MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: BMX on July 28, 2009, 06:48:12 pm
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has anyone any pictures of there gti with eibach pro kit springs fitted?
does anyone know how much lower they actually are than a standard gti?
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They lower it very little IIRC, they are listed 20mm but you can hardly tell.
If you can find some old pictures of RedRobin's car before he had the KW coiles fitted that will give you an idea. :smiley:
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Here's a pic: -
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^^^^
Thanks, Steve!
However, should I be worried about how many other pics of my car you have? :grin:
My Eibach Pro's were recommended for working best with the KoniFSD's.
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looks ok to me, what was the drop from standard? looks a good 5 to 10mm to me
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looks ok to me, what was the drop from standard? looks a good 5 to 10mm to me
Measure out 5 to 10 mil between your thumb and finger its not much at all.
I know 2 people who bought these and had them up for sale straight away once the saw how much it actually dropped the car. :happy2:
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god damn! where can i get my hands on a bargain set of coilovers. why doesnt anything cheap do the job?? lol :fighting:
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Eibach sportlines about right
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bill
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Measure out 5 to 10 mil between your thumb and finger its not much at all.
I know 2 people who bought these and had them up for sale straight away once the saw how much it actually dropped the car. :happy2:
....Yes, because they bought these springs out of ignorance - They were only going for the lowered look and not considering anything else. Like I said, these Eibach Pro's are perfect for the KoniFSD's because they smartly soften/harden according to the road surface - An ineviatble compromise which necessitates enough room to travel.
There are plenty of other springs which will achieve a lower look.
Horses for courses.
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Measure out 5 to 10 mil between your thumb and finger its not much at all.
I know 2 people who bought these and had them up for sale straight away once the saw how much it actually dropped the car. :happy2:
....Yes, because they bought these springs out of ignorance - They were only going for the lowered look and not considering anything else. Like I said, these Eibach Pro's are perfect for the KoniFSD's because they smartly soften/harden according to the road surface - An ineviatble compromise which necessitates enough room to travel.
There are plenty of other springs which will achieve a lower look.
Horses for courses.
I was talking to the op Robin who mentioned 5- 10 mil i wasn't questioning how much you drop your cars. :smiley:
god damn! where can i get my hands on a bargain set of coilovers. why doesnt anything cheap do the job?? lol :fighting:
If you just want to get the perfect ride height with a bit o f an increase in handling then i would scan Ebay for some H&R springs its a good compromise, and they are quality springs. :happy2:
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I was talking to the op Robin who mentioned 5- 10 mil i wasn't questioning how much you drop your cars. :smiley:
....And I was informing the op why the Eibach Pro's only drop a small amount - A point missed by your friends who didn't research their product enough before buying - Hence their virtually immediate re-sale.
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the pro kit lowers by about 8 mm and you can t really tell its been lowered at all , sportlines lower the same as H&R for £100 less and quality wise not much in it :happy2:
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I had Sportlines put on mine on Friday and I'm happy with the drop! About 35mm they reckon on a GTI. :happy2:
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eibach state 25 mm on the ed30 , dropped mine by about 27 mm :happy2:
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Hello Alistair (BMX) hows that nice Edition 30 that I sold you??? - Im in one myself now! Long time no speak?
I am having sportlines fitted to mine on friday and I will have before and after pics
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hi oli glad to here you have an ed 30 mate. mine has been great from day 1, i have decided to keep for a while now, so gonna do some more modding :evilgrin:
look forward to seeing the results. :smiley:
ps can the gti shocks cope with the h&r and sportline springs or is it a little bouncy?
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hi oli glad to here you have an ed 30 mate. mine has been great from day 1, i have decided to keep for a while now, so gonna do some more modding :evilgrin:
look forward to seeing the results. :smiley:
ps can the gti shocks cope with the h&r and sportline springs or is it a little bouncy?
The OE Damper (Sachs) is more than capable of dealing with Sport Springs! :happy2:
Oh and there is little or no difference in ride 'comfort'
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ok i got bored of looking at arch tyre gaps and reading threads on lowering it was driving me nuts :confused:
just ordered some H&R 30mm drop springs from orange :grin: hope ive done the right thing.
ps can anyone point me in the direction of a "how to " thread on swaping the springs, or tell me of any special tools etc that might be needed. :smiley:
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this thread has just cofused me now! i was about to get the KW or VWR springs because i dont want an obvious drop but the sportlines and H&R's do look much better eeek :scared:
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this thread has just cofused me now! i was about to get the KW or VWR springs because i dont want an obvious drop but the sportlines and H&R's do look much better eeek :scared:
go for it :happy2:
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thing that worries me are the speed bumps i have to go over every day :sad1:
does any one know if with a 30mm drop (H&Rs for example) would mean the front is less than 120mm off the floor as ive heard this is the max speed bump height?? do love the look but for me its about the handling and VWR state theres a 20-25% increase in spring rate in there option. but then maybe the lower ones might be even better for reducing body roll???
just to quote the volkswagen racing website...
With the standard-fit dampers being of a much more sophisticated design than previous generation cars, we have found that fitting an upgraded ‘Sport Spring’ delivers a very worthwhile improvement to the standard Golf Mk5 (and A3, Leon, Jetta, Eos, Octavia, TT and so on). Hence the different spring sets that we have developed for the cars using this platform all work with the standard dampers making this a very cost-effective modification to any of these cars.
We have chosen to lower the car by around 15mm in order to preserve the wheel travel needed to keep usability of the standard car, with an increase in spring rate of around 20-25%. The end result is a more responsive feel to the handling and a lower centre of gravity.
We recommend this set up for all applications except for the most demanding track use.
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical . the standard dampers(saches ) unless they are worn are as good even better than a lot of aftermarket dampers you can buy, all lowered spring s are progressive wound so will be about 25% uprated over oem :wink:
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical . the standard dampers(saches ) unless they are worn are as good even better than a lot of aftermarket dampers you can buy, all lowered spring s are progressive wound so will be about 25% uprated over oem :wink:
arh thanks :happy2:
any ideas on the speed bump thing tho that worries me a bit, any one had any scaping on any of the springs mentioned?? :chicken:
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Mine should be arriving tomorrow with the intake, so i'll get some before and after pics and take some measurements.
My milltek isn't arriving till mid to late august!
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thing that worries me are the speed bumps i have to go over every day :sad1:
does any one know if with a 30mm drop (H&Rs for example) would mean the front is less than 120mm off the floor as ive heard this is the max speed bump height?? do love the look but for me its about the handling and VWR state theres a 20-25% increase in spring rate in there option. but then maybe the lower ones might be even better for reducing body roll???
just to quote the volkswagen racing website...
With the standard-fit dampers being of a much more sophisticated design than previous generation cars, we have found that fitting an upgraded ‘Sport Spring’ delivers a very worthwhile improvement to the standard Golf Mk5 (and A3, Leon, Jetta, Eos, Octavia, TT and so on). Hence the different spring sets that we have developed for the cars using this platform all work with the standard dampers making this a very cost-effective modification to any of these cars.
We have chosen to lower the car by around 15mm in order to preserve the wheel travel needed to keep usability of the standard car, with an increase in spring rate of around 20-25%. The end result is a more responsive feel to the handling and a lower centre of gravity.
We recommend this set up for all applications except for the most demanding track use.
At that drop you will be fine over almost anything. Dont worry and enjoy. :happy2:
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mine goes over speed humps with no problem
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fitted with eibach sportlines
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical.
....No, not necessarily all identical at all - VWR have a technical partnership with KW Germany and are able to order whatever bespoke KW products they want. For example, my VWR-KW-V3's are bespoke from KW Germany.
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thing that worries me are the speed bumps i have to go over every day :sad1:
does any one know if with a 30mm drop (H&Rs for example) would mean the front is less than 120mm off the floor as ive heard this is the max speed bump height?? do love the look but for me its about the handling and VWR state theres a 20-25% increase in spring rate in there option. but then maybe the lower ones might be even better for reducing body roll???
....Don't forget that anti-roll bars greatly help reduce body roll.
Linky : - Official Gov'nment Info on Speed Cushions etc.... (http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tpm/tal/trafficmanagement/speedcushions?page=2)
HTH
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical.
....No, not necessarily all identical at all - VWR have a technical partnership with KW Germany and are able to order whatever bespoke KW products they want. For example, my VWR-KW-V3's are bespoke from KW Germany.
thats what matt from vwr told me , when i asked what they lowered by , he said look at kw web site cause they are one of the same !!!!
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical.
....No, not necessarily all identical at all - VWR have a technical partnership with KW Germany and are able to order whatever bespoke KW products they want. For example, my VWR-KW-V3's are bespoke from KW Germany.
thats what matt from vwr told me , when i asked what they lowered by , he said look at kw web site cause they are one of the same !!!!
....Yes, unless they order bespoke for you. We may be talking at cross-purposes, Ian (sorry if that's the case) - VWR can order different spring ratings from KW - Those won't be on any web site.
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Good choice with the h&r springs, can't complain about mine at all, just need the anit-lift kit and get it all alligned and it's more than enough for what I put the car through.
As for speed humps I wouldn't worry about them, mines not bottomed out yet on any humps, can't help with the height as I'm at work at the minute.
Luke
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i looked at every option with the springs and vwr springs are made by kw any way so they are identical.
....No, not necessarily all identical at all - VWR have a technical partnership with KW Germany and are able to order whatever bespoke KW products they want. For example, my VWR-KW-V3's are bespoke from KW Germany.
thats what matt from vwr told me , when i asked what they lowered by , he said look at kw web site cause they are one of the same !!!!
....Yes, unless they order bespoke for you. We may be talking at cross-purposes, Ian (sorry if that's the case) - VWR can order different spring ratings from KW - Those won't be on any web site.
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sorry mate i m talking about the ones the vwr quote was about the ones on vwr web site , i dont doubt they can get pretty much any thing made that you want being the company they are :smiley:
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ok i got bored of looking at arch tyre gaps and reading threads on lowering it was driving me nuts :confused:
just ordered some H&R 30mm drop springs from orange :grin: hope ive done the right thing.
ps can anyone point me in the direction of a "how to " thread on swaping the springs, or tell me of any special tools etc that might be needed. :smiley:
ok, so i dont look any more stupid lookin for orange on google that sell suspension! can anyone tell me which place it is :scared:
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http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/
there you go :happy2:
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Thanks matey :happy2: