MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: dmac1969 on September 26, 2012, 12:38:30 pm
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I like it! Opinions?
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Hmm, nothing is stirring in my trousers. Kind of isn't aggressive enough as I hoped for, nor do I like the red stripe that appears to run through the headlight.
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Wheels are a nice take on Monza's.
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60451/volkswagen-golf-gti-leaked-pictures/page/1/0#main-content-area
Still got the wheel barrow handles too.
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Mmmm, the performance pack option sounds interesting...
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Electronic parking brake I see , not sure thats a good thing.
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Not for me!
I still think the mk5 GTI has to be the nicest looking golf yet :notworthy:
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Electronic parking brake I see , not sure thats a good thing.
All MK7 Golfs will have one. I'm not sure why its a problem for people. Surely it's just something you'd get used to. I can't see why it's a negative...
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Electronic parking brake I see , not sure thats a good thing.
All MK7 Golfs will have one. I'm not sure why its a problem for people. Surely it's just something you'd get used to. I can't see why it's a negative...
Head luddite here , I resist change as much as I can , however I suppose I will get used to it - not that I will be able to afford one of these for about 6 years anyway!
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meh, not offensive but far from stunning. Hard pressed to tell the difference between this and a mk6 but that in itself is hardly surprising. Still looks better /far less chavy than a Focus ST. Alloys remind me of swastikas! :grin:
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Electronic parking brake I see , not sure thats a good thing.
All MK7 Golfs will have one. I'm not sure why its a problem for people. Surely it's just something you'd get used to. I can't see why it's a negative...
Head luddite here , I resist change as much as I can , however I suppose I will get used to it - not that I will be able to afford one of these for about 6 years anyway!
Electronic Brake works just fine on the company passat. Still grab for the handbrake from time to time :ashamed:
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You can't do handbrake turns with an e-brake :grin:
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meh, not offensive but far from stunning. Hard pressed to tell the difference between this and a mk6 but that in itself is hardly surprising. Still looks better /far less chavy than a Focus ST. Alloys remind me of swastikas! :grin:
My exact thoughts too!
VW have moved from the Iron Cross alloys on the mk6 GTD to full on swastikas for the mk7!! Do we have reason to worry?!! :laugh:
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Comes across a lot like the mk6 IMO.
Love the rims though. And I prefer the piano black trim compared to the gaudy chrome in the standard Mk7 Golf pics.
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meh, not offensive but far from stunning. Hard pressed to tell the difference between this and a mk6 but that in itself is hardly surprising. Still looks better /far less chavy than a Focus ST. Alloys remind me of swastikas! :grin:
My exact thoughts too!
VW have moved from the Iron Cross alloys on the mk6 GTD to full on swastikas for the mk7!! Do we have reason to worry?!! :laugh:
I wonder if they will rename the Golf as the KdF-Wagen! :happy2:
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Not too fond of the 3 door :sad1: And the bum... :sick:
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The "Monza 3's" look fantastic! Love the Mk1 rear window kink too. Wonder if the smoked tail lights will be standard?
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Not too fond of the 3 door :sad1: And the bum... :sick:
Love the bum. Wait. Hold on a minute. Are we talking about the car or something else.... :chicken: :ashamed:
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Approved! :happy2:
History will repeat itself in the same manner as every new GTi incarnation, first they'll be the 'I don't like it / not radical enough / I prefer my mk(?) / it's got the same style wheels / you can get a 12 year old Porsche for the same money'
Then will come the road tests and 'real' pics of your local dealers demo, the realisation it looks great in the flesh and on the road and then the inevitable thumbs up from EVO...
The UK's love affair with the 'everyman' hot hatch will then just roll on like it has always done, pausing only for the inevitable 6 month waiting list and moans about the meagre discounts available on a car that practically sells itself... :smiley:
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Front fog grills slats remind me of an R8.
Rear lights remind me of an Alfa the Berrera.
I like the inside, although electronic parking break is gash. Seem to all come with Xenons, MFSWs, Sat Nav etc
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rear is alfa like!I like the front! Alloys not to my liking - nothing can beat monzas 2 for me
Now would like to hear the power figure it will make!
Paul
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Approved! :happy2:
History will repeat itself in the same manner as every new GTi incarnation, first they'll be the 'I don't like it / not radical enough / I prefer my mk(?) / it's got the same style wheels / you can get a 12 year old Porsche for the same money'
Then will come the road tests and 'real' pics of your local dealers demo, the realisation it looks great in the flesh and on the road and then the inevitable thumbs up from EVO...
The UK's love affair with the 'everyman' hot hatch will then just roll on like it has always done, pausing only for the inevitable 6 month waiting list and moans about the meagre discounts available on a car that practically sells itself... :smiley:
This :congrats:
I have a question though! can you get the Monza shadows refurbed to look like the new Monza 3. :innocent: :star:
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I prefer that to the Mk5&6.
I'm intrigued to see what happens with the engine. I hope they give it around 250hp. It will be great then i reckon. Plus if it gets a 250hp eengine so wwill the vRS :popcornsoda:
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Interested to see what the engine will be.
Are those LED headlights?
Not too different but then I didnt expect it to be.
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I bet it has the same engine as the outgoing Mk6 GTI
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220hp 2.0tfsi
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It will probably be the Audi TSI variant.
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220hp 2.0tfsi
Surely not. That would be a 3 generation old engine
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It will probably be the Audi TSI variant.
What differs internally between that and your 2.0tsi
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I like this much more than I liked the mk6 initially, but not love at first sight as it was with the mk5 for me.
I guess it will grow on me and look nice in the flesh.
^^^ Would be expecting more than 220bhp
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So, looking at those wheels....are they directional? You can't have the trailing part of the alloy spoke going backwards on both sides unless they are....which I doubt.
I like the look of it and it looks like VW have taken the Porsche ethos of design onboard .....evolutionary, not revolutionary :happy2:
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It will probably be the Audi TSI variant.
What differs internally between that and your 2.0tsi
It has less power. :wink:
I thought the Audi lump did some clever variable timing stuff but I'm not sure.
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I like the driver focused dash. Very Supra.
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So, looking at those wheels....are they directional? You can't have the trailing part of the alloy spoke going backwards on both sides unless they are....which I doubt.
I like the look of it and it looks like VW have taken the Porsche ethos of design onboard .....evolutionary, not revolutionary :happy2:
I would put that down to an error in the pics. Great spot :happy2:
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Everyone seems to be claiming this will have 217bhp.
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Everyone seems to be claiming this will have 217bhp.
So it says in that Auto Express article , and the 'Performance Pack' gives you an extra 10 BHP plus some sort of torque vectoring.
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I wonder what the ED40 will look like. :popcornsoda:
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I wonder what the ED40 will look like. :popcornsoda:
Will that be a MkVII or VIII? Theres still 5 years to go , the VI has only lasted 4 and a bit years!
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Outside, looks ok, not a fan of red stripe through headlight either, insid looks similar to MK5 and just like MK6, get rid of that e-handbrake, pile of tech waiting for many trips stranded and in VW, will stick with my 5 until I get the Mk 6 Golf R methinks, hate the alloys btw, put a nice set of BBS on there!
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VW have moved from the Iron Cross alloys on the mk6 GTD to full on swastikas for the mk7!! Do we have reason to worry?!! :laugh:
....Volks Wagen have merely gone back to their roots:
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Looks a bit Mk6.5 but I think it looks a lot better than the Mk6.
Like the dashboard and interior but personally would prefer it with less silver blingy bits.
Clever design evolution of the Monza's.
I would want to drive one before judging its performance but the less Assist-this and Assist-that features the better.
I would not consider buying one.
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Nooooo, Robin don't start the Mk6.5 / Mk5.5 whatsamadubry again :laugh:
Would like to see some 'real life' pics, in the flesh so to speak.
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More than a hint of audi a3 about it??
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Take the current Golf, cut it in half, add 10 inches, weld back together.
What is interesting are the manufacturing differences, resulting in cheaper costs. But will that translate to cheaper prices or increased profit?
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More profit. Look at the MK6 - supposedly cheaper to build than the MK5 but cost around £10k more when buying.
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Electronic parking brake I see , not sure thats a good thing.
....I had an Audi S4 loaner with one for a week and soon got used to the e-handbrake button but didn't like the physical feel of operating it.
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I like this much more than I liked the mk6 initially, but not love at first sight as it was with the mk5 for me.
I guess it will grow on me and look nice in the flesh.
.... x 2
I want to see the 5-door version.
The Mk7 will doubtless look much better when modified and I expect that an R version will look even better (but I'm still in love with my Mk5).
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So, looking at those wheels....are they directional? You can't have the trailing part of the alloy spoke going backwards on both sides unless they are....which I doubt.
I like the look of it and it looks like VW have taken the Porsche ethos of design onboard .....evolutionary, not revolutionary :happy2:
....You can have the alloy spoke direction mirrored correctly if VW produce the wheels in nearside and offside pairs. Unlikely perhaps, but we don't know yet and you can bet your bottom dollar that your local VW dealer's salesperson won't have a clue.
^^^^ EDIT: Real life pics at Paris Show indicate clearly that VW are happy to have the spoke directions running differently on each side of the car :stupid: Did they think we wouldn't notice? Makes sense in production costs though and nowadays accountants overrule designers.
Those new Mk7 alloys are definitely 'marmite'.
I thought that VW had adopted the evolutionary ethos onboard a long long time ago. It's just that the Porsche body shape lends itself better to evolutionary designs.
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My view:
Loved the MK5 GTI instantly when it came out.
When the MK6 GTI came out I felt an instant 'want' for it from the press photos. Loved it. This was compounded upon seeing it in real life.
Upon seeing these pictures of the MK7, I feel no attachment to it whatsoever. It looks plain, boring, too conservative, just has no character/appeal. Interior is nice though, I'll admit!
Still bemused at how short the lifecycle was of the MK6, almost a waste of time if you ask me.
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Still bemused at how short the lifecycle was of the MK6, almost a waste of time if you ask me.
The "Mk6" was actually a "Mk5.5" which VW only released to massively cut the construction costs of the car, not that the consumer saw any of that saving :p.
The only cars I've ever felt lust for which were attainable were the Ed30 and any of the Mk6 GTI, Ed35, or R. The Mk7 will Be a good 'in I reckon and the interior is nice. I'm not the biggest fan of the external styling tho.
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LOADS OF REAL LIFE PICS HERE, FOLKS! (sorry to shout this out)
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24
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If you look at the picture of the blue GTI it would appear that Hurdy was right and the wheels aren't directional. That's a shame, such a small thing spoils it...
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RR those pics are great, cheers!
It has grown on me already so much. Love those alternative wheels and the red stripe through the lights is really, really cracking.
They'll have no problem shifting them, that's for sure! Classy car.
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I think the Mk7 GTI is a 'marmite' car. There are obviously some strong features in its body styling - Some I love but others I really dislike. We each will have our own strong likes and dislikes.
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Wow those pics are great. As I suspected...it has grown on me already and looks brilliant in the flesh :happy2:
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Is it me or is the battery wrapped in some kind of cardboard type thing?
Also, why is the oil filler cap so far to the left?
Still love the rims but the interior has some weird pattern rather than piano black which I thought it had. I think I like everything about it except the front end - which is what I said for the renderings of the MK7 Golf.
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It's growing on me, not that I would be able to buy one until it was about 5 years old
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Full VW Press Release here:
Volkswagen’s all-new Golf is making its motor show debut this week in Paris, with the seventh-generation of the evergreen model displaying a new look plus new technology, engines, safety and infotainment features. But no Golf line-up would be complete without the iconic GTI. That’s why Volkswagen has also revealed a concept of the GTI Golf on the stand alongside the standard hatchback.
The new Golf GTI, which is set to go on sale in mainland Europe in early 2013 and the UK in summer 2013, is powered by an advanced engine from the existing EA888 series: a 2.0-litre turbocharged direct-injection petrol engine with 220 PS (10 PS more than the current Golf GTI). For the first time in the car’s history, the GTI will also be available, direct from the factory, with a ‘performance pack’ which will boost the car’s maximum power to 230 PS.
In the entry-level car with 220 PS, maximum torque has been increased by 70 Nm to 350 Nm – the same as the previous Golf R – which gives impressive flexibility and in-gear acceleration. The new Golf GTI concept with 220 PS has a zero to 62 mph time of 6.6* seconds and a top speed of 153 mph; add the performance pack and maximum power rises to 230 PS, top speed to 155 mph, and the sprint time falls to 6.5 seconds.
Adding the 10 PS pack not only enhances performance but also handling, with front brake disc diameters increased, plus a front axle differential lock which reduces power-related understeer.
But the GTI’s power does not come at the cost of fuel economy or emissions. Both GTI versions will be equipped with a standard Stop/Start system, and fulfil the EU-6 emissions standard that takes effect in 2014. With a six-speed manual gearbox, the GTI is set to return 47.1* mpg (an 18 per cent improvement over the Mk VI), with carbon dioxide emissions of 140 g/km. A six-speed DSG gearbox is available as an option for both power levels.
Both GTI models also benefit as standard from a variable ratio steering system which, in essence, allows the driver toturn the car through a desired radius with smaller movements of the steering wheel. While conventional steering systems work with a fixed ratio, the new Golf GTI operates with a variable steering ratio which reduces steering input perceptibly when manoeuvring and parking. On twisting country roads, the driver experiences a benefit in dynamics due to the more direct layout.
Naturally, the new Golf GTI also benefits from all the technological advances of the standard seventh-generation Golf, such as reduced weight, new safety systems including multi-collision brake and innovative infotainment systems.
The new Golf GTI concept is distinguished by numerous external and internal styling features, including red brake calipers, honeycomb grille with double red stripe detail, smoked LED rear lights and LED licence plate illumination and chrome 80 mm diameter tailpipes. Inside, tartan sports seats, a flat bottomed steering wheel, GTI golf ball gear knob and GTI-specific red ambience lighting hark back to cars of previous generations while remaining completely up to date and refreshed for the new generation.
I like it. Saving for my Edition 40 already!! :happy2:
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It's growing on me, not that I would be able to buy one until it was about 5 years old
Love the Option wheels :drool: (assume 19's which is a shame :sad1:) wish the option wheels were 18" and std fitment, HATE the red line through headlight :sick:, love the cloth interior (and the rest of the interior except for that crappy e-handbrake), I really dislike the full leather option, looks boring as hell!.
I also like the small Red/chrome GTI badges on the side, MK2 anyone?
Lower bumper part on rear needs colour coding and smoothing out (No need for Hex pattern on rear, its just harder to clean :grin:), (Hoping that will be done on ED40) Red looks good :happy2:, White :drool:, blue :sick:
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Adding the 10 PS pack not only enhances performance but also handling, with front brake disc diameters increased, plus a front axle differential lock which reduces power-related understeer.
Well 10ps is not gonna make us smile anymore but the increased size of brakes and Diff Lock will come in handy for when we go stage 2+ on them :signLOL:
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LOADS OF REAL LIFE PICS HERE, FOLKS! (sorry to shout this out)
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24
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Fantastic link Robin! That Blue 5 door....PHWOARRRRRR , I friggin want that car NOW! :drool:
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Adding the 10 PS pack not only enhances performance but also handling, with front brake disc diameters increased, plus a front axle differential lock which reduces power-related understeer.
Bigger brakes. Well I never. :laugh:
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:signLOL:
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Decent photo of the 5-door -
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Decent photo of the 5-door -
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Thats just bloody gorgeous - i love that colour! :drool: :drool: Its not Rising Blue is it , must be a new one?
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Decent photo of the 5-door -
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Thats just bloody gorgeous - i love that colour! :drool: :drool: Its not Rising Blue is it , must be a new one?
It's not laser blue is it?
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a bit too purple for my liking!
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Decent photo of the 5-door -
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Thats just bloody gorgeous - i love that colour! :drool: :drool: Its not Rising Blue is it , must be a new one?
It's not laser blue is it?
Nodz , that was my first thought , they've brought Laser Blue back! If it isn't , it's a damn close match to it!
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Decent photo of the 5-door -
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Thats just bloody gorgeous - i love that colour! :drool: :drool: Its not Rising Blue is it , must be a new one?
It's not laser blue is it?
Nodz , that was my first thought , they've brought Laser Blue back! If it isn't , it's a damn close match to it!
Not a fan of bluse cars at all im afraid :grin:
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I think mine would have to be red. I like the blue, but find the white dreadfully dull.
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Ive had my Red GTI for just over 2 years so I want some other colour next , that Blue looks lush but a MkVI GTI will be out of reach till about 2018! Most probably White for me next.
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So would anyone on here do the following if they really wanted a new car next year:
Mk7 Golf GTI
Polo R
or be patient and save for an Edition 40? which would be 3 years away next year.
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But that's 3 years away, with very few exceptions, whatever you own for the next 3 years is going to depreciate and there's always going to be the prospect of something 'better' coming soon. Carbon edition, other specials....
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I like it! That in red is :drool: Looks more refined and stylish
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But that's 3 years away, with very few exceptions, whatever you own for the next 3 years is going to depreciate and there's always going to be the prospect of something 'better' coming soon. Carbon edition, other specials....
Well, we have a Lupo and T4. If i was to wait 3 years, id just keep those runnng. They wont depreciate really, or owe us too much. Who am i kidding, i can barely keep a car 6months, however, apart from planning to upgrade the T4 to a T5 at some stage, thats about it really. 3 years is a long way off too.
Hmm.....heres hoping to a sub £25k price, but not likely. Cant see VW passing on their reduced operational/manufacturing costs.
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Has anyone else thought the red stitching will probably be dropped until the ed40?? Especially as the blue one has the golf ball gear knob as well which normally only appears in the special editions?
Heres my wishlist of how i'd have it:
This colour (surprise surprise lol)
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These wheels:
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With this interior:
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Ive had my Red GTI for just over 2 years so I want some other colour next , that Blue looks lush but a MkVI GTI will be out of reach till about 2018! Most probably White for me next.
White is the way forward, Blue I just think clapped out Ford Orion :signLOL: and Red is just for Boy racers :grin:
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Has anyone else thought the red stitching will probably be dropped until the ed40??
Remember that this car is billed as the GTI Concept, so I'd expect some changes between this and what you'll see next summer.
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and Red is just for Boy racers :grin:
Oi!!! :laugh:
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Me likey :happy2:
That interior is just awesome :love:
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Anyone else apprehensive abou the variable ratio steering system?
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from the VW facebook page...
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=509649815729697&set=pb.157405840954098.-2207520000.1348779304&type=1&theater
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Couldnt they hire a decent photographer? :grin:
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and Red is just for Boy racers :grin:
Oi!!! :laugh:
:signLOL: :happy2:
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I think I prefer the mk6 gti steering wheel... The mk7 ones shape looks exceedingly similar to an Audi wheel to me! At least the mk5 & 6 one looks exclusive to Volkswagen
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Love the new mk7 gti, best looking golf yet and so glad they're still making a 3dr ( most manufacturers seem to be going 5dr only, clio rs, focus st )
Hope to own one... one day :P
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I think I prefer the mk6 gti steering wheel... The mk7 ones shape looks exceedingly similar to an Audi wheel to me! At least the mk5 & 6 one looks exclusive to Volkswagen
I think the Mk7 wheel is better. More ergonomic and access to most functions from the steering wheel. Always been a pain having to use stalks for cruise etc when literally every other manufacturer has moved these controls to the steering wheels. I think its about time.
Im so tempted to get one next year...........ahhhh..........will have to see what pricing is like first, or like i hinted at wait till they release the Edition 40 which should hopefully have the hinted carbon fibre parts.
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I've just been reading VWVortex's FB page and apparently VW have said the stripe through the headlights could go as its still a concept and are seeing what peoples opinions are
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I've just been reading VWVortex's FB page and apparently VW have said the stripe through the headlights could go as its still a concept and are seeing what peoples opinions are
I hope they ditch it.
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I hope they keep it!
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That blue golf is stunning. That in 3 door :drool:
I quite like the red through the headlight too.
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I quite like the red stripe too.
Anyone notice the pikey lowering technique in one of the pics on the link Robin posted? Ratchet straps around the springs and arms?? Expect production to be usual "on stilts" ride height.
I very much like it, 5 door looks a good proposition for the misses' next broomstick.
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I quite like the red stripe too.
Anyone notice the pikey lowering technique in one of the pics on the link Robin posted? Ratchet straps around the springs and arms?? Expect production to be usual "on stilts" ride height.
I very much like it, 5 door looks a good proposition for the misses' next broomstick.
I was actually thinking it may not need much lowering but that explains it.
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I've just been reading VWVortex's FB page and apparently VW have said the stripe through the headlights could go as its still a concept and are seeing what peoples opinions are
I hope they ditch it.
x2, looks like a bumper stripe someone added to a MK2 XR2 = bloody awfull :signLOL:
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I'm not sure about the red stripe yet. Would like to see what it looks like on just the centre grill. Photoshop anyone?
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I'm not sure about the red stripe yet. Would like to see what it looks like on just the centre grill. Photoshop anyone?
Your wish is my command...
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I'm not sure about the red stripe yet. Would like to see what it looks like on just the centre grill. Photoshop anyone?
Your wish is my command...
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Having seen that , I prefer it running through the headlamp , the grille only pic doesnt look 'right' somehow.
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I'm not sure about the red stripe yet. Would like to see what it looks like on just the centre grill. Photoshop anyone?
Your wish is my command...
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Having seen that , I prefer it running through the headlamp , the grille only pic doesnt look 'right' somehow.
Exactly what I think.
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I quite like the red stripe too.
Anyone notice the pikey lowering technique in one of the pics on the link Robin posted? Ratchet straps around the springs and arms?? Expect production to be usual "on stilts" ride height.
I very much like it, 5 door looks a good proposition for the misses' next broomstick.
I was actually thinking it may not need much lowering but that explains it.
I had noticed the straps and wandered what they where, so thanks for explaining.
I like the look of it, but that 5 door looks slightly 1 series esque from a side view.
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I prefer the grille only stripe.
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From EVO mag in Paris: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/286729/updated_vw_golf_gti_revealed_at_the_paris_motor_show.html
So the Sport Pack should be around £900 which isn't bad for brakes and a trick diff fully factory supported (we'll ignore the 10bhp here as I'm sure most people who spec the sport pack will map it further and mostly take advantage of the big brakes and diff).
And the R might not be engineered in RHD, which is understandable as I don't think many UK buyers coughed up £35k+ in loose change for a shopping car when there are so many other more capable cars for similar money.
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Could some photoshop both a double grill only stripes (like the MK6) and one with the ends turned up (like the MK5)?
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Love the colour.
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Love the colour.
Isn't that the colour the ED35 was meant to come in but due to Fukushima they dropped it due to supply problems?
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Spot on i think thats a lovely looking car ! Well done vw !!
You know actually..... i think its the best looking gti so far
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Really like Mk7 GTi and can imagine I'll be all over a Ed40 myself in 4/5 years, expect my Ed30 to be worth about £20 by then, if I'm lucky.
CW still works for me, even though the launch blue and red are pretty cool.
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Love the colour.
I love the colour too and really like the red stripe through the headlight in conjunction with it, a bit on the fence on the other colours though
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dont like the stripe in headlights ,the rest is good :smiley:
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Another nice shot of the blue 5-door
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The shape of the headlights give it an angry face. When are they available. :happy2:
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Some more Mk7 info, folks:
http://www.vwvortex.com/features/technical-features/golf-7-technicalpreview/
Lane Assist :sick:
Same 'LSD' as Mk6 :sad1:
Obviously it has some great technical advances but I'm really not a fan of all the Assist features which promote less care and focus on driving.
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Obviously it has some great technical advances but I'm really not a fan of all the Assist features which promote less care and focus on driving.
All these features can be turned off though. It's like when people complain about Stop/Start technology - just choose not to use it.
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Some more Mk7 info, folks:
http://www.vwvortex.com/features/technical-features/golf-7-technicalpreview/
Lane Assist :sick:
Same 'LSD' as Mk6 :sad1:
Obviously it has some great technical advances but I'm really not a fan of all the Assist features which promote less care and focus on driving.
It actually says that XDS is standard Robin. It doesnt mention what additional specification the GTI concept will have for its diff.
standard XDS electronic differential lock (standard on last-gen GTI)
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Yeah, they mention the "pack" adds a diff, whether that's mechanical or more aggressive XDS settings, who knows?
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Obviously it has some great technical advances but I'm really not a fan of all the Assist features which promote less care and focus on driving.
All these features can be turned off though. It's like when people complain about Stop/Start technology - just choose not to use it.
....That's good news for drivers like me - I don't even like Cruise Control!
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Yeah, they mention the "pack" adds a diff, whether that's mechanical or more aggressive XDS settings, who knows?
....If it's an optional 'pack' perhaps it's more likely to be XDS settings rather than hardware, but as you rightly say, who knows?
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Not keen on those rims at all. Liking the front though - minus the go faster stripe!
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Autocar review -
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf/first-drives/first-drive-review-volkswagen-golf-mk7
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Do we think the red stripe through the headlights might be just for the show 'concept' version of GTi.
Given that detail is not everyones cup of tea, I wonder if that might not make the final production sign off? Just my thoughts on the light stripe.
The light redline looks a bit cack in my view, though the car overall impresses me, as said before Ed40 will be a goer for me probably.
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I the road test above the car had a silver grille trim piece and a silver line in the headlight. I'd imagine that the red line is here to stay :-/
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I the road test above the car had a silver grille trim piece and a silver line in the headlight. I'd imagine that the red line is here to stay :-/
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I hope it's mechanical lsd on gti, it could be even optional
Paul
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I hope it's mechanical lsd on gti, it could be even optional
Paul
....If it's not a mechanical version then I think that VW are missing a trick. If it is mechanical, then I expect it may be an option costing ~£1,000.
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I hope it's mechanical lsd on gti, it could be even optional
Paul
....If it's not a mechanical version then I think that VW are missing a trick. If it is mechanical, then I expect it may be an option costing ~£1,000.
Just checked again the EVO vid review outlines a mechanical diff in the performance pack plus the 10bhp.
So I'm guessing normal XDS as normal, then mechanical diff a la Megane RS and new VXR in the performance pack option.
RR is bang on with it being about a grand though, the EVO story says a mere £900..so they say. So dare say four figures by the time it gets here.
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Someone above mentioned you get bigger brakes for your money, so a factory fitted LSD and bigger brakes without voiding your warranty is well worth £1000 I reckon. And that's before you add in the scorching extra 10bhp (why couldn't it have been 40 or something?)
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Good news for Mk7 GTI buyers if the LSD is mechanical but if VW are only offering an extra 10 bhp how big will their brakes option be though? And fronts only?
We shall all know in the fullness of time.
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Pretty sure I read the option brakes were 340s. I doubt you'll see a decent monoblock caliper (Brembo/AP/Other) though... They're probably S3 ones.
The big news here is the diff, that's a massive bonus. :happy2:
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Again:
No doubt about the Performance Package with 10 HP more, VAQ differential and 17" S3 brakes:
Press release:
New Golf GTI produces 217 HP in standard version and 227 HP with performance pack
Production version of seventh Golf GTI debuts with new progressive steering
Wolfsburg / Paris, 27 September 2012 – Paris is now the city of the Golf GTI. Four years ago, the sixth generation of the best-seller made its debut here – still as a concept car. Now, in autumn 2012, Volkswagen is presenting the seventh generation Golf GTI in a premiere at the Mondial de l’Automobile in Paris – also as a concept car. In doing so, Volkswagen is opening another window to the immediate future of the most successful European car model series, because another car being shown to a global audience in the French capital at the same time as the GTI is the near-production concept of the new Golf BlueMotion. The new Golf GTI will be launched into the market in early 2013.
One GTI, two power levels
217 HP and 227 HP. The concept of the next Golf GTI is powered by a further advanced engine from the EA888 series – a two-litre turbocharged direct-injection petrol engine with 162 kW / 217 HP. A new option: for the first time in the iconic sports car’s history, a performance pack will be available as a factory-installed option. In this version, the engine’s maximum power is boosted to 169 kW / 227 HP. Both GTI versions are equipped with a Stop/Start system as standard, they fulfil the EU-6 emissions standard that takes effect in 2014 and – with a 6-speed manual gearbox – they attain the same low DIN fuel consumption of 6.0 l/100 km (39.2 MPG) (CO2: 140 g/km). Compared to the previous model (155 kW / 210 PS), the combined fuel consumption of the new Golf GTI is therefore reduced by 1.3 litres per 100 km or 18 per cent. A 6-speed dual-clutch gearbox (DSG) is available as an option for both power levels. The recognised high agility of the Golf GTI has been increased once again in the new model compared to the previous model – in two stages:
Stage 1 – standard GTI: The 217 HP base version now produces 7 HP more than the previous model. At the same time, its maximum torque was increased by an immense 70 Nm (52 lb-ft) to 350 Nm (258 lb-ft). This value in the new Golf GTI is exactly the same as that of the previous Golf R, which was powered by an engine from another TSI generation. Equipped in this way, the Golf GTI makes its appearance with impressive flexibility values: in fourth gear, the Golf GTI accelerates from 80 to 120 km/h (50 mph to 75 mph) in 5.0 seconds; in fifth gear it takes 6.0 seconds. Other data that must not be overlooked in a GTI: the new one accelerates to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 6.6 seconds and reaches a top speed of 246 km/h (153 mph).
Stage 2 – Performance GTI: Those choosing a Golf GTI with the performance pack ignite the second stage. As mentioned, the car’s power is increased by 7 HP here, while its maximum torque is identical. The 227 HP of power enables a top speed of 250 km/h* (155 mph) and just 6.5 seconds for the sprint to 100 km/h (62 mph).
New front axle differential lock and progressive steering
The performance pack not only offers a plus in power, but also a plus in handling: instead of 16-inch brakes, the GTI is equipped with 17-inch brakes here (with GTI badges on the calipers) and a front axle differential lock (VAQ) that is also being offered for the first time in this form.
Front axle differential lock. The electronically controlled lock has a positive effect on active safety and driving dynamics, because it practically prevents the power-related understeer that can occur in powerful front-wheel drive cars. This makes handling precise, and has a stabilising effect in load-alteration induced oversteer. The reason: VAQ increases the power to the wheel on the outside of the curve, which also optimises the vehicle’s speed through bends. Traction is also improved when driving on loose and wet road surfaces and in turning situations.
Progressive steering. The new progressive steering system is celebrating a world premiere in the Golf GTI. It is a standard feature for both power levels. Thanks to this steering system, the driver can turn the car through a desired radius with fewer turns of the steering wheel. In other words, the driver does not need to reach over the wheel as often. That may sound simple, but it is revolutionary. The reason is that conventional steering systems work with a constant gear ratio. The new steering of the Golf GTI, meanwhile, operates with a progressive steering gear ratio. This noticeably reduces steering work when manoeuvring and parking. On country roads with lots of bends, and when making turns, the driver experiences a benefit in dynamics due to the more direct layout.
Technically, progressive steering differs from the basic steering system due to the rack and pinion’s variable tooth spacing and a more powerful electric motor. Its functional difference: unlike with constant steering ratios, which by necessity always represent a compromise between dynamic performance and comfort, here the steering rack’s toothing is significantly modified by the steering stroke. As a result, the transition between indirect steering behaviour in the mid-range (straight-line driving) and direct steering behaviour at larger steering wheel angles is designed to be progressive, which, as mentioned above, enables significantly more agile steering behaviour in dynamic driving situations. This results in smaller steering input angles when parking for greater convenience and comfort.
Variable ratios have long been known in the area of hydraulic steering systems; however, the tuning of such a steering system is subject to very tight limits, so that the driver is not overtaxed by the transitional behaviour. With the Golf GTI’s progressive steering system the situation is completely different: the combination of the steering rack’s progressive steering ratio and the tuning potential of an electro-mechanical steering system is systematically exploited in the GTI to realise optimised steering behaviour that is sporty yet practical in everyday driving. In all other Golf cars, progressive steering is offered as an optional feature.
Exterior – features and styling
GTI insignia. Like all six Golf GTI generations before it, the seventh generation concept car being shown in Paris is distinguished from other Golf models by numerous additional equipment features and classic GTI insignia. On the exterior, these include the red painted brake calipers, a GTI-typical honeycomb structure for the air inlet screens, smoked LED rear lights including LED licence plate lighting as well as chrome 80 mm diameter tailpipes on the left and right. Some features have been characteristic since the days of the first Golf GTI, for example the production colours Red (“Tornado Red”) and “Black” and an optional white exterior (“Pure White” as special colour). Volkswagen has further developed the classic GTI wheels “Denver”, “Detroit” and “Glendale” whose styling characteristics from the previous model have flowed into the design of the new machine-polished 17-inch “Brooklyn” alloy wheels; they have a lighter visual look and are in fact lighter in weight. The wheels are fitted with 225/45 size tyres. 18-inch wheels will also be available on the GTI as an option.
GTI styling. Overall, the seventh generation Golf is also visually more dynamic than the previous one. The objective of the designers was to develop an even more striking and sporty character into the new Golf GTI – the goal was to give the GTI a lower, wider image with a more challenging character. Volkswagen Design developed numerous individual, detailed solutions for the new Golf GTI and integrated them harmoniously into the overall visual concept. Important here is the fact that the GTI-specific design elements are not simply “add-on” solutions, but are integrated into the overall design of the car. One significant reason for this is that the GTI was designed in parallel to the “normal” Golf – and this made it possible to coordinate perfectly the differentiating characteristics of the two model versions.
At the front end, with its LED fog lights specially customised for the GTI, a powerful and significant GTI element attracts attention, which has now been fully reinterpreted: the red stripe. In the first generation of the car it surrounded the rectangular radiator grille completely. On the sixth generation GTI there were two red stripes, which framed the grille at the top and bottom. Now, on the seventh generation car, the red stripe marks the lower edge of the radiator grille, but for the first time it extends further to the left and right, up to the housings of the bi-xenon headlights. So, the red line now runs completely across the front end.
In the far lower section of the bumper, beneath the crossbar painted in body colour, the black air inlet (with a honeycomb pattern screen) is no longer framed by a black area, rather by surfaces painted in body colour, which makes the air inlet stand out more powerfully. At the same time, the three lateral black aerodynamic fins beneath the headlights play a more prominent role in the front end styling. Another detail fitting in with the precisely contoured styling is the black splitter (lower edge of the front spoiler), which is familiar from motorsport. Also styled in black are the side sills and the rear diffuser. These quasi wrap-around black elements give the Golf, which is equipped with a GTI sport chassis (15 mm lower ride height), an even fuller stance on the road.
Another example of the harmonious integration of GTI-specific elements is the new roof spoiler design, which is considerably larger than its counterpart on Golf versions with less powerful engines and which is integrated to be flush with the bootlid and the body. For the first time, the sporty Volkswagen also has, in addition to the GTI badges at the front and rear, red plates on the front wings at the height of the character line with the same typographic interpretation of the GTI logo that has been used for decades.
Interior – features and appearance
GTI insignia in the interior. The very first GTI had this feature: seat covers in legendary tartan pattern. The sixth generation Golf GTI used “Jacky” fabric, and in the transition to the new GTI generation this has been redesigned and is now named “Clark”. Naturally, the tartan pattern was retained. The sport seats (in front, with sliding drawers under the seats) have exceptionally good ergonomic properties. Step in, sit down, adjust the backrest angle and the distance to the steering wheel, buckle up, and you’re all ready to drive. Nonetheless, the front seats also have height adjustment and a manually adjustable lumbar support. Red decorative seams in the area of the seats and the gear shift trim provide a sporty contrast; the black roofliner that is always part of the GTI emphasises the sporty layout of the interior.
GTI features. Along with its many standard features such as air conditioning, fatigue detection and the “Composition Touch” radio system (with CD card slot and AUX-IN interface), other GTI-specific features refine the standard version interior as well: typical of a Golf GTI are the customised sport steering wheel and a special gear shift grip. The latter is once again reminiscent of a golf ball, which also makes it a tribute to the first GTI just like the new leather-trimmed steering wheel design. The sporty flat-bottomed steering wheel with its three metal spokes and trim in high-gloss black has a lightweight look, and it is remarkably handy and easy to grip. On its two cross spokes it has multifunction keys as standard, and at its centre – in contrast to all other Golf steering wheels – it has a round impact absorber whose form is similar to that of the component in the first GTI.
Also making a strong statement is the GTI instrument cluster with a colour display and independent graphics of its instruments. It is no coincidence that it resembles high-end chronographs. The GTI-specific look of the interior is completed by red ambience lighting, special trim strips and panels (trim strips in the front doors with ambience lighting), brushed stainless steel pedals and foot rest (on left), door sill entry plates in front with a stainless steel application and ambience lighting that is also integrated here.
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Wasnt there something the Ford guys were saying about a electronic diff being better than a mechanical one recently.... something they plan on using in the new RS for 350ish bhp.
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It will be interesting to see which brakes they use. R32/S3/Cupra at a guess.
Interesting concept putting bigger brakes on a car with only 227bhp. :evilgrin:
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It will be interesting to see which brakes they use. R32/S3/Cupra at a guess.
Interesting concept putting bigger brakes on a car with only 227bhp. :evilgrin:
not to mention its 100kg lighter that the previous chassis :confused:
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Wasnt there something the Ford guys were saying about a electronic diff being better than a mechanical one recently.... something they plan on using in the new RS for 350ish bhp.
What kind electronic diff? Something like XDS? Surely not as efficient.
The Focus Mk.II RS had a Quaife - much better. The new Mk.VII GTI
will get a electronically controlled clutch plate diff as an option - even
better than a conventional mechnanical diff. This one ist state of the art.
Very likely the next gen RS will get a similar diff:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26505
It will be interesting to see which brakes they use. R32/S3/Cupra at a guess.
These ones at ~ 6:00:
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Interesting concept putting bigger brakes on a car with only 227bhp. :evilgrin:
We all said for years that both Mk.V and Mk.VI GTI had weak brakes.
I guess Volkswagen heard it.
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Has it already been posted that the next Golf R is unlikely to be imported? :sad1:
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Why this?
I doubt that even Volkswagen knows about importing this version to the Uk one year before.
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Why this?
I doubt that even Volkswagen knows about importing this version to the Uk one year before.
Direct from 'evo' magazine:
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Maybe they didn't sell enough, maybe it will be a special order, we will see?
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Why this?
I doubt that even Volkswagen knows about importing this version to the Uk one year before.
There was a comment from a senior figure at the Paris show who said it didn't sell well enough in the UK.
Anyway, there's nothing stopping you importing from Germany/The Netherlands.
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didnt sell well enough.... maybe as it was priced too high :laugh:
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:congrats:
Agreed - if it had been cheaper, there'd have been more sold.
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Is it just me or is there no MAF :surprised:
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I Love it. Absolutely love it.
With the Ea888 producing 230 bhp, what gains will be made from a simple revo stage 1 remap?
Would it be similar to that gained on Stage 1 on an Ed30 i.e around 290-300 bhp?
With stronger brake option ticked, might be the perfect GTi.
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Any indication yet what the list price will be?
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In EVO this month they review the 1.4 TSI GT, which lists at over £22k. Is it conceivable that the GTI will be in the region of £28k?
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You can't do handbrake turns with an e-brake :grin:
Im told you can do one mother of an emergency stop with one though. Yet to be tried out on the company Pissrat.
Oh and I like it. Can't go wrong with a Golf.
I just need a job closer to home to justify getting a petrol engine.
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thought i hated the look of the new mk7 but, after seeing the pics RR posted a link to, i actually like it.
would have to have a 3dr in blue with those snowflake type wheels, i also like the red bit through the headlights and the red side badge which is reminiscent of a mk2. not a fan of the steering wheel or the e-brake
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You can't do handbrake turns with an e-brake :grin:
Im told you can do one mother of an emergency stop with one though. Yet to be tried out on the company Pissrat.
Oh and I like it. Can't go wrong with a Golf.
I just need a job closer to home to justify getting a petrol engine.
This is true, if you pull the e-brake on my A6 it goes into hyper-emergency brake mode!
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Not for me!
I still think the mk5 GTI has to be the nicest looking golf yet :notworthy:
I couldn't agree with you more. The mk5 is a gorgeous shape. I went to the paris motorshow and really I was dissapointed with the mk7.
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Yeah I do like look of the MK7, also like the idea of having an ally roof. But surely it would dent easy?
Joe
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I Love it. Absolutely love it.
With the Ea888 producing 230 bhp, what gains will be made from a simple revo stage 1 remap?
Would it be similar to that gained on Stage 1 on an Ed30 i.e around 290-300 bhp?
With stronger brake option ticked, might be the perfect GTi.
Does anyone have any thoughts/previous knowledge on the tuning potential of this motor?
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Does anyone have any thoughts/previous knowledge on the tuning potential of this motor?
....It's too soon to tell - The Mk7 GTI isn't available in the UK yet. To begin with it will depend on the ECU encryption etc which Volkswagen have used, or will that be the same?
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We still don't know the hardware differences between (Mk.VII) GTI and S3 (8V).
I'm afraid that the GTI will get a smaller turbo charger than R and S3.
Remember it has been this way in the past. And 70/80 HP is lots of a difference
in power. I don't think VW will spend the GTI the same S3 engine.
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Any idea on cost?