MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Jaywoo-GTI on April 17, 2013, 02:27:21 pm
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Just been informed that V-Power is improving. :happy2:
Don't quite know what it will mean for all us guys who had our cars mapped to V-Power, Probably nothing considering it has the same 99RON
http://www.shell.com.ph/products-services/on-the-road/fuels/v-power-nitro-plus-tpkg/about.html
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Are you sure that's this country? Looks like the Phillipines. :confused:
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Yeah i am sure, Website is not for this country but there is nothing on the uk site,
My Girlfriend works for Shell and they are have having a launch day at participating sites tomorrow.
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They arent just releasing an R/C Fuel are they? :laugh:
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is it just a marketing ploy or will i finally be able to get some V-Tech..??? :grin:
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ARAL 102 in Germany FTW.
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Nope, Its only really another re-brand of V-power which was re-branded Optimax, but from the leaflet i have seen it says it reduces friction from Start up.
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Yeah i am sure, Website is not for this country but there is nothing on the uk site,
My Girlfriend works for Shell and they are have having a launch day at participating sites tomorrow.
Cool. :happy2:
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Any idea of which garages will be participating?
Also, doesn't Nitro degrade over time?
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Any idea of which garages will be participating?
Also, doesn't Nitro degrade over time?
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I am led to believe it is all the ones that currently sell V-Power as the new one will replace it.
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Any idea of which garages will be participating?
Also, doesn't Nitro degrade over time?
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All that sell V-Power I assume, as this will replace it?
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I wonder how/if the price will be affected...
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My local shell has got it.
Didnt look at the price im affraid. Will see if it drives any different later :happy2:
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Nope, Its only really another re-brand of V-power which was re-branded Optimax, but from the leaflet i have seen it says it reduces friction from Start up.
I thought Optimax was 98ron and V-Power 99?
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It was but it was just another additive to make up the extra 1RON, much like V-power and V-power Nitro+
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Nope, Its only really another re-brand of V-power which was re-branded Optimax, but from the leaflet i have seen it says it reduces friction from Start up.
I thought Optimax was 98ron and V-Power 99?
Your correct Sir:
"In the United Kingdom and Denmark (where Super Unleaded must be a minimum of 97 RON), V-Power has a rating of 99 RON (whereas V-Powers' predecessor Shell Optimax was rated at 98 RON)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_V-Power
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I suspect this lot had a hand in the name changing...
http://www.optimax.co.uk/
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Got a full tank in mine. Friction modifiers :signLOL: what ever next
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It's supposed to clean the intake valves I read on the shell site...
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Not on our engines though :sad1:
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Not on our engines though :sad1:
Is this cos we are direct injection? We would still get some benefit wouldnt we?
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From what i have read i believe
Shell V-Power Nitro+ is 99RON
Shell V-Power Nitro+ Racing is 102RON
not sure if we can get the racing stuff in UK though
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Not on our engines though :sad1:
Not on our engines though :sad1:
Is this cos we are direct injection? We would still get some benefit wouldnt we?
Filthy
Sludgy
Intake...
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Just had an email offering 100 bonus points for using nitro within the next few weeks.
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^^^^ got that too today. FMT :laugh:
email from Shell
After months of extensive testing, we have created a performance fuel to help your car achieve its performance potential. Developed with Scuderia Ferrari, this new formulation is designed to instantly get to work in your engine on deposits which can reduce performance. We have also increased the friction modifier content by 25%*. The friction modifier is designed to reduce friction in critical engine areas, helping to deliver more power to the wheels. Put simply, this is Ferrari's choice for improved performance.
Shell V-Power Nitro+ Unleaded Benefits
Protecting Cylinder Walls – Our Friction Modification Technology is designed to instantly reduce friction between the piston assembly and cylinder wall by coating them with a protective film.
Cleaner Intake Valves and Fuel Injectors – Designed to prevent and clean up deposits that can affect performance. Shell V-Power Nitro+ contains special additives to help stop performance-robbing deposits from building up around the intake valves and fuel injectors.
In comparison to our previous Shell V-Power Unleaded, we have rebalanced the formulation to contain 25% more Friction Modification Technology (FMT). This technology has been tested with Ferrari as part of our long standing technical partnership, and is designed to instantly reduce friction in critical engine areas and thereby help the engine to deliver more power to the wheels.
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What a load of bunkum..........
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... And all along a Gallardo can still run fine on 95 RON!
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Just had an email offering 100 bonus points for using nitro within the next few weeks.
Same here. Better get driving as I filled up on the 'standard' V-power a few days ago.
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I'd love to see a GTI dyno'd on both V-power and the nitro stuff.
In all honesty, the only thing I can see it doing is perhaps keeping the RON higher for longer.
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For your viewing stealth :happy2:
Edit; i slightly miss read your post, it would be good to see a comparison between the 2 shell fuels. Atleast the vid proves these fuels work abit
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I got the bonus points email today too. It seems that there will be no performance benefit of any kind, they have just altered the additives to protect the engine a bit more. It's only a good thing I suppose, just as long as the price stays the same!
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I noticed there was a NITRO DIESEL option at the pumps today (not sure how long that's been there, don't normally look at that filthy stuff - lol), but still vPower on the Petrol pump. A race gas pump would do well I think 102+ Octane.
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Vpower racing in Germany was 100Ron
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Vpower racing in Germany was 100Ron
Meh, hardly seems worth it... unless that's their standard Super unleaded. :pomppomp:
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Was worth it for me, I only paid 69p / litre :laugh:
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Vpower racing in Germany was 100Ron
Meh, hardly seems worth it... unless that's their standard Super unleaded. :pomppomp:
Nope, not the standard. Petrol can be confusing there though. What petrol stations call ordinary unleaded there is only about 92 ron , then they call 95 ron Super unleaded and what is 97 or higher ron is called Super Plus unleaded. Then just to mix it up even more, Shell offer that 100 ron racing Vpower as well.
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For your viewing stealth :happy2:
Edit; i slightly miss read your post, it would be good to see a comparison between the 2 shell fuels. Atleast the vid proves these fuels work abit
So not really worth the extra 10p per litre then. I still run standard shell unleaded on my car, I tried the vpower but noticed no difference whatsoever
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Basically sales of V Power are low so Shell are re branding it to initiate more sales. I'm not doubting that the fuel has been improved as they said it has, but will we ever notice or see any benefit? I seriously doubt it.
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I suspect this lot had a hand in the name changing...
http://www.optimax.co.uk/
Really? Against Shell? Annual profits of circa £17bn
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Just blew about £30's worth of the stuff....................didn't feel any different to Tesco 99 or an other fuel we get here for that matter.
Nice weather though! :happy2:
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Put 25L in.... gained another 20bhp easy!! :signLOL:
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I put 30l in earlier. It's so fast I'm taking it to Bonneville. :wink:
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I put 30l in earlier. It's so fast I'm taking it to Bonneville. :wink:
Ill come and help you wrap it in tin foil.... :happy2:
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I can definitely tell the difference between 95 and 99, feels much more zippy with vPower. S2 K03.
Does no one else think there's a difference?
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I can definitely tell the difference between 95 and 99, feels much more zippy with vPower. S2 K03.
Does no one else think there's a difference?
There are countless threads about this, and people will always argue. However, yes there is a difference. The Gti is designed to run on super unleaded to be able achieve it's full potential. VW state super as the fuel to use. The difference the driver will feel is minimal, but it can be noticed. For your extra money you are also getting extra cleaning additives etc. that regular unleaded doesn't contain.
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The early GTI's state 98ron on the fuel flap, the later GTI's state 95 ron. Not sure about the ED30 and Pirelli versions.
I have an 07 plate GTI. It states 95ron on the fuel flap and in the manual it states there will be no performance or fuel economy difference using a higher ron.
Maybe there would be a difference on the earlier models?
It's just what the manual states. If a test was done on the mk5 GTI early and late we would find out.
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Pirelli states 98 Ron, 95 if you have to.
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Edition also states 98 Ron :happy2:
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If your car is mapped then only 99RON should be used..
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Results for Higher Octane fuels improving power are well documented on Dynos. As for improving fuel economy it's debatable.
I read that Lean burn/Stratified mode has never been utilised in the TFSI engine...not sure if this is accurate but I would be interested in the reason for it not running in Stratified mode.
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I can remember reading an early mk5 GTI review which says if you're buying second hand, watch out for cylinder head problems caused by running 95 RON :confused:
Anyhoo, I run my 2008 on Momentum or V-Power (when available) as it's stage 1. Fuel cap states 'recommended super-unleaded' or something to that effect.
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If your car is mapped then only 99RON should be used..
I think you can map to 95 ron
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If your car is mapped then only 99RON should be used..
I think you can map to 95 ron
You can
APR do 95ron and 98ron maps (Think they also do 102ron map)
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Mate of mine put some of the nitro shell stuff in his RS4......and I hopped in to see the results. A fair increase in performance and responsivenes. A lot more than what we were expecting that's for sure. Don't know if we'll see an increase in mileage but the RS4 isn't exactly built for economical driving! :p
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I can remember reading an early mk5 GTI review which says if you're buying second hand, watch out for cylinder head problems caused by running 95 RON :confused:
Anyhoo, I run my 2008 on Momentum or V-Power (when available) as it's stage 1. Fuel cap states 'recommended super-unleaded' or something to that effect.
Yeah, I've heard various reports about head gasket problems on gti's that have used 95 Ron long term.
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Can someone tell me, will I get more miles per gallon in value buying 95ron to any other higher Ron fuel?
Cars stage 2 mapped on 99 but I started running on 95 to get more fuel for the money as dont use the power much.
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Can someone tell me, will I get more miles per gallon in value buying 95ron to any other higher Ron fuel?
Cars stage 2 mapped on 99 but I started running on 95 to get more fuel for the money as dont use the power much.
I get better mpg running on Super, but my car is standard.
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Any difference "noticed" by using V Power Nitro over regular V Power is purely placebo affect and nothing else
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Any difference "noticed" by using V Power Nitro over regular V Power is purely placebo affect and nothing else
Even on 99 ron vs 101 ron which this nitro stuff apparently is?
My local shell has it 3p cheaper than v power atm, so that's being bought!
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Can someone tell me, will I get more miles per gallon in value buying 95ron to any other higher Ron fuel?
Cars stage 2 mapped on 99 but I started running on 95 to get more fuel for the money as dont use the power much.
I get better mpg running on Super, but my car is standard.
You may get more miles, but it'll cost you more in the long run surely? When I tested it, I got the exact same amount of miles out of the car, driving it the same way, it was just costing me a lot more to fill it up!
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^^^^ a full tank of V Power will only cost you less than £4 extra over the standard unleaded, no biggy.
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Unfortunately the Shells near me are a bit of a drive and the price is always alot more than Tesco's Momentum, which is on the way to work, so I doubt I'll be using the nitro stuff anytime soon. Can't see there being any major differences tbh
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Any difference "noticed" by using V Power Nitro over regular V Power is purely placebo affect and nothing else
Even on 99 ron vs 101 ron which this nitro stuff apparently is?
My local shell has it 3p cheaper than v power atm, so that's being bought!
Nitro+ is 99Ron
They are supposed to be offering Nitro+ Racing but not seen it anywhere, maybe it wasn't meant for UK market
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Any difference "noticed" by using V Power Nitro over regular V Power is purely placebo affect and nothing else
Even on 99 ron vs 101 ron which this nitro stuff apparently is?
My local shell has it 3p cheaper than v power atm, so that's being bought!
Nitro+ is 99Ron
They are supposed to be offering Nitro+ Racing but not seen it anywhere, maybe it wasn't meant for UK market
Ohh fair enough!
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Can someone tell me, will I get more miles per gallon in value buying 95ron to any other higher Ron fuel?
Cars stage 2 mapped on 99 but I started running on 95 to get more fuel for the money as dont use the power much.
I get better mpg running on Super, but my car is standard.
You may get more miles, but it'll cost you more in the long run surely? When I tested it, I got the exact same amount of miles out of the car, driving it the same way, it was just costing me a lot more to fill it up!
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I defo get better Mpg using super. No it's not quite enough to completely make up for the price difference, but that's not why I buy it. I don't mind paying a fraction more for a better quality fuel that my car is designed to run on.
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Filled up twice with this Nitro stuff now, no difference from vPower. Still waiting on that 102+ Octane Racing Pump to emerge :party:
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That's because this is just a rebranding exercise by Shell. Or at the most there is only a slight engine cleaning benefit from the new stuff. There won't be any performance increase.
Still need to fill up some to get my 100 bonus points though :smiley:
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That's because this is just a rebranding exercise by Shell. Or at the most there is only a slight engine cleaning benefit from the new stuff. There won't be any performance increase.
Still need to fill up some to get my 100 bonus points though :smiley:
Yeh I noticed this today! There is no more normal V Power it seems!
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That's because this is just a rebranding exercise by Shell. Or at the most there is only a slight engine cleaning benefit from the new stuff. There won't be any performance increase.
Still need to fill up some to get my 100 bonus points though :smiley:
I put around £500+ a month in my car and with the Shell points I will get a £10 voucher every 4 months or whatever it is.. Biggest joke of a rewards scheme out there IMO.. How your average Joe who fills his car up every weekend gets anything out of it is beyond me.. :confused:
At least with Tesco you get a decent amount back, plus they are worth up to 3 x their face value when used right.
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I do both... shell card and tescos. Like you say... tesco seems to win on that front. Especially if you shop there and get 5PPL vouchers.
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I put around £500+ a month in my car and with the Shell points I will get a £10 voucher every 4 months or whatever it is.. Biggest joke of a rewards scheme out there IMO.. How your average Joe who fills his car up every weekend gets anything out of it is beyond me.. :confused:
At least with Tesco you get a decent amount back, plus they are worth up to 3 x their face value when used right.
I do the same. I was just thinking the other day that it is a pretty poor rewards system. I will be starting a new job in a few weeks with a 20mile per day commute opposed to 80. So that will be £10 per year reward if i'm lucky.
Also Shell vouchers expire in a couple of months and Tesco vouchers last years! If you lose them you can re-print them from the clubcard website. :happy2:
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Just filled a tank with this. Initial impressions: could hear the air intake a little more prominently but otherwise no change in performance.
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I filled up today not noticed a thing
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Are you guys sure that you have been putting Nitro+ in???
I went to Shell in Nuneaton on Tuesday (23rd). They said they had none as they had just had their V-Power tank cleaned out that morning. So anyone who bought V-Power from there up to then was getting the old stuff.
I tried to fill up at Coleshill and the garage was closed off when I got there with 0 miles left on the range! :jumping:
I had to drive 10 miles to an ESSO garge to put their Super Unleaded in.
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No change in power delivery or performance. MPG was the same too.
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That's because this is just a rebranding exercise by Shell. Or at the most there is only a slight engine cleaning benefit from the new stuff. There won't be any performance increase.
Still need to fill up some to get my 100 bonus points though :smiley:
I put around £500+ a month in my car and with the Shell points I will get a £10 voucher every 4 months or whatever it is.. Biggest joke of a rewards scheme out there IMO.. How your average Joe who fills his car up every weekend gets anything out of it is beyond me.. :confused:
At least with Tesco you get a decent amount back, plus they are worth up to 3 x their face value when used right.
Get yourself a British Airways American express card, link the shell drivers cub card to your amex, then you earn air miles when filling up (even more if you use the amex card to pay for it)
I've got a load of air miles from them :D
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That's because this is just a rebranding exercise by Shell. Or at the most there is only a slight engine cleaning benefit from the new stuff. There won't be any performance increase.
Still need to fill up some to get my 100 bonus points though :smiley:
I put around £500+ a month in my car and with the Shell points I will get a £10 voucher every 4 months or whatever it is.. Biggest joke of a rewards scheme out there IMO.. How your average Joe who fills his car up every weekend gets anything out of it is beyond me.. :confused:
At least with Tesco you get a decent amount back, plus they are worth up to 3 x their face value when used right.
Get yourself a British Airways American express card, link the shell drivers cub card to your amex, then you earn air miles when filling up (even more if you use the amex card to pay for it)
I've got a load of air miles from them :D
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Lol my dad has somehow managed to hook my shell card up onto HIS avios/airmiles account! Cheeky boy.
Filled up with a tank of this nitros stuff so see how that goes. Had a good thrash on the way back and....well droveso guess that's good :p