys even though they are not replicas?
hi kalpsn,,, i see you have the rns510 c led, i have the normal audio unit with an i pod upgrade in the arm rest, was thinking what unit to upgrade it to,,, does yours have the sat nav etc,, also i take it there is a diff between the normal rns510 and the c led version - what is the diff in all,,, noticed also that the standard 8 vw speakers aint that great with base was wonderring if you have same speakers and did you notice any diff when you upgraded ?
Yes the RNS has inbuilt sat nav which I have found to be great. When I bought mine, 18 months ago, the version C was the latest and was the first RNS with a LED screen (much better especially in sunlight). I think they are up to version H now, the usual differences are processor speed/HDD capicity. The sound is improved compared to the standard unit, even with the OEM speakers. I really like the tough screen and SD card slot as makes it easy to load music on.
Was my first major upgrade and well worth it IMO :happy2:
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Oh ok then, my bad, I must have missed that bit earlier :ashamed:
Defo want to get mine redone as shadows though! :happy2:
are you going to get them re-painted with shadow colour ? any idea if it will look the same as original ones and cost ?
Going to get mine refurbed and then powder coated rather than diamond cut. Will probably try to get the paint similar colours to the shadows if possible. They won't look exactly right, because they won't be diamond cut, but I'm hoping they should still look fairly close. Not too sure about cost because I don't know where to get them done yet. Need to locate a reputable company in my area.
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Scott nice wheels nice job bud but please please get your calippers polished lmao :happy2:
Dougie
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@ scottm72:
I'm trying to help and not be pedantic, but if you write your replies after the end-of-quote '[/ quote]' code, your words will appear in the right place and size without a grey background. I only say this so that folks can read your posts more easily :happy2:
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YEAH I CAN SEE MY REPLIES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO AFTER THE QUOUTE SIGN DO U JUST TYPE THERE THEN DO YOU ? OR IS IT BETTER TO JUST USE THE REPLY TAB, I CAN SEE WHAT YOU MEAN THOUGH
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YEAH I CAN SEE MY REPLIES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO AFTER THE QUOUTE SIGN DO U JUST TYPE THERE THEN DO YOU ? OR IS IT BETTER TO JUST USE THE REPLY TAB, I CAN SEE WHAT YOU MEAN THOUGH
....Yes, you write your reply after where you see the last '[/ quote]' written (assuming you are wanting to quote someone in your Reply). If you don't want to quote the words or photos you are replying to, just hit the Reply button.
The other thing is that WRITING SENTENCES ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS is considered to be shouting in internet forum etiquette (not just on this forum).
HTH (Hope This Helps) :happy2:
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closer pic of mine post refurb.
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mine look nothing above this this is what paint looks like with grey inserts
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv462%2Fcarpy25%2FP9250656.jpg&hash=05a7cb055115769e9af47b1b63e829202153f2f4)
you can just see the over spray in the bolt holes
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv462%2Fcarpy25%2FP9250657.jpg&hash=b6dd6e831d588088b81d60d8e28f08c3225efb18)
they are dirty and not washed
Rob
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closer pic of mine post refurb.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg630%2Fgreid1982%2FMonzaIIShadows_zps6a7751ac.jpg&hash=d7ee24804eedaee9ac7362645812e6fca1057b6a)
mine look nothing above this this is what paint looks like with grey inserts
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you can just see the over spray in the bolt holes
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they are dirty and not washed
Rob
yes i can see what you mean, very noticable after looking twice, def not going down that route then, very helpfull many thanks
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^^^ Personally don't like the painted finish.
This is what the standard Monza 2 finish looks like:
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I think I prefer the standard Monza II finish also.
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I prefer the subtlety of the standard Monza II to the Monza Shadow too, but it's just down to personal taste.
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^^^ Personally don't like the painted finish.
This is what the standard Monza 2 finish looks like:
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sometimes it looks quite good :innocent:
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^^ What colour is that??.
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^^^ Personally don't like the painted finish.
This is what the standard Monza 2 finish looks like:
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sometimes it looks quite good :innocent:
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Yes that colour combo does look good. Very nice finish on those :happy2:
Those are powder coated right? What colour?
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guys can i clarify something here, what is the main difference between the monza and monza 2, noob question i know but i see the last pic of the monza 2 has a darker inner circles, shadows is very dark, i get that, and original monzas ? the reason i ask is because i am not sure my monzas reps have any shade difference on the inner circles,,, will check them tomorrow when light,,, now i know they are not painted and i know they are new but i looked today briefly and didnt see any shade diff ? does that mean they are just normal monzas ? will try to put a pic up but not figured out how to do that yet, can any of you guys tell me how to insert a pic from my comp without using something like bucket list for quickness as i would need to set that up,,, would solve a lot of probs if i could just add a pi lol,,,, tried to copy and paste and wont let me ?????
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^^ What colour is that??.
think they were smoked chrome with gloss black inners...
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guys can i clarify something here, what is the main difference between the monza and monza 2, noob question i know but i see the last pic of the monza 2 has a darker inner circles, shadows is very dark, i get that, and original monzas ? the reason i ask is because i am not sure my monzas reps have any shade difference on the inner circles,,, will check them tomorrow when light,,, now i know they are not painted and i know they are new but i looked today briefly and didnt see any shade diff ? does that mean they are just normal monzas ? will try to put a pic up but not figured out how to do that yet, can any of you guys tell me how to insert a pic from my comp without using something like bucket list for quickness as i would need to set that up,,, would solve a lot of probs if i could just add a pi lol,,,, tried to copy and paste and wont let me ?????
There are 2 main differences between the Monza I and the Monza II. Firstly, the size of the wheel. Monza I, is 17inches and the Monza II, is 18 inches.
The second difference is, the Monza II has a polished face to the wheel, which gives it the slightly chrome look, also the inner section on the Monza II is a darker grey, were as the Monza I is all just one colour. :happy2:
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guys can i clarify something here, what is the main difference between the monza and monza 2, noob question i know but i see the last pic of the monza 2 has a darker inner circles, shadows is very dark, i get that, and original monzas ? the reason i ask is because i am not sure my monzas reps have any shade difference on the inner circles,,, will check them tomorrow when light,,, now i know they are not painted and i know they are new but i looked today briefly and didnt see any shade diff ? does that mean they are just normal monzas ? will try to put a pic up but not figured out how to do that yet, can any of you guys tell me how to insert a pic from my comp without using something like bucket list for quickness as i would need to set that up,,, would solve a lot of probs if i could just add a pi lol,,,, tried to copy and paste and wont let me ?????
Post 5 by RR explains the OEM options.
If yours are 18's and all silver then they aren't really a copy of any of the oem wheels. I guess you just have monza 2's but all silver.
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yes def 18s, think all silver, have to wait until daylight to check,,, how how how do i add a pic to my posting grrrrr,, think i may have all silver monza 11 reps then,, def glos finish but need to check
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hopefully i know what i am doing here and a picture of my wheels will appear lol,,, prob not,, if it does can anyone please tell me what wheels i have, thanks
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think i have just noticed a contributing factor as to why i have a bit of road noise on my tyres, all are 4mm but both near side tyres are michelin pilot sport 2 xl, and both offside are michelin excalto tyres ?, similar tread patterns but not exactly the same,,,, 2 front tyres are at 4mm and both rear around 3.5mm,,,, would you guys think this combination would contribute to a bit more road noise than you may expect ???
never even heard of michelin excalto tyres :scared:
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both near side tyres are michelin pilot sport 2 xl, and both offside are michelin excalto tyres ?, similar tread patterns but not exactly the same
....Surely you should have exactly the same tread patterns on the same axle.
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both near side tyres are michelin pilot sport 2 xl, and both offside are michelin excalto tyres ?, similar tread patterns but not exactly the same
....Surely you should have exactly the same tread patterns on the same axle.
absolutelly yes you do but as i said i have only just had the car a week and although i noticed all the tyres where michelin i didnt notice the diff tread patterns as they are pretty similar,,,,,,only a slight diff in the outside water dispersal grooves so hard to notice but alass they will need changed anyway at 4mm,,,, have you any ideas the best place to source original monza shadows at the best price as i guess i need all wheels and tyres now sigh,,, bit of a bummer considerring the wheels are brand new but i think i will go for the complete change if the price is right,,, will prob take the wheels off the car with the tyres attached and sell them as is on gumtree most likely, will advertise them as non originals but the fact they are brand new should see them shift ok for the right price :driver:
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only a slight diff in the outside water dispersal grooves so hard to notice but alass they will need changed anyway at 4mm,,,,
have you any ideas the best place to source original monza shadows at the best price as i guess i need all wheels and tyres now sigh
....I think that most of us don't buy new tyres until they are down to approaching 2 mm. I know that less tread depth = less grip but tyres like the Goodyear Asymmetrics seem to do ok.
For buying Monza Shadows, VW dealers will be the most expensive. Otherwise, genuine ones would have to be sourced privately and anyone selling some would probably sell them very quickly indeed unless too highly priced. I don't know of any replica Monza Shadows but they may exist.
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hopefully i know what i am doing here and a picture of my wheels will appear lol,,, prob not,, if it does can anyone please tell me what wheels i have, thanks
Those are Monza 2 reps (have grey inserts).
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^^ What colour is that??.
think they were smoked chrome with gloss black inners...
They look good. That's the kind of look I want to get when I get mine refurbed. Can I ask how much it cost?
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Just keep your wheels just now , they look smart enough , get yourself some new tyres once youve worn the current ones out (get them changed so that you have 2 of the same tyres on the same axle though , and ASAP!). and while you are running your reps , keep and eye on eBay and on here for genuine ones , even if you have to pick them up one or two at a time. When you get all four , get them refurbed and THEN sell your reps. 99.9% of people who see your car wont have a clue those wheels arent anything but genuine.
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Those are Monza 2 reps (have grey inserts).
+1. They are replica alloys in the Monza II style.
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^^ What colour is that??.
think they were smoked chrome with gloss black inners...
They look good. That's the kind of look I want to get when I get mine refurbed. Can I ask how much it cost?
£100 a corner..... pain in tha ass the company that did them that I dont think are about in London anymore the wheel specialist (there must be others that can provide the same though)...
tim
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thanks guys, all very helpfull information there, i will keep the wheels on where they are just now, i know the tread patterns are on the wrong axels but honestly the diff in tread pattern is very very minor with both being identical apart from the groove contour on the outside wall, plus the fronts are both 4mm with both backs at 3.5mm so prob better leaving them as is until i replace the lot,,,, also dont like mechanics anywhere near new wheels unless it is absolutelly necessary as the muppets always scratch them.
i remember when i ran a kwik fit garage i got a call on my day of, i was in b & q with the wife and i just saved something like £20 on a garden item in the sale so was fealing quite chuffed until i was informed that one of my idiot staff just badly scratched a guys alloy who was getting 4 tyres fitted to his ( wait for it ) PORSHE, unbeleivable,,, they had been warned before hand,,,, anyway the alloys where immaculate and he kicked up a storm.
bottom line is we had to pay for replacing the alloy with a brand new original one at a cost of £1500,,,, any damage staff do came out of the depots profit margin so all the staff lost something like £80 out of their salary that month and i personally lost my whole bonus of around £1000 just for that incident.
My b & q £20 discount didnt seem to matter any more on the drive home that day i tell you, 2 days later i had to also sack the guy for theft as well.
Kwik Fit are full of idiots who have very little skill and ever less training,,,, never never never take your car there for ANY work to be done because the little amount of staff who actually have any skill are under paid and rushed through it anyway, that also goes for the other competitors like budget etc,,, all the same.
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^^ What colour is that??.
think they were smoked chrome with gloss black inners...
They look good. That's the kind of look I want to get when I get mine refurbed. Can I ask how much it cost?
Cheers, that's the kind of price i've been budgeting for. Just need to find a reputable place in the Bournemouth area to get it done.
£100 a corner..... pain in tha ass the company that did them that I dont think are about in London anymore the wheel specialist (there must be others that can provide the same though)...
tim