MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: GTI-Ross on December 19, 2012, 10:30:04 pm
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Hey up guys. Ive had my GTI just over a month now....its a DSG. Loved the gear box...and i think i still do. Trying to work out if i miss going through the gears on empty sweeping roads.
As much as i love the DSG ( been in 6th gear at 50 cruzing around) cant put my finger on whats missing....Have i made a mistake not getting manual or will this feeling pass? :stupid:
Only time will tell i guess.....any one in the same boat?
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Use the paddles more.... :happy2:
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Use the paddles more.... :happy2:
I dont mind up changing with Paddles or trip-tronic, just down shift doesnt feel natural. when using paddle the whole MFD should show what gear yu are in, i know you can tell by the feel, but when changing down 2 or 3 gears going into a corner, would be nice to see it clear, rather than a pissy little number on the MFD :smiley:
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Yeah i know what you mean.... you just have to get used to 'counting' gears and remembering what gear you are in.
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Yeah feel the same about down changes.
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Use the paddles more.... :happy2:
I dont mind up changing with Paddles or trip-tronic, just down shift doesnt feel natural. when using paddle the whole MFD should show what gear yu are in, i know you can tell by the feel, but when changing down 2 or 3 gears going into a corner, would be nice to see it clear, rather than a pissy little number on the MFD :smiley:
Why has no company designed a a dial (same size as a boost gauge ) to show what gear you are in...it would sell like hot cakes....
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Im sure its possible. Its a shame like you say, that there is no option for a big number display to show gear number.
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Swap with my manual?!
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Swap with my manual?!
lol, whats your specs....i think i would actually swap with somebody if it was nearly the same as mine but manual :rolleye:
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Lol that's the problem.
Standard steel grey. 07 plate 50k.
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Whereas a large gear display would be great, can't you tell what's going on by the revs, what you can hear and how the car is behaving?
Just Think Manual and shift gears exactly at the same times you would in a conventional manual transmission. Relying on the torque isn't good for an engine - Don't be lazy and use your gears to the optimum. [Addressing those who don't rather than anyone in particular]
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Get it modded for more power, DSG comes into it's own when you've got more boost! :)
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Get it modded for more power, DSG comes into it's own when you've got more boost! :)
....Boost! Yum-yum! :party:
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where i feel i may miss changing gears, all disappears when 90% of the time on the roads is spent in stop start traffic.
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where i feel i may miss changing gears, all disappears when 90% of the time on the roads is spent in stop start traffic.
....That's unfortunate that your lifestyle at this time places you in those road circumstances - I sympathise. I'm both lucky and privileged enough to have the opposite and probably only spend less than 5% of journeys in stop-start traffic, but when that happens, DSG is a very big bonus. Location is a big factor.
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where i feel i may miss changing gears, all disappears when 90% of the time on the roads is spent in stop start traffic.
See i was hoping that would be the case, just dont know if it is.....I love changing gears with a stick...the only benefit of DSG is better mileage.
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I am not saying anything :innocent: I hate Dsg boring :signLOL:
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I am not saying anything :innocent: I hate Dsg boring :signLOL:
I didnt find it boring NOT having to shell out 1000 quid for a new clutch after my remap...... :P
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I didn't :P
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Good. :happy2:
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I love changing gears with a stick...the only benefit of DSG is better mileage.
....Go with what you love best but don't dismiss DSG without trying it. I never use DSG's stick by tiptronically nudging it to shift gear - It doesn't feel right but the flappy paddles do feel right for some reason.
As far as I'm concerned the process of driving is that my brain digests all the road conditions and my car status and sounds it can gather and I 'think manual' and engage an appropriate gear as quickly as I can. The DSG delivers what I ask the car to do (in M-mode, not automatic D-mode of course) faster than any human can and 100% faultlessly.
DSG doesn't give better mpg unless you are in D-mode the whole time but that, as Mat says, is boring - Very boring indeed! Think Manual but Drive DSG (in M-mode except where D is an advantage).
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where i feel i may miss changing gears, all disappears when 90% of the time on the roads is spent in stop start traffic.
Yeah I end up in this situation quite a lot, although more like 60-70% of the time. This is where I really appreciate DSG...used to really hate traffic jams in my previous manual car.
I have also noticed that since getting the BCS TBE fitted I am using M mode more often now...love the sound on boost :jumping:
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Get it modded for more power, DSG comes into it's own when you've got more boost! :)
I am planning on going to stage 1 in the next month or so...can't wait :party:
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I am not saying anything :innocent: I hate Dsg boring :signLOL:
I didnt find it boring NOT having to shell out 1000 quid for a new clutch after my remap...... :P
you spent the extra cash on the DSG box in the fist place Rich :signLOL:
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Touche!
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I have to say, I have nothing against DSG (and because of a dodgy left ankle my next car will probably be one), but I love the Golf's manual gearbox. It has a lovely action, and it does feel great going up or down the gears.
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I have to say, I have nothing against DSG (and because of a dodgy left ankle my next car will probably be one), but I love the Golf's manual gearbox. It has a lovely action, and it does feel great going up or down the gears.
.... :happy2: You're right and there's no right or wrong about this but it's simply about which you personally prefer.
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I have to say, I have nothing against DSG (and because of a dodgy left ankle my next car will probably be one), but I love the Golf's manual gearbox. It has a lovely action, and it does feel great going up or down the gears.
.... :happy2: You're right and there's no right or wrong about this but it's simply about which you personally prefer.
This is probably a good quote to save somewhere for when the next Manual vs DSG thread comes up (inevitable in the next few weeks :wink:)
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Hey up guys. Ive had my GTI just over a month now....its a DSG. Loved the gear box...and i think i still do. Trying to work out if i miss going through the gears on empty sweeping roads.
As much as i love the DSG ( been in 6th gear at 50 cruzing around) cant put my finger on whats missing....Have i made a mistake not getting manual or will this feeling pass? :stupid:
Only time will tell i guess.....any one in the same boat?
This is exactly what would happen to me if I got a DSG.
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i think i will just have to use the paddles more. I think the main reason why i find it hard is because i always drive with my left hand on the gear stick. I still drive around with my left hand on it when im just in drive mode.
I find it very weird having both hands on the wheels unless im hitting a sweeping bend at speed. I think that why i find down shifting with the paddles very odd and not natural.....
Hopefully over time i will enjoy it.
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i think i will just have to use the paddles more. I think the main reason why i find it hard is because i always drive with my left hand on the gear stick. I still drive around with my left hand on it when im just in drive mode.
I find it very weird having both hands on the wheels unless im hitting a sweeping bend at speed. I think that why i find down shifting with the paddles very odd and not natural.....
Hopefully over time i will enjoy it.
....I was exactly the same and I still tend to drive with my left hand on the floor stick when driving a conventional manual - More quickly ready to shift a gear.
But the DSG paddles have broken that habit when I'm driving any car with paddles. The great thing about the Mk5 GTI steering wheel is that it's ergonomically shaped so that your fingers naturally rest in the right position.
What further helps gear shifting on DSG are paddle extensions - Mandy sells them, PM her :happy2:
These are mine (expensive TID's before Mandy's were ever available...........
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FfingersJPG.jpg&hash=41e00ec509bbc2a7bb193db1005bfe8800c07159)
^ They simply stick on and, no, they don't fall off!
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i think i will just have to use the paddles more. I think the main reason why i find it hard is because i always drive with my left hand on the gear stick. I still drive around with my left hand on it when im just in drive mode.
I find it very weird having both hands on the wheels unless im hitting a sweeping bend at speed. I think that why i find down shifting with the paddles very odd and not natural.....
Hopefully over time i will enjoy it.
....I was exactly the same and I still tend to drive with my left hand on the floor stick when driving a conventional manual - More quickly ready to shift a gear.
But the DSG paddles have broken that habit when I'm driving any car with paddles. The great thing about the Mk5 GTI steering wheel is that it's ergonomically shaped so that your fingers naturally rest in the right position.
What further helps gear shifting on DSG are paddle extensions - Mandy sells them, PM her :happy2:
These are mine (expensive TID's before Mandy's were ever available...........
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FfingersJPG.jpg&hash=41e00ec509bbc2a7bb193db1005bfe8800c07159)
^ They simply stick on and, no, they don't fall off!
Hey, yeah i got those of Mandy a few weeks back. still the same issue, just doesnt feel normal / relaxing having both hands on the wheel. Thats why i have been using the trip-tronic a bit more. Again though, it feels a bit neutral, there should be a click or something that give you the feel that you have just shifted....
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Hey, yeah i got those of Mandy a few weeks back. still the same issue, just doesnt feel normal / relaxing having both hands on the wheel. Thats why i have been using the trip-tronic a bit more. Again though, it feels a bit neutral, there should be a click or something that give you the feel that you have just shifted....
....That's exactly what I don't like about the GTI's tiptronic floor shift - There's no feedback such as even a click to relate to and it's partly why I never use it. Also it's Up and Down a gear direction seems the wrong way around.
The other reason is though that having the paddles at one's fingertips while at the same time having both hands on the wheel is far safer when driving very hard, IMO.
If you think positively about DSG and put aside any specific expectations I think you'll enjoy it more and it will become fluid and second nature to you. Personally I now would never consider owning another car without DSG or an equivalent system with flappy paddles.