MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: mk4gti-t on May 22, 2013, 12:29:49 pm
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Im looking at fitting an air intake/induction kit to my 2005 Gti. It's a standard car at the moment and the most im going to modify it performance wise is cat back exhaust, intake and remap. The induction kit wont be making much in the way of bhp, i just love the chatter when you lift off :happy2:
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CAI's from £200-£450 so depends on your budget really.
ITG, APR/VWR, FORGE Twintake and REVO are the more expensive ones and EVOMS, Nuespeed, AMD, Volant are less so. Have a look at the ITG and EVOMS, covers both ends (cost wise) and probably not a load of difference in their performance, both are good. ITG for whoosh dish and EVOMS for a bit of cha cha cha.
EDIT: Evoms CAI on eBay ATM, may go cheap. Don't know if its for your car or a K04 though, you'd have to ask as you can't tell from the picture.
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Thanks, that help alot. My budget is going to be about £150 and saw this on ebay -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-INDUCTION-KIT-VW-Golf-Mk5-2-0-FSi-Turbo-GTi-/290647489844?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43abf0bd34 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIPERCROSS-INDUCTION-KIT-VW-Golf-Mk5-2-0-FSi-Turbo-GTi-/290647489844?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43abf0bd34)
Any good or just cheap rubbish?
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That just attaches to your OEM engine cover IIRC so not really worth it IMHO. Save up a wee bit more and get a EVOMS or a second hand ITG of Forge Twintake, they're always popping up in the for sale section.
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Ok will do cheers for the info. :happy2:
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I have a ITG on at the moment but that's a £350 option. Before that I had a carbonio carbon intake which with the mods your planning will give you everything you need and they sound good. You can here them sucking the air in. Plus they look good when you pop your bonnet. If you watch on eBay you can pick a second hand one up for about £100-£120 there are some carbon speed ones on eBay at £185 new but not used one of these.
Unless you want big power don't bother with expensive intakes.
J
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Fitted a twintake to mine (ed30)after much research,don't think I really like it since fitting it is very whooshey which is great but what I don't like is half throttle on boost it sounds like its struggling and can here the divertor fluttering terribly.might sell it
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The ITG is honestly absolutely brilliant, it sounds good and just breathes really well know matter what rev range your at. I can highly recommend it. If you decide to sell your forge I'd go ITG but again that's just me.
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The Neuspeed is our biggest seller and a great option
http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/Neuspeed-P%252dFlo-Air-Intake-Kit-%252d2.0T-K03.html
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Its only a great seller due to price.... :wink: If the evoms were 190 quid, then everyone would have one.
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Its only a great seller due to price.... :wink: If the evoms were 190 quid, then everyone would have one.
Amen to that, yeah I would like to try a itg or go out with someone who has one. I would love to do a swap with someone too for the itg although I live the twintake looks.
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^^^^ got rid of my ITG ages ago due to the noise. Some peeps love em' and some, less so. Its not called Darth Vadar for no reason and living with (what sounds like) an asthmatic in the cabin soon losses its appeal. Out of the 3 I've had, EVOMS is the best IMO although I got rid of that one too, REVO or APR/VWR next for me.
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Hmmmm yeah I know what you mean the twintake is worse than darth on boost, maybe ill try revo or apr. who knows I thought I would limit and yeah I did initially but for a daily is not so great especially when you get the looks of a chav from the locals as its worse when stage 1 and dsg as when you come of boost trying to be a creeping Jesus goes out the window. Maybe ill just flick the stock air box on and just do everything else to get to stage 2 plus.
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I'm looking into an intake, is their a quiet one? not keen on something loud.
Si
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Hmmmm yeah I know what you mean the twintake is worse than darth on boost, maybe ill try revo or apr. who knows I thought I would limit and yeah I did initially but for a daily is not so great especially when you get the looks of a chav from the locals as its worse when stage 1 and dsg as when you come of boost trying to be a creeping Jesus goes out the window. Maybe ill just flick the stock air box on and just do everything else to get to stage 2 plus.
IIRC there's a fair few peeps running stage 2 (and LOADS running Stage 1) with the OEM engine cover in place and either an OEM panel filter or an aftermarket one, such as the ITG one or Pipercross one with no problems at all.
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EVOMS for a bit of cha cha cha.
LMAO :grin: :happy2:
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MC 71, just wondering did you get rid of the ITG because you didn't like the noise style or because it was to loud ?
It's just when you said you preferred the evoms its just when I heard an evoms I thought it was louder than the ITG !
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Yeah recently upgraded to Pipercross panel. Only going to Stage 1.5 I think, pre cat and map. So might just keep stock set-up.
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MC 71, just wondering did you get rid of the ITG because you didn't like the noise style or because it was to loud ?
It's just when you said you preferred the evoms its just when I heard an evoms I thought it was louder than the ITG !
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For me the reason for getting rid of the ITG Maxogen was loudness (and that alone) and not the noise style. Out of the 2 I honestly preferred the sound of the ITG but (personally) I thought the EVOMS was a wee bit less invasive in the cabin, noise wise. No direct comparison as I didn't run one straight after the other. I'm just a bit fussy so will probably get the APR/VWR CAI with its cannister and see what that's like re loudness and cabin noise.
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Thanks for the tips mate ill be hoping to chase 380hp so will see if the stock filter would flow or maybe just make my own intake
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Where are you located, if your close buy ill let you have a listen to my ITG
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I've heard an Evoms on a Revo stage 2 ed30 , and my Forge Twintake on my stage 2 Ed30, and noise in the cabin is roughly the same.
There is no such thing as a quiet induction Kit :laugh:
If you want quiet, then stick a panel filter in your oem housing or a Carbonio which won't give you any notable bhp but might increase your throttle/torque response ever so slightly.
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My Volant closed IK has the best of both worlds, quite subtle whilst driving normally, but includes all the usual induction noises when you get on it; I'm very happy with it.... only prob. is that it costs a bit getting it from the US.
What I liked about it was the OEM look to it:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vividracing.com%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2Fvolant-cai-volkswagen-gti-0608-1.jpg&hash=28ef64dd3776922a201635f19fb1f7d048025376)
It takes the air feed from the usual place and from behind the headlight similar to the twintake in that fashion.
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Its only a great seller due to price.... :wink: If the evoms were 190 quid, then everyone would have one.
Although I see where you are coming from, the Neuspeed is far from a poor bit of kit and well up to the job, especially for what I suppose you could class as light tuning (stage 1/2/3 on a K03 GTI.)
I had one on my K03 GTI and it was great :happy2:
I used an ITG on my stage 3 K04 S3 as I thought the bigger bore prior to the MAF was warranted on that.
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My Volant closed IK has the best of both worlds, quite subtle whilst driving normally, but includes all the usual induction noises when you get on it; I'm very happy with it.... only prob. is that it costs a bit getting it from the US.
What I liked about it was the OEM look to it:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vividracing.com%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2Fvolant-cai-volkswagen-gti-0608-1.jpg&hash=28ef64dd3776922a201635f19fb1f7d048025376)
It takes the air feed from the usual place and from behind the headlight similar to the twintake in that fashion.
This is epic I really want one of these but don't know about how to order? Us ebay? Surely even with import tax wouldn't cost as much as a twintake?
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My Volant closed IK has the best of both worlds, quite subtle whilst driving normally, but includes all the usual induction noises when you get on it; I'm very happy with it.... only prob. is that it costs a bit getting it from the US.
What I liked about it was the OEM look to it:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vividracing.com%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2Fvolant-cai-volkswagen-gti-0608-1.jpg&hash=28ef64dd3776922a201635f19fb1f7d048025376)
It takes the air feed from the usual place and from behind the headlight similar to the twintake in that fashion.
This is epic I really want one of these but don't know about how to order? Us ebay? Surely even with import tax wouldn't cost as much as a twintake?
Pretty sure that picture is of my old ED30 fitted with the Volant "Powercore" Intake, I bought it from a parts dealer in USA (WCP Diesel) and had it shipped to a mate in (Texas) USA (Shipped free from dealer to my mate) who forwarded it to me (Cost around £40 in shipping from memory), I bought it because no one else had one and I liked the look of it, I did not like the look of the ITG (Blue Peter toilet roll and grannies clunge sponge) and the Twintake was a bit bling for me!, I think Scotty may have bought it from me in January?.
I did a sort of review, link below, with shipping and VAT (if your unlucky enough to pay it), I doubt you will pay more than £210 for one, think it cost me £198 shipped (plus K04 Take off pipe £23), fitting around 30 mins.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,43434.0.html
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It is yours mate, my engine bay is dirty in comparison (http://www.voodish.co.uk/misc/New-GTI-Grill.jpg), so stole your pic :happy2:
It works out a lot more expensive when you have to pay taxes, think mine came to ~£250... which was more than I wanted to pay tbh... but at least it's different and as said, I like the OEM look.
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I really like the look of the above set up, any chance of a video?
Any links to where can buy?
Si
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It's much quieter than an open air, infact when driven normally you'd barely notice it:
Volant Powercore
Compared to a Neuspeed P-Flo:
Neither video is mine.
IF you want the noise all the time, then go for an open cone, otherwise a closed system will suit you better.
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Has anyone had any ex with the Pipercross filter that connects to the original engine cover?
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Cheers, love the Volant Powercore.
Anyone know where to buy one? Or one for sale?
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^^^^ American eBay or direct from Volant in the US of A. :happy2:
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It's much quieter than an open air, infact when driven normally you'd barely notice it:
Volant Powercore
Compared to a Neuspeed P-Flo:
Neither video is mine.
IF you want the noise all the time, then go for an open cone, otherwise a closed system will suit you better.
The bottom video is my car, it is a loud intake and can at time draw attention your way.
It chatters and dumps very loud. I personally like it and think that it is a great bit of kit for the price. Easy to fit (except the clip that holds the intake pipe above the turbo, very tight to get at).
if you go to my youtube page from that video there are a few videos of the sound inside the car.
cheers
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^^^^ American eBay or direct from Volant in the US of A. :happy2:
Cheers, just had a look $900! Plus shipping, taxes etc. Dam like it but not at £500
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Or just found this site:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volant-powercore-cold-air-intake-volkswagen-gti-20l-0608-p-108224.html?currency=GBP
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It is yours mate, my engine bay is dirty in comparison (http://www.voodish.co.uk/misc/New-GTI-Grill.jpg), so stole your pic :happy2:
It works out a lot more expensive when you have to pay taxes, think mine came to ~£250... which was more than I wanted to pay tbh... but at least it's different and as said, I like the OEM look.
Different and still substantially cheaper than twintake or ITG/VWR :happy2:
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Or just found this site:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volant-powercore-cold-air-intake-volkswagen-gti-20l-0608-p-108224.html?currency=GBP
Pretty sure I paid £148 for mine plus shipping from USA, add VAT to that if the shipping label is legible
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Or just found this site:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volant-powercore-cold-air-intake-volkswagen-gti-20l-0608-p-108224.html?currency=GBP
Pretty sure I paid £148 for mine plus shipping from USA, add VAT to that if the shipping label is legible
Do you have a link to the site you got it from? Or name of company, cheers that price sounds great.
Si
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Or just found this site:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volant-powercore-cold-air-intake-volkswagen-gti-20l-0608-p-108224.html?currency=GBP
Pretty sure I paid £148 for mine plus shipping from USA, add VAT to that if the shipping label is legible
Do you have a link to the site you got it from? Or name of company, cheers that price sounds great.
Si
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The company is called "WCP Diesel" in USA, you can find them on google easily, price comes up as $270 but you can make an offer, start low and keep increasing by $5 eventually you will get the lowest price they will accept, pretty sure it converted to around £148 or £158 (It was 15 months ago I forget).
Enjoy.
If you have a relative/mate in USA they offer free shipping included in price and get your mate to send on, otherwise arrange with company.
Might be a good option to arrange your own courier if you have access and WCP will allow it.
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Cheers, site says they will accept $243, about £160. Hmmm how to get delivered...
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I must have paid £158 then with slightly different exchange rate.
You could ask if you could organise your own courier (UPS are usually cheapest using their "Express Saver" service) that way you fill in the forms yourself to ensure correct delivery.
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Mine cost £60 to deliver but then got burnt by ~£45 duty...
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Cheers guys. I'll look into best way to get one here.
Si
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Off to Florida in September, looks like I'm going to have to leave a spare 5kg in the suitcase :smiley:
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If you after a ITG INTAKE check out eBay item 181147019767
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I've ordered one from amazon.com two days ago and dhl have just rung me to say they have just tried to deliver! It cost £265 including delivery and import tax however the tax was a bit odd and was only an estimate so they said I may be due a part refund if the actual cost is less. I know its a bit more than others have paid however I thought it was safer using amazon than trying to arrange delivery myself. Will collect tonight if I get chance.
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I've ordered one from amazon.com two days ago and dhl have just rung me to say they have just tried to deliver! It cost £265 including delivery and import tax however the tax was a bit odd and was only an estimate so they said I may be due a part refund if the actual cost is less. I know its a bit more than others have paid however I thought it was safer using amazon than trying to arrange delivery myself. Will collect tonight if I get chance.
Sounds good mate, got a link?
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^^^^ Here you go....
~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.amazon.com/Volant-411520-PowerCore-Cool-Intake/dp/B00400KQAK/ref=sr_1_76?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1370018675&sr=1-76&keywords=volant+cold+air+intake)
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^^^^ Here you go....
~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://www.amazon.com/Volant-411520-PowerCore-Cool-Intake/dp/B00400KQAK/ref=sr_1_76?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1370018675&sr=1-76&keywords=volant+cold+air+intake)
i really like the look of this,
I wander if you could install another larger filter though?
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Looks like its for a K03.... just to warn you.
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Can buy an add on for the K04 which is discussed in another thread about this intake not got the link right now.
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Cheers guys, so this fits non editions? I have a K03 on my standard GTi.
Si
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^^^^ the Volant system is for K03 cars but can be modified for K04 cars with a 25mm take off Valve IIRC. Will be fine as it is for your Mk5 GTI. :happy2:
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Right fitted mine today and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. I love the look, engine bay looks much better with the engine cover removed and the product is good quality however I am not overly keen on the noise it makes.
I was hoping it was going to be quiet from what I've read however you can hear it sucking air from the glove box area and when you release the throttle it makes a kind of whoosh disssh similar to a dump valve sound but not as loud.
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That's cai mate I told you this.
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Right fitted mine today and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. I love the look, engine bay looks much better with the engine cover removed and the product is good quality however I am not overly keen on the noise it makes.
I was hoping it was going to be quiet from what I've read however you can hear it sucking air from the glove box area and when you release the throttle it makes a kind of whoosh disssh similar to a dump valve sound but not as loud.
Any chance of getting a video up?
Sorry to hear not happy mate.
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Cheer up that sound is costing me a small fortune :pomppomp: but yeh everyone is different :signLOL:
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Right fitted mine today and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. I love the look, engine bay looks much better with the engine cover removed and the product is good quality however I am not overly keen on the noise it makes.
I was hoping it was going to be quiet from what I've read however you can hear it sucking air from the glove box area and when you release the throttle it makes a kind of whoosh disssh similar to a dump valve sound but not as loud.
They all do this, its not really something that can be avoided with induction kits. if its any conciliation, Id be shocked if it ws as loud as an ITG or Evoms.
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It's as quiet as your going to get from a CAI on the TFSi engine. If you want just looks, grab a Carbonio. :happy2:
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Right fitted mine today and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. I love the look, engine bay looks much better with the engine cover removed and the product is good quality however I am not overly keen on the noise it makes.
I was hoping it was going to be quiet from what I've read however you can hear it sucking air from the glove box area and when you release the throttle it makes a kind of whoosh disssh similar to a dump valve sound but not as loud.
They all do this, its not really something that can be avoided with induction kits. if its any conciliation, Id be shocked if it ws as loud as an ITG or Evoms.
It's not as loud as ITG or twintake, I heard them both on GTI's and Edition 30's before I opted for Volant.
If you have an aftermarket exhaust you wont hear it, if its std exhaust you will notice it for while until you get used to it
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I'm going to sell my Volant I think as after 2 weeks I don't think I can live with the noise its not that loud but it just annoys me. I will put up a couple of pictures if anyone is interested once it is off the car.
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How much will it be for sale for?
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Its done less than 100 miles so its basically new. £230 posted.
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What's the best intake as am looking into a decent induction kit??
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For best gains.. Evoms.
For best eye candy.. Forge twin take. Lots of carbon fibre :grin:
Unless you have a weirdness in not liking Stainless steel jubilee clips :chicken:
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ITG is also a very good bet. I had one and achieved fantastic gains with it.
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Evoms only available in the US?
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^^^^ Regal Autosport sell them for £285 and another £25 for the heat shield.
~~ Clicky here ~~ (http://regal-shop-px.rtrk.co.uk/vw/acatalog/MK5-Golf-.html)
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ITG Maxogen its pricey but worth it in my opinion :happy2: