MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: logic1980 on April 24, 2013, 01:28:45 pm
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Hi all, /First post as im planning on buying an ED30 towards the end of the year and looking at the following mods
S3 intercooler
VWR induction
VWR CAT back system
revo stage 1 remap
What sort of BHP figures can I expect from this - does anyone have experience in this and any recommendations of other kit ( i mainly favour VRW as I know some1 who works for them )
Thanks all
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280bhp
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Should be about 300BHP i think... with the intake and S3 cooler.
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thats spot on - I was hoping for about 50BHP extra so that looks on the money - I dont think any more than that for fast road is a good idea anyway.
I assume the standard clutch can handle the extra? or do people change those out too? and what about the brakes? is standard ok with fast road pads or should I be looking at S3 swap or brembo etc
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thats spot on - I was hoping for about 50BHP extra so that looks on the money - I dont think any more than that for fast road is a good idea anyway.
I assume the standard clutch can handle the extra? or do people change those out too? and what about the brakes? is standard ok with fast road pads or should I be looking at S3 swap or brembo etc
Depends on what your using the car for, uprated pads and braided lines will make a good difference though.
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just looking for safe fast road set up really, nothing over the top but would like to stand up to the odd S3,VXR,ST challenge when needed :driver: :evilgrin: :P
I think prior to the power mods il be lloking at engine and tranny mounts, anti roll etc so guess brakes fall in to that chassis category
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Revo stage 1 on a standard car will make 280-290bhp mine made 289bhp.
Mods might allow a bit more, though might cause fuelling issues as pump might not meet air demands so pull back... Reducing output.
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so if stage 1 alone gets 280bhp why would i pay out for the induction and S3 IC? or is that just hardware on its way to stage 2?
guess i could add a high pressure flue pump in to the mix - or maybe i should save my money and spend it on the handling?
how do you find the drive at 290BHP? have you do any handling/braking mods
Thanks chaps
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Just a thought
If your buying the VWR Intake and VWR Exhaust why dont you get APR mapping? (VWR and APR are in the same building)
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You may as well add a HPFP to your list and get a custom map tailored to your mods, Stage 1+. You "may" get clutch slip from Stage 1 with those extra torques but then again.....
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I ran APR Stage1 and APR Stage1+ (With HPFP) on OEM Clutch (MK2 Leon Cupra R)
Clutch was fine!
i then had a 3"downpipe and 100cel sports cat fitted and it started slipping straight away (Without Mapping)
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thats spot on - I was hoping for about 50BHP extra so that looks on the money - I dont think any more than that for fast road is a good idea anyway.
I assume the standard clutch can handle the extra? or do people change those out too? and what about the brakes? is standard ok with fast road pads or should I be looking at S3 swap or brembo etc
You need a Downpipe for your other mods to make as Richwig said towards 300bhp, without them then an intake and cat back aren't gonna give you full benefit.Again intercooler will benefit in the summer somewhat but the Downpipe is the one that is basically the key to the other mods, or you looking at much smaller gains. 290bhp at absolute most with your list.
Improved brake pads are worth it.
If your not keen on bigger figures then I would sell the Vwr intake, and put an improved panel filter instead. :happy2:
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thats spot on - I was hoping for about 50BHP extra so that looks on the money - I dont think any more than that for fast road is a good idea anyway.
I assume the standard clutch can handle the extra? or do people change those out too? and what about the brakes? is standard ok with fast road pads or should I be looking at S3 swap or brembo etc
You need a Downpipe for your other mods to make as Richwig said towards 300bhp, without them then an intake and cat back aren't gonna give you full benefit.Again intercooler will benefit in the summer somewhat but the Downpipe is the one that is basically the key to the other mods, or you looking at much smaller gains. 290bhp at absolute most with your list.
Improved brake pads are worth it.
If your not keen on bigger figures then I would sell the Vwr intake, and put an improved panel filter instead. :happy2:
Why did mine make 311 then?
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thats spot on - I was hoping for about 50BHP extra so that looks on the money - I dont think any more than that for fast road is a good idea anyway.
I assume the standard clutch can handle the extra? or do people change those out too? and what about the brakes? is standard ok with fast road pads or should I be looking at S3 swap or brembo etc
You need a Downpipe for your other mods to make as Richwig said towards 300bhp, without them then an intake and cat back aren't gonna give you full benefit.Again intercooler will benefit in the summer somewhat but the Downpipe is the one that is basically the key to the other mods, or you looking at much smaller gains. 290bhp at absolute most with your list.
Improved brake pads are worth it.
If your not keen on bigger figures then I would sell the Vwr intake, and put an improved panel filter instead. :happy2:
Why did mine make 311 then?
Loose straps on the dyno :chicken: :signLOL:
What mods do you have rich? If you have a DSG map you can knock 10-15bhp straight away :wink:
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Speak to nik... he dyno'd it.
Revo stage 1+DSG map and evoms. :happy2:
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Speak to nik... he dyno'd it.
Revo stage 1+DSG map and evoms. :happy2:
Evoms has the best gains from a CAI setup. Without the DSG map yours would be around 295bhp in that case.
I saw what happens when you add a remap to DSG cars... Very surprising how much power is gained by raising the rev limiter.
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Meh...
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Meh...
:innocent:
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Speak to nik... he dyno'd it.
Revo stage 1+DSG map and evoms. :happy2:
More than impressive out of a Stage 1 Eddy with just a CAI? Some peeps are proper p*ssed off, making around that, running stage 2+.
If I get that with Stage 2 (and a new uprated clutch) with ££££ worth of mods on board I'll be we'll chuffed. :laugh:
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Steve... just remembered. My car made 289 on niks dyno, "pre intake" :wink:
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Steve... just remembered. My car made 289 on niks dyno, "pre intake" :wink:
So if you remove Niki's DSG map then if that's the case,then it proves what I was saying then :smiley:
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Steve... just remembered. My car made 289 on niks dyno, "pre intake" :wink:
So if you remove Niki's DSG map then if that's the case,then it proves what I was saying then :smiley:
I dont have his dsg map.. :confused:
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Steve... just remembered. My car made 289 on niks dyno, "pre intake" :wink:
So if you remove Niki's DSG map then if that's the case,then it proves what I was saying then :smiley:
I dont have his dsg map.. :confused:
There isn't any difference in Revo's DSG map and his Rich..only his TIV engine remapping just so you know.
By raising the rev limiter on a DSG map, the only thing that's changeable is rev limit, and shift timing..nothing can be made more powerful from Niki's handywork when it comes to power gains when talking DSG remaps :wink:
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Because he doesn't have a Downpipe :confused:
He has a cat back only, which won't make any gain unless he adds a Downpipe.
Or you could just read what I said in the 1st place :rolleye:
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Or go to Regal or Superchips Rollers and anythings possible :notworthy:
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Or go to Regal or Superchips Rollers and any things possible :notworthy:
:popcornsoda:
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Or go to Regal or Superchips Rollers and any things possible :notworthy:
:popcornsoda:
I've been there with my standard car and made 256bhp back before you were born Rich :laugh:
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Yeah... and it took you until a few weeks ago to realise it was sh*t and become the forum resident tuning expert.... :love:
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Yeah... and it took you until a few weeks ago to realise it was sh*t and become the forum resident tuning expert.... :love:
never said Bluefin was sh*te at any stage.... Nice try though :P
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Head still in the sand.... :laugh:
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Head still in the sand.... :laugh:
Erhhh no :confused:
Just learnt alot from someone that knows how to tune.. You should give him a call aswell :laugh:
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LOL..... you keep saying that. Not happening....
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LOL..... you keep saying that. Not happening....
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Whatever trevor :grin:
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Haha, is this a private diss?
So down pipe and high flow cat then u say,
Good point about apr mind, do people rate them.
How do people find the dive at 300bhp as this is daily drive.
Also when buying the car is dsg better than manual as a drivers car.
Which brake kits do people go for, and clutches
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Because he doesn't have a Downpipe :confused:
He has a cat back only, which won't make any gain unless he adds a Downpipe.
Or you could just read what I said in the 1st place :rolleye:
i went to r tech with a just a cat back and made 305 on v power?
so with just a tune 300 bhp is achievable!
or are you saying r techs rollers arent reliable?
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So why do you think that the OP wont make 300 then? IM almost certain he will.
Because he doesn't have a Downpipe :confused:
He has a cat back only, which won't make any gain unless he adds a Downpipe.
Or you could just read what I said in the 1st place :rolleye:
i went to r tech with a just a cat back and made 305 on v power?
so with just a tune 300 bhp is achievable!
or are you saying r techs rollers arent reliable?
This is about REVO not what Niki has achieved with his mapping :confused: