MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: cupra_k1 on July 03, 2013, 07:58:35 pm
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Seems my throttle body has died :sad1:
EMS light lit up on the dash and no power at all, so I plugged the car into VCDS and found the following fault code:
000546 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188)
P0222 - 002 - Signal Too Low
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 59777 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:46:11
Can anyone advise me the best place to source a new one and how much I'm looking to pay?
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ffs, these are dropping like flies; what's the mileage / tune - also what's the symptoms before death?
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Mine Died on Saturday :sad1: :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
Alex at AKS is fitting mine this week
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37k wtf. :rolleye: Do I own a ridicolous Mk5, on 118k orig clutch/dmf/tb tuned since 50k!!
No symptoms at all mate. I just squirted it out of a junction and the power instantly cut back, the EMS appeared on the dash and would not build boost. I cleared the fault and all was well till I planted the throttle again.
Yeah the cars only covered 37k and is running Stage 2+ and WMI. Maybe the WMI is a contributing factor?
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Mine Died on Saturday :sad1: :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
Alex at AKS is fitting mine this week
Do you know what Alex charges to supply only mate?
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It's happened on a wide variety of Tfsi Stock, tuned, new & old. :sad1:
Mines at 69k miles
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Mine Died on Saturday :sad1: :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
Alex at AKS is fitting mine this week
Do you know what Alex charges to supply only mate?
Can tell you when I get mine fixed mate, or drop him a PM :happy2:
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37k wtf. :rolleye: Do I own a ridicolous Mk5, on 118k orig clutch/dmf/tb tuned since 50k!!
Maybe the WMI is a contributing factor?
Are you using a spacer?
121k here with never any issues.
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Prob wont be the wmi that's caused it. Just that the old vdo throttle bodies are sh*t.
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Prob wont be the wmi that's caused it. Just that the old vdo throttle bodies are sh*t.
Alex will mine have a VDO one? or they different on the CDLA?
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Are you using a spacer?
121k here with never any issues.
Yes mate I am using a spacer, but I'm running a dual nozzle setup so actually injecting before the TB aswell. I have had WMI switched off for the 3-4 weeks though, so I don't think its down to meth ingress.
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I got one if interested. 45quid posted. It's a used one but works fine got it spare when I bought a replacement engine. Pm if interested
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now on to revision Q :signLOL: my flapper motor was the next thing to go :sad1:
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Prob wont be the wmi that's caused it. Just that the old oem throttle bodies are sh*t.
What do you replace them with?
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I got one if interested. 45quid posted. It's a used one but works fine got it spare when I bought a replacement engine. Pm if interested
Every used one I've fitted, even if it was known to work, ended up not working and having the same fault.
Only fit new ones now.
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now on to revision Q :signLOL: my flapper motor was the next thing to go :sad1:
Throttle body failure can cause the flapper motor to die too. Sometimes brings up the flapper fault, but leaving the car for a few days tends to clear the fault for good.
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Prob wont be the wmi that's caused it. Just that the old oem throttle bodies are sh*t.
What do you replace them with?
Latest rev Q which is vdo continental rather than vdo Siemens.
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now on to revision Q :signLOL: my flapper motor was the next thing to go :sad1:
Throttle body failure can cause the flapper motor to die too. Sometimes brings up the flapper fault, but leaving the car for a few days tends to clear the fault for good.
:scared: :scared:
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now on to revision Q :signLOL: my flapper motor was the next thing to go :sad1:
Throttle body failure can cause the flapper motor to die too. Sometimes brings up the flapper fault, but leaving the car for a few days tends to clear the fault for good.
:signLOL:
It was an old part anyway, rev c ... the new part rev E must be faster with more bhp :wink:
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 115 J HW: 1K0 907 115 F
Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
Software Coding: 0403000318070060
Work Shop Code: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 2D555FF0B4043C70BBD
3 Faults Found:
004248 - Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336)
P1098 - 001 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139300 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:21:35
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 5295 /min
Load: 12.9 %
Speed: 106.0 km/h
Temperature: 55.0°C
Temperature: 19.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.097 V
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139304 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:27:55
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 829 /min
Load: 1.2 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 80.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.097 V
012599 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
P3137 - 001 - Basic Setting not Completed - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139305 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 67.0°C
Temperature: 46.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.700 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
Cleared them and hope they don't come back :fighting:
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Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336)
Thats relating to that flaps in the intake manifold not the Throttle body.
Just re-read the thread.... you realise this! :signLOL:
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Yeah the others went away, changed the fuel filter over, went for a test drive!
that's the latest codes :signLOL: what needs adjusted or replaced now :scared:
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This is the same with mine. I had the throttle body replaced and just today I ordered a new intake manifold so I will see if it works and gets rid of all faults when it comes. My fault codes are in German but the guy seem to think faulty wire like last time when the throttle body went. But just waiting on the part to see if it fixes the problems.
:popcornsoda:
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Alex - what's the chance of getting these bigger throttle bodies in? There much difference in price? Seems waste of money to replace like for like if bigger is available?
Simon
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Mine has just gone!!!! :fighting:
Waiting for a new one to arrive this afternoon, otherwise the car is going to miss out on inters :sad1:
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Such a bizzare issue this.... should definitely be a recall on these. Alex... what would we be able to do? Could we make a case?
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I really think the issues should be raised but bet Vw won't want to know due to them being modified (in most cases)
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I really think the issues should be raised but bet Vw won't want to know due to them being modified (in most cases)
True... but plenty of coilpack recalls happened on modified cars.
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Surely the TB be cleaned with carb cleaner?
I found a guide for an R32, but not sure if it's in the same location on the tfsi?
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Surely the TB be cleaned with carb cleaner?
I found a guide for an R32, but not sure if it's in the same location on the tfsi?
Its the internal sensor that sh*ts itself.
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New throttle body arrived today (thanks Alex), so I got to work fitting it tonight.
Once fitted, I cleared the fault code and did a throttle body alignment then took it for a quick spin. Full throttle/power is back now and no more EMS light, so I'm a happy bunny! :smiley:
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New throttle body arrived today (thanks Alex), so I got to work fitting it tonight.
Once fitted, I cleared the fault code and did a throttle body alignment then took it for a quick spin. Full throttle/power is back now and no more EMS light, so I'm a happy bunny! :smiley:
Sweeeeeeeeet :happy2:
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now on to revision Q :signLOL: my flapper motor was the next thing to go :sad1:
Throttle body failure can cause the flapper motor to die too. Sometimes brings up the flapper fault, but leaving the car for a few days tends to clear the fault for good.
:signLOL:
It was an old part anyway, rev c ... the new part rev E must be faster with more bhp :wink:
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 115 J HW: 1K0 907 115 F
Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
Software Coding: 0403000318070060
Work Shop Code: WSC 00191 264 15243
VCID: 2D555FF0B4043C70BBD
3 Faults Found:
004248 - Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Position Sensor (G336)
P1098 - 001 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139300 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:21:35
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 5295 /min
Load: 12.9 %
Speed: 106.0 km/h
Temperature: 55.0°C
Temperature: 19.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.097 V
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139304 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 22:27:55
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 829 /min
Load: 1.2 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 80.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.097 V
012599 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
P3137 - 001 - Basic Setting not Completed - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 139305 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 67.0°C
Temperature: 46.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.700 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
Cleared them and hope they don't come back :fighting:
Any Idea, what's up here?
thanks
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Replacement arrived this afternoon, fitted and just arrived at hotel ready for inters
Massive thank you to Alex for telephone support today - much appreciated mate. I'll buy you a drink tomorrow to say thanks :happy2:
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Can anyone shed any light on why so many of these are failing yet? Seems strange that so many of these are failing so dramaticaly a lately :scared:
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Mine went 2 weeks ago, only 19k miles on a Golf R.
New retail on the part is around £350 alone.
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So here we go guys. It's not looking good at all. I have had my manifold replaced with new motor and that isn't the fault. The guy has cleared all faults apart from one which says about a wire. It's in German but It's a low signal to the manifold motor. He is still looking at it.
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So here we go guys. It's not looking good at all. I have had my manifold replaced with new motor and that isn't the fault. The guy has cleared all faults apart from one which says about a wire. It's in German but It's a low signal to the manifold motor. He is still looking at it.
Did they change the wiring under the inlet manifold that goes to the injectors Ben?
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I don't believe so. Why? Could this be the root cause?
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VW has at some point recommended to change the wiring to the TB
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I don't believe so. Why? Could this be the root cause?
Manifold comes with the wiring. Get that changed over.
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So the wiring to the manifold needs to be new? As I have to try describe it in German
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So I just called the garage and he said the wiring is brand new and he is thinking of taking it to a specialist to have a look at the electrical parts.
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So I just called the garage and he said the wiring is brand new and he is thinking of taking it to a specialist to have a look at the electrical parts.
So he put the new wiring on it?
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I believe so I ask him a couple of times so I hope so.
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Good morning! :party:
So I just spoke to Robert at H+G Tuning in Paderborn. And its been for an all night session at the electronic specialist.
Everything is now perfect apart from one minor fault and its the ECU :/ but my car is going in there properly on Monday. He said he should be able to repair the ECU so I am hoping next week I get the all okay and collect my car.
Hope this helps with anyone else's problem. :happy2:
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Did he tell you what's wrong with your ecu?
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No he didn't specify but he said it is fixable
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I can't believe how many of these are going bang a lately, mine went at inters ont strip,
Received my new one today from loba so ill be fitting it tomorrow and hoping all goes well!
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Mines in german but here goes.
Fehlercode: P0642
Sensor referenzspannung A
Signal zu niedrig
error code: P0642
Sensor reference voltage
Signal too low
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So is there any uprated/larger ones or is it just replace with oem?
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So is there any uprated/larger ones or is it just replace with oem?
Alex does an enlarged 70mm TB :happy2:
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£££?
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Let bring this thread back up.
Afternoon I am so happy :grin:
My car runs again, finally. Its so fast and smooth its better than before.
The problem was my ECU with the voltage, it manage to mess up the throttle body sensors and the manifold inlet. But I never actually never needed a new manifold as my old one still works they both were tried and tested.
So it was supposed to be a little job to repair the ECU it took around a week and a lot of road tests. I still have manage to keep my map the downside it cost me 588euro without tax 19% just for the repair of the ECU. but I have a warranty so hopefully they will be no more mishaps.
I will keep you posted as last time it took around 1,000miles for a new error to occur.
thanks
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Glad to hear it's sorted, however why wouldn't you get another ECU from eBay and get it coded to the car? Did this a few times on my older SAAB's, perhaps it's more complex on the GTI.
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ECU's are expensive arent they. Plus I dont pay tax in Germany. And then I would have to also had to buy a new map which arent cheap ;/
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Not sure about the GTI, but used to get the T5/T7 ECU's for about £50 and put my own maps on via T5/T7 suite. Guess you could explain the situation to the tuner, most would be accomodating I'm sure.... Annnyway, it's all sorted and your back on the road. :happy2: :driver:
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ECU's are expensive arent they. Plus I dont pay tax in Germany. And then I would have to also had to buy a new map which arent cheap ;/
http://bit.ly/169yeCd (http://bit.ly/169yeCd) they're cheaper than whatever H&G have been doing lol
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I have to apologise to the nice chap that bought my car... He picked it up Saturday, all running fine, text me after his 4hour drive home saying that i'd set the car fantastically and it's one of the best cars he'd driven...
Got a text Friday night to say the car had been in garage from Wednesday as the throttle body died, won't rev over 2700rpm.. :( Such a shame... he still loves the car so thats all good, just one of those unfortunate things i suppose...
So, when will yours fail... As a good man said to me, it's the TB lottery :signLOL:
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I'm getting the error which cupra_buzz is seeing and a brand new ECU hasn't resolved the problem.
001602 - Sensor Reference Voltage A: Circuit
P0642 - 002 - Low - Intermittent - MIL ON
Problems started from the (now) common throttle body failure, this was replaced then for this code and the RFM failure code so had the RFM replaced but this hasn't resolved the problem.
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I'm getting the error which cupra_buzz is seeing and a brand new ECU hasn't resolved the problem.
001602 - Sensor Reference Voltage A: Circuit
P0642 - 002 - Low - Intermittent - MIL ON
Problems started from the (now) common throttle body failure, this was replaced then for this code and the RFM failure code so had the RFM replaced but this hasn't resolved the problem.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17026/P0642/001602
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What plugs and coils packs are you running?
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You think it could be plugs/coilpack related - they are stock coils and some slightly better plugs, cant remember which at the mo.
Always with these codes :
008196 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
P2004 - 001 - Stuck Open - Intermittent
08212 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)
P2014 - 001 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
sometimes this too...
00262 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96)
P0106 - 004 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent - MIL O
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Neil try doing the output test for the manifold motor.
open vcds>engine>output test 03
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ross-tech.com%2Fvcds%2Ftour%2Fscreenshots%2Foutput-tests-sot1.png&hash=a84bda45bfcfc14885730a0deba4354f23397ca5)
then select Intake manifold flap from the drop down list
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ross-tech.com%2Fvcds%2Ftour%2Fscreenshots%2Foutput-tests-sot2.png&hash=d2cf02b5a8756ce93ed8c871b533671eca9e9780)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ross-tech.com%2Fvcds%2Ftour%2Fscreenshots%2Foutput-tests-sot3.png&hash=82fb1a6b9d23097cbe445cd75d018fddbed9c07a)
While the test is running the actuator arm should move to fully open and close the flaps
Additionally if you took your car to Stattlers then could it be Nology silver plugs you have in?
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Nology that's the fella's
Don't have the car at the moment but I did try a RF adaption which just errors when at fault.
The dealer had found that when run the flap is being opening incorrectly due to the ECU error being logged but the flap is working correctly.
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Nology that's the fella's
Don't have the car at the moment but I did try a RF adaption which just errors when at fault.
The dealer had found that when run the flap is being opening incorrectly due to the ECU error being logged but the flap is working correctly.
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Swap back to some stock plugs and see if the fault still appears.