MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: GeeJay on March 30, 2013, 07:14:59 pm
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Hi all,
So after posting here about a DIY bumper paint and being talked out of it, I took my bumper to the spray shop to be painted Wednesday late evening.
Got a call Friday lunch to pick it up, nice and quick I thought.
Basically - I was gently trying to fit it and some paint started flaking and it looks to me like there is no primer...what do you think? This won't last two minutes.
Opinions on what is actually on the bumper? Primer? Paint? Lacquer?
Where do I go from here, I haven't contacted the spray shop about it yet.
Any help appreciated, I paid £130 for it to be painted :(
The bottom two are of the masking tape that the headlight washer bits were stuck to. I see no primer or lacquer on there? On the bottom pic I have lifted some paint and turned it over - looks metallic blue on the back to me...!
This is black ABS plastic showing, looks silver due to flash. Bumper was brand new:
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Going by the first pic , i assume the bumper was originally silver ? if so , they have simply sprayed the base/clear over the original paint. They should have flattened it back to give it a key and applied the top coats (no need for primer if the bumper was originally painted and not plastic)
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Nope, a brand new ABS plastic bumper that was black.
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in the first pic , is it silver under the paint or plastic (but showing silver due to flash on camera ?)
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Black plastic. I'll get some better more pics in natural light in the morning.
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Thats a hidden part of the bumper so prob didn't get primed and paited the same as the visible part of the bumper. Give them a call to confirm.
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Hand it back to be fixed correctly or ask for your money back :stupid:
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Alex , he has said the bottom pics are masking tape that was on the headlight washer , if thats the case , i'd say the whole bumper will be the same (i.e. no primer)
I'm going to take a guess and say they sprayed the plastic primer over it (or maybe not) and then done the base/clear. It should have been given a key > plastic primer > primer > base/clear . I'd be having words with them
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That definitely hasn't been keyed correctly before it was painted, and I'd day it hasn't been primer edshould have been done with a plastic primer and fully keyed to help the paint stick and stop it flaking like that, once you get one stone chip the rest will start flaking off. Take it back to the body shop and get a refund and take it elsewhere. I wouldn't trust them again if they can't even do a simple bumper spray
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I would be ringing them to double check and explain what you have found!
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One more photo. This lifted from fitting flex alone, so I picked it to see behind:
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That's an absolutely terrible job. Go and give them grief and get it done properly or get a full refund.
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One more photo. This lifted from fitting flex alone, so I picked it to see behind:
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Yeah thats a poor show.
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ask them to do it again
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Where was the garage that you used?
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Piss poor that mate.
Take it back... and ask that they do it again...... properly!
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ask them to do it again
Judging from their first try I'd not bother,ask for a refund and go elsewhere
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Where was the garage that you used?
Local garage in Swindon, came recommended by a friend.
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Take it back! A school bairn could paint it better
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Going to call him up tomorrow and recored the conversation then go and visit while recording also, so he cant worm his way out of it. I think its only fair to give him the opportunity to either do it properly or give my money back? Obviously I don't want him to do it again, I want my money back.
Would you say I shouldn't even offer the opportunity to do it again? I want to be 'fair' in case I have to take it any further.
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Legally you have to give him the opportunity to sort it.
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Legally you have to give him the opportunity to sort it.
Thanks, I'll do that then :)
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Just make clear your expectations of the job. And that you'll be back if it flakes off within the year
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just seen this, primer or no primer, thats shoddy workmanship,
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Not prepared properly, either no primer flatted back/key or no plasticiser, either way crap job, send it back and ask them to do it properly.
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Any News on this yet pal :happy2:
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Any News on this yet pal :happy2:
Not yet, I phoned up today but the guy that did it wasn't there today. I'm going to head there tomorrow. Here's hoping!
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Is this what you paid for? :jumping:
If so I'd wrap it round the guys neck :fighting:
Apart from the obvious part where the paint has flaked off, what about all the other dings and scratches in it?
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I would get down there asap mate, regardless of whether the person that done it is there or not, make the garage aware of the work and state that you want it sorted as a matter of urgency...
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Fook that's a p155 take of a job. I'd be getting my money and going elsewhere, you get what you pay for with paint jobs, how much did that cost?
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Hi all,
Update for you - went to spray shop yesterday and the guy was there luckily. He was quite reasonable when i said i wasn't happy with it, agreed it wasn't a quality job but claimed he keyed it, adhesion promoted and primed it first.
I gave him the options of redoing or money back and he said he'd re-do. Not what I wanted but i have to give him a chance.
Said I wanted it flatted right back to the plastic, keyed, adhesion promoter, primer, base, lacquer. And not just a touch up - the entire bumper. Seemed to agree.
Not to take it back off and se what happens eh!
Thanks for all the advice, really appreciate it :)
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Sounds reasonable, at least your giving him the chance... be interesting to see what it comes back like. I'd be tempted to give it a powerwash after it's cured and hardened properly.
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Usually harder 2nd time round so good luck :rolleye:
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Glad you got on okay, Might find it was a genuine mistake - paint not mixed properly or something - i dunno lol!
But yea as suggested above, first thing i'd do is go at it with a pressure washer & see what happens!