MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 23, 2012, 11:32:51 pm
Hi All
Just purchased a edition 30 which was a full Uk spec euro import. Just read some euro imports didn't have an alarm?
Been through the optional extra codes and can't find a mention of 1 - anyone know if it should be listed and if so the 3 digit code?
Is there a quick way of cheking for an alarm other than lobbing a brick through the window?!
Any idea of the cost of retro fitting standard VW alarm - is this even possible?
Also There is no build number plaque - can I get one if it was an import?
Cheers for any answers to any of the above
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 23, 2012, 11:35:47 pm
Are there motion sensors on the roof lining on the passenger side and a button on the lower B-pillar near the seat belt on the drivers side.

Yes it can be retrofitted

build number probably not as they were not limited in mainland europe
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: RedRobin on October 23, 2012, 11:38:32 pm
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An import without alarm may effect your insurance premium.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 23, 2012, 11:46:22 pm
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An import without alarm may effect your insurance premium.

there was a member on here, had his policy cancelled due to this after he informed his insurance company
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 23, 2012, 11:59:07 pm
I'll have a look for motion sensors tomorrow. Cheers for the replies.
Eddie - Any idea of cost to retro fit?
Was told full uk spec and absolutely no difference to uk car when I bought - no alarm is a pretty big difference IMO!
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 24, 2012, 12:08:21 am
Price depends on if you use 2nd hand parts or new parts

Check first to see if you have it, also if it is an import (namely Motorpoint) make sure it is not one from Dubai
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 24, 2012, 12:12:51 am
Deffo not from Dubai or motor point - built in Wolfsburg - first inspection in Reine - first registered in UK with 1 owner from new - got code in the extras for spare wheel and other uk kit but worried could see a code for an alarm.
I'll check ASAP.
Cheers again for the advice
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 24, 2012, 12:20:24 am
even the dubai ones are built in wolfsburg, but yours is from Norway
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 06:19:58 am
Mines an import and has no alarm either.  I tested it by getting in the car, locking it, waiting a minute then opened the door.  I think that's right!  It does tell you in the owners handbook how to test.

I'm insured with Admiral & their website only asks for an immobiliser and or tracker, no mention of alarm.

Eddie, how did you know it came from Norway? Could you check my car as I'm not 100% sure the I trust the VW dealer Ibought mine from, they didn't know it was an import until I pointed out the differences to them!

EDIT: Just realised you based that upon the town name!  Is there a way to find out where the car came from as I don't have proof where mine came from.  Dealer says it was shipped direct from Germany to UK, vague!
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Matto on October 24, 2012, 06:31:52 am
Motorpoint import here. I only found this out when checking up on the service history before I bought it. It wasn't on the main VW system but believe it is now due to having the injectors done and my local dealer not being able to claim the money back if it wasn't. Mine definitely has an alarm though.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: skard on October 24, 2012, 06:46:03 am
Mines an import and has no alarm either.  I tested it by getting in the car, locking it, waiting a minute then opened the door.  I think that's right!  It does tell you in the owners handbook how to test.

Did your indicators flash after a few seconds from opening the door with the key? Common fault for sirens to fail.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 06:48:57 am
Mines an import and has no alarm either.  I tested it by getting in the car, locking it, waiting a minute then opened the door.  I think that's right!  It does tell you in the owners handbook how to test.

Did your indicators flash after a few seconds from opening the door with the key? Common fault for sirens to fail.

No, nothing at all.  Obviously no ultrasonics or button on the pillar either.  I panicked at first, but I read through everything on the Admiral website and there was absolutely no mention of alarms so I guess they don't care, makes sense, who pays any attention to a car alarm these days!? 
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 24, 2012, 07:43:25 am
Indicators flash - button on pillar - red flashing led on door card when locked. Couldn't see any motion sensors in roof lining but only had a seconds look as late for work. So I have an alarm then?
Cheers
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 07:47:32 am
Indicators flash - button on pillar - red flashing led on door card when locked. Couldn't see any motion sensors in roof lining but only had a seconds look as late for work. So I have an alarm then?
Cheers

Indicators flash when?  When you open the doors from the inside after locking or just when you lock the car?  If you have the button on the pillar then yes you have an alarm.  Red flashing led is not a sign by itself, mine has this and flashes when the immobiliser is set.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 24, 2012, 08:08:33 am
Indicators flash when I lock or unlock using the key fob - not tried from inside the car yet. Will try the locking the car whilst in it and waving my arms round like a nutter technique later (may wait till its dark!).
Cheers again for all the help with this
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: ConorF on October 24, 2012, 09:32:31 am
Lock it, sit your dog in it and call him, hell jump and alarm should sound.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: RedRobin on October 24, 2012, 10:09:57 am

Is there a way to find out where the car came from as I don't have proof where mine came from.  Dealer says it was shipped direct from Germany to UK, vague!


....Mk5 GTI's were built to order in Wolfsburg, Germany and shipped direct to a UK port for registration here, but those cars aren't called "imports". Some of course were shipped to other countries for use there and if then later to the UK, they're called imports.

The ones to avoid in particular are those which had been parked up for months in the desert environments of the Middle East. I remember seeing pics of an engine bay covered in sand!

Those who bought imports need only register them with a UK VW dealer to gain the same benefits but I think the VW warranty was shorter. Oh yes, and I now remember that my genuine Monza 18's came from an import (via Oli who has a car business) and VW UK refused to repair the white worm under warranty giving the import factor as a reason.

This takes me back to remembering that seemingly endless 12 week wait for mine to arrive. She was built week beginning 11th July 2005 to an 06 spec  :love:
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 01:50:32 pm
Indicators flash when I lock or unlock using the key fob - not tried from inside the car yet. Will try the locking the car whilst in it and waving my arms round like a nutter technique later (may wait till its dark!).
Cheers again for all the help with this

Flashing lights with the key fob is standard regardless of alarm, mine does that.  If your car does have the button on the pillar by the drivers seat the you must have ana alarm, if so then maybe your alarm or siren is just broken.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 24, 2012, 02:54:15 pm
Will test alarm later.
Rang VW uk - car was built in Wolfsburg. It is a German import - PDI done in REine. 1st registered I uk - no sitting around anywhere - straight from production to uk by a company called euro imports.
I'm confused as surely all VWs are German imports then?!
Anyhow car registered since new with VW uk so all good.
Only issue is I can't get a build number plaque as its a German import - even though it was built in the same factory?
Other than that I'm happy enough
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: RedRobin on October 24, 2012, 03:02:49 pm

I'm confused as surely all VWs are German imports then?!


....I repeat:


....Mk5 GTI's were built to order in Wolfsburg, Germany and shipped direct to a UK port for registration here, but those cars aren't called "imports". Some of course were shipped to other countries for use there and if then later to the UK, they're called imports.

Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 24, 2012, 03:10:57 pm
They are all imports, but Only cars that are imported by VW UK are not imports.

VW UK would decide on the standard specification and what options are available for that model.

Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: JJ on October 24, 2012, 03:18:48 pm
Sheize!  This thread has got me wondering now as I've never heard my alarm sound.

My GTi has got the button at bottom of the B-pillar, red LED on the door but I have no supersonic sensor on the passenger side pillar or whatever.  If I lock myself in the car and wave my arms in the air like I just don't care, I get no siren wailage.  I've thumbed through the paperwork given to me by a previous owner and there's one from the supplying VW dealer dated 6 months after the car was registered entitled "Used Car Preperation" and states "Remove Non Factory Alarm 5051".  

The questions I am now asking myself are did someone fit a non-factory alarm  because it came out of the factory without one?  What does the sounder look like and whereabouts under the bonnet do they bolt it?

EDIT:  I do have the sensors inside - was looking in the wrong place!  :ashamed:  Would still be interested in locating the sounder though.  I've had a quick look under the bonnet but can't see owt that looks like.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 24, 2012, 05:19:12 pm
it is behind the wheel arch liner on the drivers side, if you open the driver door and look between the gap where the wing is you should see an aluminium box
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 07:14:09 pm
Rang VW uk - car was built in Wolfsburg. It is a German import - PDI done in REine. 1st registered I uk - no sitting around anywhere - straight from production to uk by a company called euro imports.
I'm confused as surely all VWs are German imports then?!
Anyhow car registered since new with VW uk so all good.
What number did you ring & who did you need to speak to? Plus what info did they need off you?

I want to check my car out, alledgely it was imported from new to UK but I don't know where PDI was done as its not stamped in the book. 
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: Markydee on October 24, 2012, 07:26:31 pm
Just rang VW customer services - 0844 3754625. Just gave vin no but all my info in device book re PDI. VW confirmed German import.

Alarm present and working correctly
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 07:28:05 pm
I've just realised, having annoyed the neighbours!, thatmy car does have an alarm after all, I did the test wrong!!

So here's how to test properly.  Lock you car with the remote.  Wait a few seconds until red light on the door trim flashes.

Unlock the drivers door using your key.  Open the door and leave it open.  The interior lights should come on but the red light will keep flashing!!

Wait 15 seconds, as long as you don't put the key in the ignition the alarm will go off.

Be ready to jump, it's bloody loud when your not expecting it!!

Just to reiterate, my car does NOT have the button on the pillar.  That means my car does have an alarm but doesn't have the 'monitoring system and anti-tow alarm'.
Title: Re: Euro import - no alarm?
Post by: f1fan on October 24, 2012, 07:30:09 pm
Just rang VW customer services - 0844 3754625. Just gave vin no but all my info in device book re PDI. VW confirmed German import.
Thanks, would like an official word from VW and find out where the PDI took place.