MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Rich on August 07, 2009, 10:31:36 pm
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Yes - i bet this topic has come up many a times...
My Pirelli doesnt come with Xenons... and i would love them... :love:
I want the real deal too with the level adjusters... does anyone know what VW would charge for xenon lamps + fitting and everything else such as level adjusters ?
Sorry if this has been mention before
Cheers
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Hi Rich,
There is a thread on that here http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5223.0,
Cheers,
R
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Rich, three words.
USE THE SEARCH
:wink: :laugh: :laugh:
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Not read the thread linked but I'm sure it will tell you that the kit is available from Kufatec, not cheap for the headlights I might add. I very much doubt a VW franchised dealer would want to get involved.
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Rich, IMHO I think you should just take delivery of the car and see how you find the standards. They are easily and cheaply upgradeable as I have done with my ED30.
No need to throw bucketfulls of cash at it.......................... :wink:
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Ive had Xenons on my last 5 cars, even having adaptive xenons on my RS4, so to come to an ED30 without, what a bit of a shock. However, I have just upgraded to Osram Nigh beaters and they make all the difference - No need for xenons now
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I really like the look of them though...
I did use the search engine lol... but i couldnt find a price quoted from the Dealers... or rough price :party:
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Can someone tell me the type of bulb i need...
I'm interested in getting some of these osram night beaters and also some white sidelight bulbs...
It is a H4, H7 xx ???
Are Dipped and main the same bulb or seperate?
Thanks,
Z
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Hi Zub Rich,
Full Beam and Dipped Main Beam are seperate H7 Bulbs, to be honest its not really worth chaning the full Beam, but the dipped makes a big diference.
I would upgrade your sidelights (5W) to Osram's or Philipps too as your standard ones will look very yellow against the Night Breakers, there was a post on the same subject earlier in the week too,
Rich
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They are about £2000 last time someone checked mate. To be done legally with the level adjusters etc :surprised:
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To pass an MOT levelers and washers are not needed! I am considering getting some for my golf! If they are adjusted correctly you will pass. The actual Xenon's go for around £400 on ebay! :drinking:
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Yeah but the work involved runs into the thousands mate! It isnt worth it!
I am shocked the GTI didnt come with xenon's standard!
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What work are you referring to mate?
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The headlight washers are expensive to fit, also the self leveling height adjuster.
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The headlight washers are expensive to fit, also the self leveling height adjuster.
Yes but they are not needed for the MOT so alot of people do not use them. As long as they are adjusted correctly you will pass! :happy2:
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Hi
Just changed my headlight bulbs to a hid kit from HIDS4U
I had them in my last motor a mk4 gti for 3-4yrs no problems with mot
with them fitted without washers or headlighyt level adjusters
heres a couple of pics of the brackets i made to fit them
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/stuupnorth/DSCF1407.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/stuupnorth/DSCF1401.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/stuupnorth/DSCF1409.jpg
Stu
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The headlight washers are expensive to fit, also the self leveling height adjuster.
Yes but they are not needed for the MOT so alot of people do not use them. As long as they are adjusted correctly you will pass! :happy2:
Its a legal requirement. MOT is simply a road worthy test.
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Alot of things are legal requirements but are they all followed. :innocent: What I am simply saying is if you want to fit them then your car you do not need to worry about failing the MOT which alot of people do. Plus if they are correctly adjusted (which they would be) i highly doubt or have heard of anyone being stopped by the police due to them not having levelers or washers!
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Maybe not. Not sure how insurance would see it though! Could blame your aftermarket headlights not having the required legal parts and so no pay out
Is it worth it?
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Are they classed as aftermarket even if they are OEM?
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OEM would have the washers and auto levelers.
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Well I dont know how insurance stand on it but surely if the car is deemed roadworthy there is nothing they can say? :confused:
Alot of chavtastic cars have aftermarket HIDs which blind everything (and they still drive round with police not stopping them) so surely if you use VW headlights which are properly adjusted and deemed road-legal this is surely a better way?
I not really sure but I know a few people who have done this and have had not trouble and if I get some xenons i will probibly follow suit! :drinking:
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To pass an MOT levelers and washers are not needed! I am considering getting some for my golf! If they are adjusted correctly you will pass. The actual Xenon's go for around £400 on ebay! :drinking:
ANY car with xenon headlights which does NOT have automatic levelers and headlamp washers will NOT be legal - irrespective of weather you can get a dodgy MoT!!!!!
Retro-fitting Xenon bulbs into halogen headlamp housings is highly illegal, and fcuking dangerous too!!!
I suggest you strongly look at the DfT website!
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The headlight washers are expensive to fit, also the self leveling height adjuster.
Yes but they are not needed for the MOT so alot of people do not use them. As long as they are adjusted correctly you will pass! :happy2:
HORSESH!T - they will NOT be legal. An MoT does NOT define weather a car complies with Construction and Use Regulations Act. Ask any competent traffic plod!
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Alot of things are legal requirements but are they all followed. :innocent: What I am simply saying is if you want to fit them then your car you do not need to worry about failing the MOT which alot of people do. Plus if they are correctly adjusted (which they would be) i highly doubt or have heard of anyone being stopped by the police due to them not having levelers or washers!
But not only are they NOT legal - they are actually highly dangerous - which is why the governments DfT have issued very strict instructions to both VOSA and ACPO. Furthermore, if you have a prang in your car with illegal Xenons, then your insurance will be INVALID, and if the dodgy headlamps are found to be a contributory factor to the accident, not only will you be prosecuted for no insurance, you will also be prosecuted for attempted MANSLAUGHTER - and you will be on your own!
Stop buring your f.ing thick head in the sand - these are illegal and dangerous!
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OEM would have the washers and auto levelers.
Exactly. It all comes down to something called 'Type Approval'. Look at the bottom of your pax B pillar, a black sticker will have a VIN and Type Approval - the manufacturer of the car is legally required to keep all data on the car for the lifetime of the said car - and both the plod and insurance companies/assessors can lawfully ask for the Type Approval certificate - which basically quotes the EXACT spec of the car when it left the Wolfsburg factory. If your Type Approval is for halogens, and you have xenons fitted - you are in deep sh!t.
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Stop buring your f.ing thick head in the sand - these are illegal and dangerous!
TT all you can do is advise people of what is or isnt legal. Your advice will just get lost if you speak to people like this. :happy2:
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Well I dont know how insurance stand on it but surely if the car is deemed roadworthy there is nothing they can say? :confused:
Just because a car may be deemed 'roadworthy' with a valid MoT - it don't make it legal - two very different issues!
Alot of chavtastic cars have aftermarket HIDs which blind everything (and they still drive round with police not stopping them)
But if you manage to drive past a plod at 90mph and not get nicked - still doesn't make driving at 90 legal!
so surely if you use VW headlights which are properly adjusted and deemed road-legal this is surely a better way?
I not really sure but I know a few people who have done this and have had not trouble and if I get some xenons i will probibly follow suit! :drinking:
But they won't be legal
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:congrats: Horsesh*t all you you like :booty:
im not burying my f*cking head in the sand so how about you give your advice with less of the im a dick attitude! :stupid:
If you are correct then well done but it still makes no difference to what I said. Washers and levelers are not a part of the MOT! If they are adjusted correctly you will pass! And the comment of the hids in halogen housing was to show that police will rarely stop them with these let alone correctly adjusted VW ones.
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Not more Popcorn!! :laugh:
Nice to see you back shaun :smiley:
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Washers and levelers are not a part of the MOT!
Still eagerly awaiting TT's reply to this :signLOL:
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:signLOL:
Im not being a dick and you are probably correct with the bits you are saying but I am also correct with what I am saying so we will leave it at that!
:happy2:
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:congrats: Horsesh*t all you you like :booty:
im not burying my f*cking head in the sand so how about you give your advice with less of the im a dick attitude! :stupid:
If you are correct then well done but it still makes no difference to what I said. Washers and levelers are not a part of the MOT! If they are adjusted correctly you will pass! And the comment of the hids in halogen housing was to show that police will rarely stop them with these let alone correctly adjusted VW ones.
Correct... my mate passed MOT without Washers and Levelers
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:congrats: Horsesh*t all you you like :booty:
im not burying my f*cking head in the sand so how about you give your advice with less of the im a dick attitude! :stupid:
If you are correct then well done but it still makes no difference to what I said. Washers and levelers are not a part of the MOT! If they are adjusted correctly you will pass! And the comment of the hids in halogen housing was to show that police will rarely stop them with these let alone correctly adjusted VW ones.
Correct... my mate passed MOT without Washers and Levelers
As has already been said, an MOT is not a test of the legality of your car, its merely a road worthiness test.
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Hi Zub Rich,
Full Beam and Dipped Main Beam are seperate H7 Bulbs, to be honest its not really worth chaning the full Beam, but the dipped makes a big diference.
I would upgrade your sidelights (5W) to Osram's or Philipps too as your standard ones will look very yellow against the Night Breakers, there was a post on the same subject earlier in the week too,
Rich
Are you sure main is not an H1 bulb?
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rich, if your properly serious, i could fit the xenons and levellers
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They are both H7 in my car, dont know if they changed it at some point
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Don't want to stir it up more here , but I can remember reading that Xenons have washers because the light they produce deteriates more than halogen light when they get dirty. I think that , strictly, they are not legal without the means to clean them and keep the required lighting. With the MoT , its probably the case that its just not enforced properly. Is it a case of the tester thinking "if its not on the car, it doesn't need testing" ?
Chris.