MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: 18Edition30 on June 24, 2013, 09:44:51 pm

Title: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: 18Edition30 on June 24, 2013, 09:44:51 pm
The s3 cooler upgrade on edition 30.....is it actually worth it?

How much bigger is the cooler than Ed30 one?

Expected benefits? More bhp? Lower intake temps?

Will
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: edd666999 on June 24, 2013, 09:58:08 pm
depends on your stage of tune. but yes More bhp, Lower intake temps and more power for longer
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: 18Edition30 on June 24, 2013, 10:07:26 pm
Stage 1....
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: edd666999 on June 24, 2013, 10:14:54 pm
Stage 1....

IMO money would be better spent on handling/brakes mods.

But if you go further then id get one.
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 24, 2013, 10:19:42 pm
IMO stage 1 it isnt needed, stage 2 you should be considering it.
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: scopes on June 24, 2013, 10:31:08 pm
depends on your stage of tune. but yes More bhp, Lower intake temps and more power for longer

How much more can be expected, to run it with a twintercooler?

What would the benefit's be say with a s2, s2+ ?

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: edd666999 on June 24, 2013, 10:46:01 pm
depends on your stage of tune. but yes More bhp, Lower intake temps and more power for longer

How much more can be expected, to run it with a twintercooler?

What would the benefit's be say with a s2, s2+ ?

 :popcornsoda:

TBH i look at it that it doesn't increase power, but it allows you to go all day long keeping the same power.

As heat soak takes over your engine will lose power...think someone quoted me 1degree is 1bhp and a stage2+ k03 engine without cooler after 2 runs is 50 degrees hotter than one with a cooler, so that's 50bhp because of your temperature.

Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: scopes on June 24, 2013, 10:53:39 pm
Ed I could not have asked for it to be explained any better  :notworthy: :notworthy:

So the temps need to be reduced to keep engine power lasting longer  :happy2:

So with the twintercooler and the s3 cooler, that would be a perfect combination?
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: edd666999 on June 24, 2013, 11:28:20 pm
Ed I could not have asked for it to be explained any better  :notworthy: :notworthy:

So the temps need to be reduced to keep engine power lasting longer  :happy2:

So with the twintercooler and the s3 cooler, that would be a perfect combination?

that would be a good combination. I just have the s3 cooler and my temps have never been an issue.
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: scopes on June 24, 2013, 11:36:10 pm
I'm sure someone will be along soon, that has done both to compare  :grin:
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: Itsagthing on June 25, 2013, 07:23:53 am
Just a twintercooler on my oe eddy cooler is perfect there really is no need for the s3 as well. Stg 2+
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: berg on June 25, 2013, 08:12:04 am
depends on your stage of tune. but yes More bhp, Lower intake temps and more power for longer

How much more can be expected, to run it with a twintercooler?

What would the benefit's be say with a s2, s2+ ?

 :popcornsoda:


i run one with a twintercoooler, gained a fair bit more power but lost 10lb ft of torque due to greater area of air, still you cant feel the loss but you could certainly feel the extra power top end  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: daz_pd on July 04, 2013, 08:17:39 pm
S3 Cooler on my Stage 2 TSI, noticable difference for sure, and I find the power is more consistant, on the RR a while back on 3 pulls one after the other I was gaining power rather than losing it!
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: DAZ1985 on July 06, 2013, 09:36:00 am
Daz_pd have you the one with alloy ends or plastic?
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: daz_pd on July 06, 2013, 10:02:24 am
Daz_pd have you the one with alloy ends or plastic?

Plastic mate, everyone says the Alloy ones are better but I would say the difference would be very very slight in our climate, perhaps on a track yes, but I dont do trackdays.
Title: Re: Is the S3 cooler actually worth it?
Post by: E30Dom on July 07, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
S3 is fine at stage 2+... But if you looking for big power the go THS/APR Etc...