MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: JackG on April 14, 2013, 11:04:19 pm
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eddie is going :sad1:
im going to buy a evo 8.......soooooo talk to me, whos had/got one? ive got my eye on a good 8 running 400bhp and 400fltb
services are like 5k? want something a bit raw and ready now and real 4wd system
cheers
jack
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My mate has always been into his scoobys and evo's... they are monsters when tuned right, but you get so much bad attention even when your not flogging them (plod) that I'd find it tiring. It's nice to have a car with some poke that doesn't shout about it everywhere. :surprised:
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Sat in one yesterday which was running 300brake. It was rapid!!
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Not so good on MPG but what the heck, awesome cars.
3-4k service around 120-150 i think my mate said. That included the YAW fluids.
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My brother in law had a brand new evo 8 fq300 and it had to have a new clutch and gearbox (under warranty) before it was 2 years/ 15000 miles old so be careful of that! The dealer said at the time if it wasn't still under warranty it would have been a £10k job!!
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Lovely car, but it's a bit of a sh*t when it comes to servicing....
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Nice cars for a spirited drive. :driver:
Not so nice for the other 90% of the time. :sad1:
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I had a 400/400 evo 6 before my eddy.
There good cars, raw power and just brutal when tuned to that level on the road.
Personal opinion-
-the fuel costs ruined the 'evo excitement', running vpower all the time you certainly get to know shell staff!! :happy2:
-servicing isnt that bad, join the MLR, lots of traders who do deals on such things and it doesn't hit the bank hard!
-they get lots of attention and sometimes from the wrong people! (Arses always wanting to boot it)
Many other things but bottom line would I have another......yes lol :laugh: would I have one instead of a tuned mk6 golf r.....no
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great driver cars but
-interior is as bad as it gets
-you will hardly see fuel consumption above 18 mpg in real life
-might attract wrong crowd
If the above does not concern you Go FOR IT!
Paul
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Buy once and buy right.
Was a serious consideration of mine before buying the Golf (wise head on).
They suffer from rust quite badly. Check all arches and around glass and spoiler. You'd want to steer clear of ones that are highly modified with little to no history.
Decide what tune you want to go for. MR or FQ models (cant remember which?) have stronger bottom end I believe? Also I think I was advised that the 5 speed boxes were weaker than the 6 speed boxes.
If you'd like some fantastic advice give Ewan a call at Clark Motorsport on 01467 631261. They run Group N rally cars and service a large percentage of the north easts Evo's. I get my Golf serviced there and had my Integra looked after by them while I had it. Ewan was able to tell me all the pros and cons of all Evo's.
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had an evo6 a few years back, stunning cars to drive but if you do anywhere near 10k per annum expect to know the petrol station staff by name :grin:
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to be honest guys I think if you buy a fast car fuel bills shouldn't even enter your mind...there going to be high on all high performance cars a guess.
servicing costs seem ok :notworthy:
reason I want one is to scratch an itch, my eddie is fun but I feel goin for something more raw and violent is what I want right now, , dont get me wrong my eddie wasn't boring but its no rally monster so something loud and violent and grippy should sort me out I hope.
im going to buy a tdi for work so evo will be for fun mainly.
cant wait!
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Jack aren't you selling your Edition 30 because you can't afford the finance on it?
I think you are seriously under estimating the costs of running an Evo. You really need to look into what you're getting yourself into. On top of servicing, Evo's eat tyres, a clutch will only last a few launches and AYC pumps can go pop at any time.
If I was buying an Evo, this would be the one:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/evo-vii--ix/palma-red-autronic-evo-9-gt-deposit-taken/1261329
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My friend has had 2 evo's a 5(360bhp modded) and a 8 FQ MR 340(400bhp modded) ,both awesome examples and cars for that matter,a few ''small'' problems though 1:A massive amount of unwanted attention 2:MEGA sh*te fuel consumption !! those 2 reasons alone have always put me off
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I was thinking about buying and looking at Subaru's and Evo's before I got my ED30 and every time I drive past one, or hear one coming from 2 miles away, or see someone driving like a total twat in one I thank myself for making the right decision.
Test drove both and would like to drive one or the other again at some point..........................but I'd be glad to get back in my Golf and drive home :drinking:
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Jack aren't you selling your Edition 30 because you can't afford the finance on it?
I think you are seriously under estimating the costs of running an Evo. You really need to look into what you're getting yourself into. On top of servicing, Evo's eat tyres, a clutch will only last a few launches and AYC pumps can go pop at any time.
If I was buying an Evo, this would be the one:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/evo-vii--ix/palma-red-autronic-evo-9-gt-deposit-taken/1261329
no its not an affordability issue its that I no longer want the monthly payment, I would rather know if I lost my job ill still have a car.
I know there not cheap to run but ill be doing less than 10k a year :)
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Fair play for being brave enough...
A good mate of mine had an FQ300 '03 plate back in 2005. Had a great tour through Europe with him in that car - as everyone else has said - it attracts a lot of attention.
Awesome sounding car - remember driving it on the autostradas - the way it could just tear up the tarmac was unreal, and on the Stelvio pass it was great fun.
As said - petrol and servicing costs are the main issue. Not sure what insurance is like, but if I were to have one - I'd want a garage, tracker, and to live out in the sticks somewhere..
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fuel cost's im expecting to be high......its a performance car so its bound to use fuel ane alot of it, you don't buy a fast car if you want good mpg would you say?
maintenance cost's are not too bad its just every 5k which I get my eddie done every 5k anyway.
4wd system maintenance and stuff I have no idea but im not going to cry over it.
I wonder what my old man will say when its parked next to his impreza!!!! :signLOL:
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Take a look on MLR mate, there's a buyers guide on there which is brilliant. Dealer wise both JPerformance and Xtreme seem good, although you will be paying a premium at both (especially Xtreme). You seem to see more dodgy Evos for sale than any other car.
Make sure you get an 8 MR, they have a better turbo and will easily tune to 400bhp. To get the same results on a non MR requires a turbo change.
What car have you spotted?
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Ive got a Evo 8 mr fq340.
I wouldn't think about it unless you have deep pockets as there are not cheap to run.
Servicing is every 4500k or 6months and is strict.
Servicing is from £200 to £650 depending on what needs done.
Brake discs and pads, tyres and clutches are to be taken into account aswell.
Reliability is good as long as its well looked after. Mines has been fine except warped discs and the notchy gearbox when cold.
The AYC pump is very common to fail and is expensive! The gearbox and transfer box is also prone to failing especially the 6 speed when launching and driving hard.
Rust is also a problem as with all jap cars - mines needs an arch re-done and its only an 05 plate with 49k!
I'm looking to sell mines soon as i hate worrying about it going wrong so fancy a focus rs mk2 or a hatchback sti.
Dont get me wrong its been a fantastic car but, again buy one with your eyes open and dont skimp on servicing and parts or it can ruin the experience. If i was getting another which i will in the future it would be a 8 mr rs or a 9gt due to the stronger 5speed box and rs rear diff.
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^^^^ what he said. I worked for Mitsubishi and as said above deep pockets needed I remember getting one in with a noisy rear diff well it was knackered and it had damage the prop shaft too :scared: guy shat his pants when we told him the price for it doing. So eyes wide open before buying one and make sure it's been crazy looked after
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^^^^ what he said. I worked for Mitsubishi and as said above deep pockets needed I remember getting one in with a noisy rear diff well it was knackered and it had damage the prop shaft too :scared: guy shat his pants when we told him the price for it doing. So eyes wide open before buying one and make sure it's been crazy looked after
See I'm not the only one thinks your mad jack :grin:
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As a toy to abuse on a weekend they are great fun and once fettled are crazy on the back roads :driver: the fq400 is a hoot but when not on boost is just slow :signLOL: the evo 6 mac is what I would buy simply stunning and has a very strong following
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^^^^ what he said. I worked for Mitsubishi and as said above deep pockets needed I remember getting one in with a noisy rear diff well it was knackered and it had damage the prop shaft too :scared: guy shat his pants when we told him the price for it doing. So eyes wide open before buying one and make sure it's been crazy looked after
See I'm not the only one thinks your mad jack :grin:
:signLOL: I am mad
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so are diffs and gear boxes common then? I can see that people that launch them destroy them :scared:
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It's a 4wd rallye car mate that people either look after or don't so buy wise
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It's a 4wd rallye car mate that people either look after or don't so buy wise
good point, need to find one that's owned by a old chap really!
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No just look around it and check history see how lovingly the owner talks about it if buying private but if buying trade then check history and paper work and get warranty with it if you can. They are great cars and also check panel gaps and under Neath for any signs of damage as they might have been smashed as we had loads in that you could clearly tell had been on a jig and pulls straight due to people thinking they were a rally driver
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No just look around it and check history see how lovingly the owner talks about it if buying private but if buying trade then check history and paper work and get warranty with it if you can. They are great cars and also check panel gaps and under Neath for any signs of damage as they might have been smashed as we had loads in that you could clearly tell had been on a jig and pulls straight due to people thinking they were a rally driver
intention is to buy one thats done about 30k from a member on the MLR forum, I don't like buying trade.
whats your veiw on them against my stage 2+ eddie? 400bhp evo that is? I suppose there lighter than the golf...
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If I had to scratch my Evo itch it would have to be with one of these! :love:
http://www.paulbrowncars.co.uk/car_Mitsubishi-EVO-6-TOMMI-MAKENIN_82__index.php
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It's a 4wd rallye car mate that people either look after or don't so buy wise
good point, need to find one that's owned by a old chap really!
Just make sure it's not:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.mtv3.fi%2Fmn_kuvat%2Fmtv3%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2F2010%2F866006.jpg&hash=90895b94abee4aa3e2f415f52fc8e05fbca57655)
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If I had to scratch my Evo itch it would have to be with one of these! :love:
http://www.paulbrowncars.co.uk/car_Mitsubishi-EVO-6-TOMMI-MAKENIN_82__index.php
^^ was posting my pic whilst you linked to this :signLOL:
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Curb weight of a evo 8 fq320 is 1400kg.
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Yeah but transmission loss is massive and a stage 2+ golf would eat one up unless you start throwing crazy corners into the mix. As posted above the the 6 mac is the dogs bollox in terms of keeping its value and the 8/9 the bumpers can be swapped over to face lift the 8 to the 9 set up
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i should of gone into that abit more. transmission plays a big part on the evos and indeed the losses are more. My evo 6 ran 305bhp@ the wheels on a dyno dynamics roller which put it at 392bhp@ the flywheel.
Going from that to my stage 2 ed30 i can say i prefer the eddy, yes there completely different cars but the golf certainly holds it own. I have near enough the same power atw's but can do 30mpg on a run out and have all the toys inside (nav,mfsw,heated leather) alot nicer place to sit! and in general the car is alot more subtle on the road.
each to there own and if youve got a scratch to itch jack i dont think we'll swing your decision, just dont go in blind mate. Defo get yourself on MLR, pay up the membership and have a good read into the peoples/cars past before buying. I bought my 6 through MLR and defo paid off, i got a minter with and owner with nothing to hide!
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so are diffs and gear boxes common then? I can see that people that launch them destroy them :scared:
Very common mate. Look on the MLR forum. The 6speeds are very common to go wrong where the 5speed is a lot stronger unless running big power. The reason for this is Mits squeezed the extra gear into the 5 speed casing and had to use smaller weaker parts to do this so be aware. Usually happens without warning. A trader on MLR refuses to touch the 6speeds when re-building which is saying something.
AYC pump is also very common to fail. Look for a car thats already had one rebuilt. The lad i bought mines off bought another and his AYC pump has failed at 42k. Mines has been ok so far, touch wood! To fix this can cost about £500-£1500
My mate who has the same model as me blew up his transfer box and it cost him a fortune to put right.
Clutches are common to go as well so look for a car with an uprated clutch like a Exedy twinplate.
I'm not trying to put you off as they are incredible cars and everytime i go a blast i have a big smile on my face. Different ball game to my old GTI. From a rolling start a stage 2+ eddy can beat mines by about 1 car length (mines is standard), but, would leave it for dead in the corners or anything other than bone dry conditions.
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well there isn't a car thats without its common issues is there :smiley:
for me and ill be straight up honest....i find the golf boring :ashamed: yes its fast but its so civilised which is good when you want to relax but I hardly drove my golf hard, it would spin spin spin, but if I get in my dads impreza which is only 200bhp I just want to drive it everywhere, the sound, the turbo noise and just feels alive and nimble, dont get me wrong ill miss eddie and I know I will one day I will have one again but for now I want something violent!!!!
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so are diffs and gear boxes common then? I can see that people that launch them destroy them :scared:
Very common mate. Look on the MLR forum. The 6speeds are very common to go wrong where the 5speed is a lot stronger unless running big power. The reason for this is Mits squeezed the extra gear into the 5 speed casing and had to use smaller weaker parts to do this so be aware. Usually happens without warning. A trader on MLR refuses to touch the 6speeds when re-building which is saying something.
AYC pump is also very common to fail. Look for a car thats already had one rebuilt. The lad i bought mines off bought another and his AYC pump has failed at 42k. Mines has been ok so far, touch wood! To fix this can cost about £500-£1500
My mate who has the same model as me blew up his transfer box and it cost him a fortune to put right.
Clutches are common to go as well so look for a car with an uprated clutch like a Exedy twinplate.
I'm not trying to put you off as they are incredible cars and everytime i go a blast i have a big smile on my face. Different ball game to my old GTI. From a rolling start a stage 2+ eddy can beat mines by about 1 car length (mines is standard), but, would leave it for dead in the corners or anything other than bone dry conditions.
what evo do you have? sorry if you've already said
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but if I get in my dads impreza which is only 200bhp I just want to drive it everywhere, the sound, the turbo noise and just feels alive and nimble
I drove a bugeye Imprezza WRX STI around a handling circuit and found it utterly boring. Fast, but you just pointed it corners and squirted the throttle.
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Owned an sti type uk was an itch I had and will never own one again pure dog sh1t and I have driven loads too
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Hi Jack,
I've just come from a 2007 Evo 9 running 393bhp to my Edition 30 that I have now. If you have any questions feel free to pm me.
Go take one for a test drive and it's very likely you'll end up buying one.
Here's my old car...
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=429814
Julian
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Drove a customers EvoX today and my god did that thing feel alive compared to my R!
The steering was much more communicative! :sad1:
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I've long had a soft spot for Evos and test driven a few 8s and 9s. They are fantastic cars but for me my Edition 30 is the best of both worlds. If I bought an Evo I'd have to buy, insure and run a second car for the majority of my travel. I'd always feel like there would be 'moments' where I was out in that car, but I wanted to be in the Evo. Off boost, the Edition 30 is a civilised, well styled, easy to drive daily use, and on boost it gives 90% of the performance I require.
Yes I'd like an Evo, they're extreme cars, but I couldn't warrant the additional costs for now.
Evo's often have many owners for their age compared to other cars which tells you something!
Not trying to be negative or piss on your bonfire, but the grass is always greener on the other side!
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Mates got an evo. Absolutely crazy beast. I'll get one to satisfy the 'im young and stupid' mark, but my mate loves his. Looks so mean and you deffo know when ones coming. Just had him sitting quite close to my back on the motorway just made me :drool:.....and move over!