MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: SAL on February 11, 2013, 06:18:26 pm
Have you got more power? For examaple a remap?

Or have you done more like exhaust, intercooler etc?

I have a caddy 2.0 140 on order and want to find out what people are doing with them, Is the S3 intercooler something to consider?
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Andy on February 11, 2013, 06:37:46 pm
a remap is the easiest way to go but then you will find the brakes need upgrading.The exhaust  will make it rev better if you decay it.The standard intetcooler is fine with just a remap but if you are going down the hybrid turbo route like mine is then its best to change the intetcooler
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: SAL on February 11, 2013, 06:40:59 pm
Doubt I will hybrid it to be honest! Defo want it mapped. Problem is I want it mapped properly!
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Andy on February 11, 2013, 06:45:30 pm
Doubt I will hybrid it to be honest! Defo want it mapped. Problem is I want it mapped properly!
there is some good company's out there that can do them.I had a r tech map on mine and it was very good
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: DFish on February 11, 2013, 06:57:25 pm
Started with a remap and went from there.... You also wont need to worry about installing an S3 cooler until after a hybrid.

Fish
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: andybon on February 11, 2013, 07:31:40 pm
I have a remap on mine done by Awesome GTI. Perfect for how I want the car. Unsure on what power its putting out after the remap though.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Unicorn on February 11, 2013, 09:12:29 pm
The remap gives you the single biggest benefit.  You can start with intercoolers, bigger injectors, hybrid turbos etc but it starts becoming hugely expensive, and puts a lot of strain on the transmission, engine mounts etc. 

Rick
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: SAL on February 11, 2013, 09:25:43 pm
Ok, I'm sure the map will get done ASAP but I want to get past the 200 mark at least!
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Andy on February 11, 2013, 09:47:42 pm
with a map it will be about 185..
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Jibba on February 11, 2013, 09:58:27 pm
I've got a 2.0 140 and I once was thinking the same 200+ but it gets really expensive to crack that and as I've learnt it's really not best to go chasing figures. Get a straight through exhaust and a remap to start it'll put u in the 180+bhps but can increase torque to 450nm! This is immense torque and will fry your clutch quickly if you use it too early. It all depends what you want. If you want the 200bhp then your looking at a hybrid turbo, intercooler, (eventually)updated clutch, custom remap to suit it all oh and bigger brakes so you can stop.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Andy on February 11, 2013, 10:05:42 pm
I've got a 2.0 140 and I once was thinking the same 200+ but it gets really expensive to crack that and as I've learnt it's really not best to go chasing figures. Get a straight through exhaust and a remap to start it'll put u in the 180+bhps but can increase torque to 450nm! This is immense torque and will fry your clutch quickly if you use it too early. It all depends what you want. If you want the 200bhp then your looking at a hybrid turbo, intercooler, (eventually)updated clutch, custom remap to suit it all oh and bigger brakes so you can stop.
i have done all the above;Its now running 203 on a hybrid  turbo  but on a torque limit on the map to stop clutch slipping.Goes into awesome gti in May to get the clutch and fly wheel done and change the intercooler;then get the map turned up
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: PDT on February 12, 2013, 09:26:44 am
when you say 'on order' is it a new van? if so, the new 136/140/143 bhp common rail engines will tune to 190bhp and 300 ftlb from a stg1 and with dpf removal stg2 will see 220bhp and 340ftlb.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: DFish on February 12, 2013, 09:59:44 am
You dont need the intercooler for over 200, trust me as I'm running over without. Hybrid, map, clutch and exhaust does that.

Fish
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Andy on February 12, 2013, 10:04:51 am
You dont need the intercooler for over 200, trust me as I'm running over without. Hybrid, map, clutch and exhaust does that.

Fish
x2
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 12, 2013, 10:59:25 am
Check out these guys:

http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/

They specialise in VAG diesel tuning. The sky is the limit with yours, 300+ bhp if youve got deep pockets. . . :happy2:
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: daboy3000 on February 12, 2013, 04:16:00 pm
I've remapped with AMD, de-catted and have a GTi backbox, i'm was around the 200bhp mark last time it was on the rollers, since then I have replaced the turbo and it goes a little quicker now.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 12, 2013, 05:12:30 pm
My turbo exploded soon after i had my remap..... i think that was my driving though  :signLOL:
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Unicorn on February 12, 2013, 10:53:41 pm
Ok, I'm sure the map will get done ASAP but I want to get past the 200 mark at least!

Which car/year/engine is it you are looking at?

200hp is not simple, sure it can be done but a new turbo is needed as a minimum.  I'd  suggest that maybe you buy something with more power as standard if you're determined for over 200hp :)

Rick
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: A1dan2.0tdisport on February 12, 2013, 11:13:42 pm
I'm just about to look into going for a remap. What's people's verdict on places to go.

Heard a lot of good about darkside. But a little more expensive than other places.

R-tech I have heard good about. Little
Bit cheaper. ;)

What's people's thoughts? Or experiences?

Aidan
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Unicorn on February 12, 2013, 11:30:20 pm
Depends where you are based I guess!
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: A1dan2.0tdisport on February 13, 2013, 04:28:59 pm
Depends where you are based I guess!

live in Sheffield, Work in Yeovil Somerset so I commute quite a distance and over a few different areas. :)
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 13, 2013, 04:32:37 pm
I've remapped with AMD, de-catted and have a GTi backbox, i'm was around the 200bhp mark last time it was on the rollers, since then I have replaced the turbo and it goes a little quicker now.

Was that on AMD's rollers though?  :laugh:
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 13, 2013, 04:34:08 pm
I'm just about to look into going for a remap. What's people's verdict on places to go.

Heard a lot of good about darkside. But a little more expensive than other places.

R-tech I have heard good about. Little
Bit cheaper. ;)

What's people's thoughts? Or experiences?

Aidan

Go to R-Tech. Nuff said really. They are very highly recommended on the forum (I was pleased with my map from them).  :happy2:
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: kevinm on February 13, 2013, 08:45:54 pm
when you say 'on order' is it a new van? if so, the new 136/140/143 bhp common rail engines will tune to 190bhp and 300 ftlb from a stg1 and with dpf removal stg2 will see 220bhp and 340ftlb.

Is this the same engine fitted to mk6 golfs?
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: micky 32 on February 13, 2013, 09:14:31 pm
when you say 'on order' is it a new van? if so, the new 136/140/143 bhp common rail engines will tune to 190bhp and 300 ftlb from a stg1 and with dpf removal stg2 will see 220bhp and 340ftlb.

Is that not a bit optomistic for the 140 CR turbo? I thought them figures would be more for the 170. Interesting as i have a Passat 2.0 TDI CR 140 on order .
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: micky 32 on February 13, 2013, 09:15:15 pm
when you say 'on order' is it a new van? if so, the new 136/140/143 bhp common rail engines will tune to 190bhp and 300 ftlb from a stg1 and with dpf removal stg2 will see 220bhp and 340ftlb.

Is this the same engine fitted to mk6 golfs?

Yeah Kevin i'm sure they share the same boiler.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: daboy3000 on February 14, 2013, 10:08:07 am
I've remapped with AMD, de-catted and have a GTi backbox, i'm was around the 200bhp mark last time it was on the rollers, since then I have replaced the turbo and it goes a little quicker now.

Was that on AMD's rollers though?  :laugh:

Yeah, so in real life i'm probably at 120bhp  :confused:
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Polo6n1600i on February 16, 2013, 11:47:07 pm
There are different 2.0 tdi 140's - PD's & CR's. just had my PD done last Friday by Paul from Angel tuning. Great map - loads better mid-range, mine was bogging down badly sometimes, but that's been sorted. I'm not chasing a figure. But uprated brakes are next on my list! Along with coilovers!!
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: Biano44 on February 17, 2013, 10:39:13 am
I took my 140tdi to R-tech and came out with a 185tdi.........couldn't be happier. But......now I need better brakes so Jonny and DaveB are currently sorting it out for me! Can't wait.
Title: Re: People with the 2.0 140ps deisel
Post by: PDT on February 17, 2013, 11:20:19 am
when you say 'on order' is it a new van? if so, the new 136/140/143 bhp common rail engines will tune to 190bhp and 300 ftlb from a stg1 and with dpf removal stg2 will see 220bhp and 340ftlb.

Is that not a bit optomistic for the 140 CR turbo? I thought them figures would be more for the 170. Interesting as i have a Passat 2.0 TDI CR 140 on order .

Not at all, it's a great engine to tune and big numbers and flat torque curves are easy to achieve with lots of work on the map.