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Title: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 13, 2013, 04:42:43 pm
Thoughts


http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27112
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 13, 2013, 04:45:39 pm
Saw some pics this morning but couldn't get on the forum to post about it.

That is some serious power from a 2.0L :smiley:

I really like it :happy2:

Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: WolverineMAc on February 13, 2013, 04:51:33 pm
Same here, read about this this morning.  I like the bit about the engine is individually handbuilt by an allocated engineer from start to finish.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 13, 2013, 04:52:17 pm
so you know who to blame when it blows up  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 13, 2013, 04:59:43 pm
^^^
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Saintsteve on February 13, 2013, 05:35:56 pm
I'd have that over a 135 that's for certain... Looks superb, but wonder how much one of these with a double clutch is?  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Top Cat on February 13, 2013, 05:38:56 pm
Thoughts


http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27112

My thoughts are, who ever chose the music for the vid should be strung up by his knackers.  :fighting:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: jhtrophy on February 13, 2013, 05:40:55 pm
i like em, although thats just based on looks.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Greeners on February 13, 2013, 06:39:50 pm
Its a  :happy2: from me!

The only problem for me is it's named after the main Birmingham to Coventry road!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: dmac1969 on February 13, 2013, 07:32:54 pm
Any idea on price for this? Will it be priced to compete with the GTI or more likely the R?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: WolverineMAc on February 13, 2013, 07:36:55 pm
They are saying 36k only comes with Dct
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: dmac1969 on February 13, 2013, 07:38:35 pm
Cheers , a bit steep , I wonder if its that much better than a 135i?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: tony_danza on February 13, 2013, 07:44:35 pm
£35k I read.

I really like it, and reading how they've adapted Haldex and built the chassis really impresses me. I think the AMG will be more aimed at the 'if and when' new 1M & RS3, rather than M135i? Be interesting to see how they compare though.

Note how engine is nice and far back in the bay, lots of it behind the front axle. Turbo looks like it's off a cross channel ferry, look at the downpipe!!!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnafterli.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F06%2F02amg45thanniversary.jpg&hash=2d0ebc138b8b096c560cfbbdf530b784591f213b)
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Wild Bean on February 13, 2013, 07:45:16 pm
Ditch the cheesy music in the ad and let me hear the engine..

Ditch the cheesy turbo badge on the back I'd have to debadge it

According to the telegraph prices will start at £32,000.

I'd take one over the ugly M135i anyday..
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: chungster on February 13, 2013, 07:58:27 pm
Hmm maybe I should stop modding the R with immediate effect  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Wild Bean on February 13, 2013, 08:02:04 pm
Hmm maybe I should modding the R with immediate effect  :signLOL:

Excellent plan.. :happy2:

You want a lift to the dealers ? Orders being taken from April. :wink:

Looking forward to car swopping, I'll allow it if you get one of those  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: chungster on February 13, 2013, 08:03:51 pm
Hmm maybe I should modding the R with immediate effect  :signLOL:

Excellent plan.. :happy2:

You want a lift to the dealers ? Orders being taken from April. :wink:

Looking forward to car swopping, I'll allow it if you get one of those  :signLOL:

Suddenly I don't Want to car swap if I had the AMG  :P
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: SLIVERFOX on February 13, 2013, 08:04:26 pm
The model in the vid is close to 40 grand the seats wheels big brakes and exhaust r all extra
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: chungster on February 13, 2013, 08:07:11 pm
The model in the vid is close to 40 grand the seats wheels big brakes and exhaust r all extra

PH reckons it's standard spec! They can't put silly little brakes on an AMG model!  :confused:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: SLIVERFOX on February 13, 2013, 08:17:33 pm
Went looking on the weekend it comes with 18 and black brakes the red brakes and black alloys are extra so mr merc informed me and their r AMG specialist
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: chungster on February 13, 2013, 08:19:12 pm
Where u see this? Germany?

Oh well the BMW will kick its arse in sales then if thats the case!
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: theo on February 13, 2013, 08:25:02 pm
The new A class has a nice driving position and is a well thought out car. I really like the look of this.

Especially with the aero pack

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbsnap.com%2Fi%2Fdro1Ngmi.jpg&hash=547ec03d2fa2b9c2142ea929429dced1bd2936c2)
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: tony_danza on February 13, 2013, 08:25:46 pm
Where did you look at one? I think Merc are the only people that know, so unless anyone works for them, we're in the dark.

As Chungy says. The pics on PHs represents UK standard spec @ £36k.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: SLIVERFOX on February 13, 2013, 08:28:15 pm
Omg wish I never saw that pic lol
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: gobbleplease on February 13, 2013, 09:14:19 pm
That's a beautiful car, interior and exterior !
Mercs are really looking good this weather, pretty much all of them !
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Deako on February 13, 2013, 09:41:19 pm
All reports say that the A class drives like sh*t. Maybe the AMG will differ, but is still take an M135i.

It is a beautiful looking thing though.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Bernhard30 on February 13, 2013, 09:46:57 pm
If priced 'in the region' this will surely give new S3 and Mk 7 Golf R (if they do that in RHD) a bit of sales competition won't it.
Being 2.0L turbo, 4WD Haldex and dual clutch box.

Even though I'm VW to the core could be tempted by one these Mercs though.
Cannot personally see me driving a BM no matter how great it was. Just my view. A three pointed star on the other hand..
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Deako on February 13, 2013, 09:51:10 pm
If priced 'in the region' this will surely give new S3 and Mk 7 Golf R (if they do that in RHD) a bit of sales competition won't it.
Being 2.0L turbo, 4WD Haldex and dual clutch box.

Even though I'm VW to the core could be tempted by one these Mercs though.
Cannot personally see me driving a BM no matter how great it was. Just my view. A three pointed star on the other hand..

Then you would be missing out. 10% discount on an M135i means £27k. Better GFV and competitive finance (if you can't afford outright purchase) means they are an immense bargain at the moment. You can spec a Mk7 GT to nearly £30k with just a few modest options. Doubt there will be much discount to be had from Mercedes.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: WolverineMAc on February 13, 2013, 10:07:46 pm
can you really get a 10% discount on  bmw M135 .  Any idea of apr etc..
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Kregiel on February 13, 2013, 10:08:55 pm
great car by the looks!

but more importantly how good it drives?? AWD can be dull at handling feel but let's wait for some tests!

for now big thumb up from me  :happy2:

PAul
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: tony_danza on February 13, 2013, 10:30:37 pm
can you really get a 10% discount on  bmw M135 .  Any idea of apr etc..

Yes, I got 10% off mine + 5 year service pack. 4.9% and 55% GFV after 3 years.

Say what you like about its looks, every motoring journo's car of the year, that performance for that money - find comparable elsewhere.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: T88OMM on February 13, 2013, 11:17:29 pm
Looks fantastic. Much more appealing than the new S3, M135i etc....
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: berg on February 14, 2013, 09:12:45 am
very interested in this, looks far better than rivals but can it provide as good an all round package as the m135i?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 14, 2013, 11:03:22 am
The new A class has a nice driving position and is a well thought out car. I really like the look of this.

Especially with the aero pack

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbsnap.com%2Fi%2Fdro1Ngmi.jpg&hash=547ec03d2fa2b9c2142ea929429dced1bd2936c2)

:drool:

Kinda reminds me of the Alfa Giulietta, especially in white, although prefer the merc.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brindleslimited.co.uk%2Fcarimages%2F365_20206f.jpg&hash=bd885831123cfef09f0ce7206914fdf56979488a)

Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Deako on February 14, 2013, 11:05:59 am
Interested to see if they also release a 3dr version. The 3dr A Class comes out this year.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: chungster on February 16, 2013, 03:24:05 pm
Guess the silver fox chap is correct looking at this AMG portal

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/webspecial/a45/index_eng.php

Stock is double spoke 18s. Not sure what standard seats are then. All interior pics seem to show the optional sports seats

Lots of options as usual. Engine uses air/water charge cooler! Would like to see how the new S3 compares to this  :driver:

Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 16, 2013, 04:00:37 pm
I really like this I sat in a lhd drive a few months ago with those seats in and carbon dash on the 18s and it looked the dogs bollox to me once mapped up I think it's going to be an animal
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: rdfcpete on February 16, 2013, 05:00:26 pm
Wouldn't have dreamed for a minute that a Mercedes A-Class would ever be cool & desirable to hot hatch owners  :laugh:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Hedge on February 16, 2013, 06:58:26 pm
I'll go and have a gander at one in Mercedes Benz World.

They do look good and sound ideal.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 16, 2013, 06:59:42 pm
Serious amounts of wantness from over here..

I will be all over one of these come early net year when the BM goes. So long as it drives well and comes in under budget.. Only problem is, once the seats, red calipers, aero kit, carbon pack and other interior options are added, it's going to be a seriously expensive hatch..  :scared:

Wonder what headroom will be in that engine though? 360bhp from a 2.0, 4 bagger is a lot, but I dare say you will be on the right side of 400bhp with a cheeky map. Plus with 4wd, dual clutch box etc, it will be a fooking weapon so long as it's weight doesn't get the wrong side of a RS3.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Raffe on February 17, 2013, 08:25:43 am
The pictures leave me cold sadly, have to agree with a few others that I would prefer the M135i and a few tweaks :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Poverty on February 17, 2013, 09:51:05 am
No one else think the car looks a bit boy racer/chavvy with the aero pack?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 17, 2013, 02:14:55 pm
Better vid of it here (although not giving it enough beans for me)..



Is it me, or does it sound a little bit like the TFSI with a Milly?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Hedge on February 17, 2013, 03:29:24 pm
I guess soundwise you can only do so much with 4 cylinders, a turbo and some steel tubes.

Looks good though.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: taff-turbo on February 17, 2013, 06:49:20 pm
telling that none of the pics/vids are of the standard spec and are optioned to some degree...... (even the "milly" exhaust, probably......)
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: tony_danza on February 17, 2013, 07:02:12 pm
Seems UK spec will be much higher than Euro, those seats are standard and some other trinkets... apparently.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Poverty on February 17, 2013, 09:46:25 pm
Have you guys seen the upcoming CLA version? Now that is a looker, same chassis, slighty wider and longer than a current c-class
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: andrewparker on February 17, 2013, 10:03:16 pm
I think the CLA looks awful, to my eyes it has a very awkward shape with no fluidity to it. It goes from being slab sided and angular around the front wings and doors to outrageously curvy at the rear.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: 81lly on February 21, 2013, 03:08:22 am
Another vid...I think it looks pretty good
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Saintsteve on February 21, 2013, 08:39:25 am
Another vid...I think it looks pretty good


Doesn't sound too healthy towards the end of the video, something's whining under the bonnet  :confused:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 21, 2013, 08:56:14 am
^^^ that sounds fooked all the way through the video it's making an awful noise
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: andrewparker on February 21, 2013, 09:32:57 am
This is kind of why this car doesn't appeal to me. For me AMG is about amazing noise and driving sideways. Seems this car can't do either.

Incidentally, did anyone see the E63 4matic review on Pistonheads? 0 - 60 in 3.6 seconds for a 2 tonne plus estate car!
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: berg on February 21, 2013, 09:56:29 am
This is kind of why this car doesn't appeal to me. For me AMG is about amazing noise and driving sideways. Seems this car can't do either.

Incidentally, did anyone see the E63 4matic review on Pistonheads? 0 - 60 in 3.6 seconds for a 2 tonne plus estate car!


i will be eager to read full review in evo. hoping it will be better than m135i, but i cant see that it will be somehow  :sad1:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: andrewparker on February 21, 2013, 10:07:51 am
I just think you'll see the M3 vs C63 scenario all over again, minus the screaming V8 and power oversteer.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: berg on February 21, 2013, 10:31:01 am
I just think you'll see the M3 vs C63 scenario all over again, minus the screaming V8 and power oversteer.


so which do you think youi would plump for andrew out of - rs3, m135i or a45 amg?

i was sure the rs3 was for me.. now i think it is bottom of these 3
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: andrewparker on February 21, 2013, 10:41:43 am
I think with the RS3 the general feeling is it is looking dated now, though still highly desirable for many. There is a certain appeal to the 5-pot and the surefootedness of having 4-wheel-drive. But I'd choose a car that is entertaining, so it would be the M135i. Rumours of a face lifted version have surfaced too, so who knows, it might even look OK!
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 21, 2013, 11:40:35 am
I'm with Andrew on the RS3 - as much as it would be the complete car for my everyday life/job, I couldn't get past that fact you're paying £40k for a 10 year old platform..
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: berg on February 21, 2013, 11:56:31 am
I'm with Andrew on the RS3 - as much as it would be the complete car for my everyday life/job, I couldn't get past that fact you're paying £40k for a 10 year old platform..


is it really that old/outdated? very odd move from audi. Wonder what M135i value will be after 3 years could be an extreme bargain then
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: 81lly on February 21, 2013, 12:45:28 pm
^^^ that sounds fooked all the way through the video it's making an awful noise
Doesn't sound too healthy towards the end of the video, something's whining under the bonnet  :confused:

Yeah there is an awful whine noise , wonder what it is? There was non of that in the video posted earlier
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: 81lly on February 21, 2013, 12:49:28 pm
I'm with Andrew on the RS3 - as much as it would be the complete car for my everyday life/job, I couldn't get past that fact you're paying £40k for a 10 year old platform..


is it really that old/outdated? very odd move from audi. Wonder what M135i value will be after 3 years could be an extreme bargain then

Agree on the RS3 been outdated but I'd have one over an M135i simply because of the 5pot.. There should be a facelift out soon seen as though the new S3 is revealed ?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: andrewparker on February 21, 2013, 01:06:16 pm
Depends, it always takes ages for Audi to get the RS model out...
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 21, 2013, 01:07:41 pm
^^^

Yeah that's why they are always pretty much outdated on release...
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 21, 2013, 02:24:40 pm
Depends, it always takes ages for Audi to get the RS model out...

This 'was' the case and I was just about to say the same thing tbh. However, the new versions of the RS4, RS6, RS7 etc are no where near as long on their release as the previous models..

Either way, you won't be sat in a new RS3 for a couple of years at least (if they do actually release one that is)!
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: SteveP on March 10, 2013, 06:37:04 pm
Having spent 20+ mins dribbling over the A45 at Geneva I know we will be getting one of these at work this year as a priority.  :jumping: :jumping:

The Edition 1 version with the aero bits and graphics looked amazing as did the normal one with the satin silver paint work they had on display.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000252_zpsa39ca50c.jpg&hash=a6aa3cf47947833e82dcb88b72e2443ec01f6730)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000253_zps0334d171.jpg&hash=e50615f8f82283958371bde702347fe078632c44)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000261_zpsf36da627.jpg&hash=f00dedefe792e99fcf7b5756ba6f64686d4601ca)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000262_zps10a7b69a.jpg&hash=3516cfdd5f04e94e3bae8a7f11ceb2a10d1f1403)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000263_zps114351e3.jpg&hash=3f44deff0fd0dd642a6e737efa3490950a48937e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000267_zpsceed9503.jpg&hash=fd8336a9e937f23f8de35ae69475dbbd9a29c64f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FP1000265_zps4864bea1.jpg&hash=8232d92317c8899e19dff1fd5312903653e6c3a1)

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Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: MPS on March 10, 2013, 06:57:59 pm
The carbon dash and red ringed air vents make me want to vomit. Only IMHO though.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: tony_danza on March 10, 2013, 07:25:14 pm
That motor is a work of art, look at that manifold  :drool:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Hedge on March 10, 2013, 07:33:48 pm
I'm hoping Mercedes Benz World start doing some of their driving experiences using one.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Poverty on March 10, 2013, 08:33:00 pm
very very cool that engine design. Wonder what material that manifold and downpipe is made of. The engine on the stand looks like a mock engine compared to the one in the car though?
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Jussa on March 10, 2013, 08:53:04 pm
Not much space in that engine bay for a nice CAI  :chicken:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: SteveP on March 10, 2013, 09:11:40 pm
very very cool that engine design. Wonder what material that manifold and downpipe is made of. The engine on the stand looks like a mock engine compared to the one in the car though?

The engine on a stand was a moving mock up to show the inside of the turbo with led illuminated cutaway sections and a moving gearing box/transfer box  :happy2:

Not much space in that engine bay for a nice CAI  :chicken:

It looked like a 4" intake and removing the airbox would allow for the big cone filter  :happy2:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Poverty on March 10, 2013, 09:44:45 pm
Ahh that explains that, thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 12, 2013, 10:17:35 am
If I were to go with one of these next then it would have to be in Grey with the dark rims, carbon bits, Red calipers and the aero kit. However, I'm not sure about the spoiler and whether it suits the car tbh. Looks like it's been ripped straight off the back of a Focus RS..  :confused:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Hedge on April 27, 2013, 01:29:05 pm
Just to resurrect an old thread but I believe they now have one in Mercedes Benz World.

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/mercedes-benzworld/home/driving_experiences/Driving_Experiences/a-45-amg-experience.html?csref=mbworld_a45_url_260413
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: rich83 on April 27, 2013, 01:45:14 pm
Looks like an "Arbarth"  :chicken:
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 27, 2013, 06:12:57 pm
That is full of win IMO.
Title: Re: Merc A45 AMG
Post by: triggerh4ppy on April 28, 2013, 11:24:38 am
looks great