MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: scottm72 on November 22, 2012, 09:18:38 pm
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this is a thread from a thread :surprised:
after looking at diff rear clusters out there I have stupidly mistaken after market lights for oem ones and especially led strip mk6 ones on e-bay for oem :stupid:
yeah I know,,,,
anyway I would like to clarify exactly what rear clusters out there ARE oem and will fit the mk5
as far as I am told no mk6 lights will fit the mk5 so only interested in mk5 oem ones
all I know so far is the following, would really help if any comments came with a pic so I can narrow it down
going onto a black gti
OEM ONLY PLEASE
r32 rears
ed30 rears
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The R32 and ED 30 are one and the same.
You have a choice of 3 OEM
The Pinkie standars you have the dark red ED30/R32 and the LEDS as below
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FCanon_550D_pics%2FIMG_0422.jpg&hash=baab2ba9d38de164d66339ec661ee367b00a26c0)
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The R32 and ED 30 are one and the same.
You have a choice of 3 OEM
The Pinkie standars you have the dark red ED30/R32 and the LEDS as below
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FCanon_550D_pics%2FIMG_0422.jpg&hash=baab2ba9d38de164d66339ec661ee367b00a26c0)
I love that pic of your old car :drool:
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The R32 and ED 30 are one and the same.
You have a choice of 3 OEM
The Pinkie standars you have the dark red ED30/R32 and the LEDS as below
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FCanon_550D_pics%2FIMG_0422.jpg&hash=baab2ba9d38de164d66339ec661ee367b00a26c0)
I love that pic of your old car :drool:
thanks for that, so only 3 then as you say, in your opinion do most owners prefer to stay oem,
love that pic by the way,,, bet you got a hell of a lot of looks with that plate, bet it cost a fortune as well
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The R32 and ED 30 are one and the same.
You have a choice of 3 OEM
The Pinkie standars you have the dark red ED30/R32 and the LEDS as below
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FCanon_550D_pics%2FIMG_0422.jpg&hash=baab2ba9d38de164d66339ec661ee367b00a26c0)
I love that pic of your old car :drool:
+1
Very sxy :happy2:
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There are some variations for US spec cars and maybe other regions but i think the only changes are they haven't got rear fog lights and little changes like that but all come in the usual flavours of normal, r32/ed30 and I think rear led was Europe only
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I would go with what you like best, You can get the pinkies sprayed by a bodyshop to the exact shade as the R32 ones for little moniez.
You are a bit of a mad modder and starting down a path that i have seen many go down. :laugh:
Rather than just buying every mod that takes your fancy sit down for an evening and come up with a final idea of what you want the car to be like. You can do this by looking at hundreds of pics and spending time reading and not buying. :innocent:
This will save you hundreds in the long run as you will end up selling lots of your early mods. :wink:
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so if there is 3 choices
pinky standard ones on most gti's
r32 / ed30 ( same ones ) on these cars
and the led ones
correct ?????
if so, what model did the led ones come on ? or where they optional extras on all models ?
def only 3 options on oem then,,, us as well ?
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The LEDS were on European Golfs, thats why you have to swap the fogs. :happy2:
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Led ones were an optional extra for mainland Europe (VW uk didn't give us the option). Most people buy them from Germany then do the rear fog mod (swap the fog and reverse light over they are on opposite sides as they are made for Europe).
UK get 2 different OEM where as Europe got 3.
Edit: beat by TC lol
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What do you want from your lighs, are you after changing your GTI clusters for looks or better light output?
Rear clusters on a R32 (same ones as Edition30 as well). On a black car for you.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F8f62c5cc9f31bc0dbc5b666a998a7b02.jpg&hash=b7eb3bf9150ba18b3b9c36316ecd776b6aae1f18)
and LED rears..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F3c59185f23befba54a3dcd50e66c5409.jpg&hash=3467b9fb4dc4ed589efe60beb577ee43dd9c26ca)
I'm getting my LED units from here....
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tuning-styling-vw-golf-5-v-led-rear-lights-set-candy-red-for-vw-golf-5-v.htm
Have seen them from the same seller on eBay for cheaper but not selling any at the moment. Come up for sale on here every now and again.
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As MC said above Kunzmann seem to be the place to get them.
TC gives some good advice of sitting down and deciding the route you want to go. Heres a couple of pics of mine with various lights and where I got inspiration from for my mods:
Standard lights
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi55.tinypic.com%2F2ylk4yb.jpg&hash=d268c1834700e98a26635c8c42bc89628c90cd85)
See this
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsrs-tec.de%2Fcars%2Fimages%2Fproduct_images%2Fpopup_images%2F235_0.jpg&hash=b03f69c1eadebc4e36da821fa4af880d117fe8c9)
And Robins
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_rear_20June08.jpg&hash=9a8a464f53012ad221e98dc6a4e3dab1bc329378)
Then ended up with this
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2F315ekco.jpg&hash=3edfed666fc5b9672fb0c0fac55b1eb634112888)
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What do you want from your lighs, are you after changing your GTI clusters for looks or better light output?
Rear clusters on a R32 (same ones as Edition30 as well). On a black car for you.....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F8f62c5cc9f31bc0dbc5b666a998a7b02.jpg&hash=b7eb3bf9150ba18b3b9c36316ecd776b6aae1f18)
and LED rears..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F3c59185f23befba54a3dcd50e66c5409.jpg&hash=3467b9fb4dc4ed589efe60beb577ee43dd9c26ca)
I'm getting my LED units from here....
http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tuning-styling-vw-golf-5-v-led-rear-lights-set-candy-red-for-vw-golf-5-v.htm
Have seen them from the same seller on eBay for cheaper but not selling any at the moment. Come up for sale on here every now and again.
thanks for that, I understand now, silly me thinking there was about 8 diff oem clusters to choose from, thanks for that guys
going to go for the led ones same as you mc,
have you actually bought them yet ?
are you going to use the site on the link to get them as well,,,,, 341 euros,,,, I guess you have already searched about for prices.
will there be an import charge if we buy from there ?
I am assuming they will need to be opened and swapped over inside for the fogs etc ? also do they need coded by vcds do you know.
after that is it just plug and play with the install, I have heard that it is very easy to take the old ones out and replace, is this right buddy
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No import charge as its from the european union, just 15euro postage if your getting them from Kunzmann.
And yes you would need to do the fog light swap or just take the red reflector out and use a coloured bulb for the fog.
They are plug and play but it is advisable to get someone with vcds to disable the bulb monitoring as this can cause the leds to flicker on start up and shorten the life of them and could cause premature failure of the units
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Love the LED rears and the R32 rear end :happy2:
Mine which was fitted last week:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo792%2Fkalpsn2000%2Fc0e43de359b8811e663388f8d8f11b62-1-1.jpg&hash=cfe215cb402c04952a6a0a3b447a13a2451d4c9b)
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^^^^ looks really good fella, you must be chuffed. Lot of work getting it to look like that. :happy2:
Pretty sure (now) that I'm going for an R32 rear on my Eddy and after seeing Top Cat's pic of his old car I will be getting the 2 sections joined and smoothed.
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No import charge as its from the european union, just 15euro postage if your getting them from Kunzmann.
And yes you would need to do the fog light swap or just take the red reflector out and use a coloured bulb for the fog.
They are plug and play but it is advisable to get someone with vcds to disable the bulb monitoring as this can cause the leds to flicker on start up and shorten the life of them and could cause premature failure of the units
gotcha, thanks for that, would like to see the diff on a cer with swapped units and one with the fog light bulb and reflector replaced as I am not understanding the diff
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^^^^ looks really good fella, you must be chuffed. Lot of work getting it to look like that. :happy2:
Pretty sure (now) that I'm going for an R32 rear on my Eddy and after seeing Top Cat's pic of his old car I will be getting the 2 sections joined and smoothed.
Thanks mate. Yes really love the new look. Its how I've wanted it since getting the GTI :happy2:
I also prefer the smoothed look but will have to leave that for now.
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Scott, read this, reply 347.....
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2823.345.html
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^^^^ looks really good fella, you must be chuffed. Lot of work getting it to look like that. :happy2:
Pretty sure (now) that I'm going for an R32 rear on my Eddy and after seeing Top Cat's pic of his old car I will be getting the 2 sections joined and smoothed.
Thanks mate. Yes really love the new look. Its how I wanted it sice getting the GTI now :happy2:
I also prefer the smoothed look but will have to leave that for now.
I know, where does it end?? :laugh:
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sorry guys I must have missed something, what do you mean joined and smoothed ?
whats joined and smoothed lol
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^^^^ both bumper sections smoothed (Valeo clusters fitted as well).....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fb2cb08db09abfb93493370d5943a121b.jpg&hash=5d536fd5c1c4d1b79436f2e1a19526ab85bda615)
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^^^^ looks really good fella, you must be chuffed. Lot of work getting it to look like that. :happy2:
Pretty sure (now) that I'm going for an R32 rear on my Eddy and after seeing Top Cat's pic of his old car I will be getting the 2 sections joined and smoothed.
MC71 i would be interested in your eddy rear valance to fit on my tornado red gt tdi sport, when you get around to the R32 rear end. :drinking:
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^^^^ sorry but it will be going into storage in the garage for when the car gets returned to standard (one day)!
No idea of the quality but you could go for a non OEM one from eBay.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk5-Rear-Bumper-Spoiler-Edition-30-NKTuning-/150595541746?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2310319af2
Geniune ED30 lower bumper section with integrated valance is about £300+ IIRC from VW. They do pop up on here every now and again for about half that, usually.
Cheers, Martin
:drinking:
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Hey,
Sorry to resurrect this but are these http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tuning-styling-vw-golf-5-v-led-rear-lights-set-candy-red-for-vw-golf-5-v.htm darker than the original OEM cherry red lights?
Thanks :happy2:
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Hey,
Sorry to resurrect this but are these http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/tuning-styling-vw-golf-5-v-led-rear-lights-set-candy-red-for-vw-golf-5-v.htm darker than the original OEM cherry red lights?
Thanks :happy2:
no apologies needed for resurrecting the main thread subject, it has went a bit sideways after all
I think these lights are just the standard European led rears, not available here and as far as I can tell will have to ALL be swapped over with regards to the fog and reverse light being on the wrong sides.
a few ways to do this as im sure you already know, there was a company on e-bay selling the very dark ones although they are modified by the company selling them, as far as I know this is the only company currently selling the dark ones but saying that they are very unhelpfull, not rude just very slow at replies and they do not have the dark ones for sale at the moment with no ideas as to the likelihood of more stock in the future
if you like I can give you the link to their web site and they currently run a shop on e-bay,, I think it is called aks tuning but I would need to check this if you are interested.
the link you supplied looks like the standard cherry shading as the item title suggests.
if anyone knows of anywhere that currently sells the darker versions of these lights, and if they have done the lights darker I would assume they have already swapped the interior bulbs for uk cars then let me know as I cant find anywhere and have only seen 1 car with these fitted
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They are darker than the OEM gti lights, they are roughly the same as the darker ed30/r32 lights. Pivot them in my build thread in various light and loads of others builds on the forum.
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Scott, it's not AKS tuning, that's Alex on here and I don't believe he has an eBay shop but he def doesn't do these lights
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Scott, it's not AKS tuning, that's Alex on here and I don't believe he has an eBay shop but he def doesn't do these lights
sorry you are right it is bks tuning
also replying to other reply are you saying there is different variations with regards to the darkness of the red surrounds on oem European led rear clusters ?
is this right, as my problem with the cherry red ones is they are just a bit to red and I would be interested in darker ones but need to be oem
cheers
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The LED OEM ones only come in one colour and that is the colour they are on my car, robins car etc. The black ones on Nicks R32 are modified oem ones that have been tinted to black.
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The LED OEM ones only come in one colour and that is the colour they are on my car, robins car etc. The black ones on Nicks R32 are modified oem ones that have been tinted to black.
ok they only come in one shade, got that, next question is does anyone know of any company that sells these that have been tinted to a darker shade ?
not that I mind the way they come but just want to check that.
secondly, I see from your picture that you have the right side fog light inner reflector still there, is it still this way as I have asked a few times without anyone being able to tell me if I was just to remove the red reflector from the right side unit and put in a red bulb would I then need to buy and put in place a clear reflector for that side, hence being able to have both inner sides displaying identical clear reflectors ?
also when you engage reverse the wrong side is then still going to light up isn't it, do you then just change the coding in vcds so the car knows what it is doing ?
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Uk cars are wired up different to eu cars so regardless to what bulbs you have in, if you put your reverse light on the passenger side would light up, if you put the fog light on the drivers side would light up.
Tinting is something you would probably have to do yourself unless you could find a company to do it for you.
I've never known anyone to buy a clear rear reflector when they have put a red fog bulb in, plus I don't think you can get them anyway
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Thanks for your help guys, I thought they were a bit darker, that's the main reason I want to change, I take it they're E-Marked - road legal no MOT issues (obv. swap the fog) ?
thanks
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Uk cars are wired up different to eu cars so regardless to what bulbs you have in, if you put your reverse light on the passenger side would light up, if you put the fog light on the drivers side would light up.
Tinting is something you would probably have to do yourself unless you could find a company to do it for you.
I've never known anyone to buy a clear rear reflector when they have put a red fog bulb in, plus I don't think you can get them anyway
ok I don't get this, people buy these units and everyone needs to swap over the internal bits to make the right thing light up when in reverse etc,,, I get this.
what I don't get is some people on this forum have modified the lights so the inner reflectors are both WHITE
now I am told they just put a red bulb in and remove the red reflector but that is as much information I have and cant seem to get anyone to elaborate on this ??
having both inner reflectors the same clear colour looks more symmetrical as far as I can see but how you do this exactly I do not know.
this is what I am trying to figure out so apologies for the unclear version of what I am trying to do before.
any ideas on this please
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Ok guys....Who's got a link for these...seriously want them....(UK ONLY tho)....Thanks guys
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Uk cars are wired up different to eu cars so regardless to what bulbs you have in, if you put your reverse light on the passenger side would light up, if you put the fog light on the drivers side would light up.
Tinting is something you would probably have to do yourself unless you could find a company to do it for you.
I've never known anyone to buy a clear rear reflector when they have put a red fog bulb in, plus I don't think you can get them anyway
ok I don't get this, people buy these units and everyone needs to swap over the internal bits to make the right thing light up when in reverse etc,,, I get this.
what I don't get is some people on this forum have modified the lights so the inner reflectors are both WHITE
now I am told they just put a red bulb in and remove the red reflector but that is as much information I have and cant seem to get anyone to elaborate on this ??
having both inner reflectors the same clear colour looks more symmetrical as far as I can see but how you do this exactly I do not know.
this is what I am trying to figure out so apologies for the unclear version of what I am trying to do before.
any ideas on this please
Your making this WAY to complicated bud. :grin:
The single red reflector is removed, that's it, nothing else in terms of modifying the unit. Clear bulb is then removed and replaced with a red bulb for the fog light. It will "appear" they are both clear, that's all, no biggy.
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Ok guys....Who's got a link for these...seriously want them....(UK ONLY tho)....Thanks guys
There not UK units, they need modifying. Read the thread.
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E-marked? MOT? :sad1:
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Uk cars are wired up different to eu cars so regardless to what bulbs you have in, if you put your reverse light on the passenger side would light up, if you put the fog light on the drivers side would light up.
Tinting is something you would probably have to do yourself unless you could find a company to do it for you.
I've never known anyone to buy a clear rear reflector when they have put a red fog bulb in, plus I don't think you can get them anyway
ok I don't get this, people buy these units and everyone needs to swap over the internal bits to make the right thing light up when in reverse etc,,, I get this.
what I don't get is some people on this forum have modified the lights so the inner reflectors are both WHITE
now I am told they just put a red bulb in and remove the red reflector but that is as much information I have and cant seem to get anyone to elaborate on this ??
having both inner reflectors the same clear colour looks more symmetrical as far as I can see but how you do this exactly I do not know.
this is what I am trying to figure out so apologies for the unclear version of what I am trying to do before.
any ideas on this please
Your making this WAY to complicated bud. :grin:
The single red reflector is removed, that's it, nothing else in terms of modifying the unit. Clear bulb is then removed and replaced with a red bulb for the fog light. It will "appear" they are both clear, that's all, no biggy.
not me making it complicated but people trying to explain it before not making sense, now that you have explained it in 2 simple lines I understand so thanks for that.
any ideas as to exactly what bulb is needed to replace the white one ?
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Ok guys....Who's got a link for these...seriously want them....(UK ONLY tho)....Thanks guys
There not UK units, they need modifying. Read the thread.
Ok MC, i get it now...good explanation. So it that the main place to buy them from? and like the other guy said...any particular bulb needed?