MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: RedRobin on August 17, 2009, 12:03:40 pm
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There's no doubt that if you are looking for a lightweight performance rim for trackdays and at very good value for money, then Team Dynamics are the best. However, although they particular look well in black on white cars such as WhiteGTI's and MatED30's, personally I don't think they look so good on other colours. BUT, we each have individual tastes and the TD's are primarily functional.
Anyone who knows me or my car can see that I like being under a spot light and as a professional designer (now retired) I'm hardwired into eye-candy. So, thanks to 'candy turbo' Ian who suggested this rim (and mistakenly thinks I have money to burn!). While I'm also at it, thanks to Chris for PMing me to rave about how much he loved his new lighter weight TD's (barsterd!!). Also to Hurdy for loads of tech info and tony_d for sensible reasoning and SteveP and others for encouragement - You're all barsterds for spending my money!
I make no apology for also wanting some style as well as function and so I will one day be going for OZ Alleggerita 18's in Titanium colour. Here are what the 17's look like on a red GTI < CORRECTION: I have since learnt that, although very similar, these are not OZ Alleggerita's - Do not blindly trust Google!
I will of course write a review in due course.
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This is an OZ Alleggerita : -
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i love em robin and wanting a set for 'blue' i can understand your reasons :happy2:
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Hmmm. Something not right in 17" (sorry). ..pretty sure the 18's will look far better. (Not that I am much of a judge, I went out to buy a suit once and my wife said I looked like John Major!)..
Can someone photoshop something for you?
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Hmmm. Something not right in 17" (sorry). ..pretty sure the 18's will look far better. (Not that I am much of a judge, I went out to buy a suit once and my wife said I looked like John Major!)..
Can someone photoshop something for you?
and so I will one day be going for OZ Alleggerita 18's in Titanium colour
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The pics of the red GTI are 17's only because I haven't found any pics of 18's on Tornado Red yet.
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These might be 18's - The pic certainly shows well how the darkness of the Titanium colour doesn't merge into the tyre - Something I personally don't like on most all black rims.
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they will look great red :) look forward to seeing them on the car ;)
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The 17 inchers were obviously fine for doing doughnuts in front of the garages though :grin:
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they will look great red :) look forward to seeing them on the car ;)
....I don't know when yet though! They would be great for The Ring trip but I've got some other expenses currently.
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The 17 inchers were obviously fine for doing doughnuts in front of the garages though :grin:
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The guy does trackdays though and 17's are reckoned by many to be the better option for that.
The OZ 18's will still be fractionally lighter than the TD's.
I'm going for a combination of function with style - Always what I try to achieve.
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Lovely choice. :drool:
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very cool . performance and looks
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robin , i know you would come round , you are a man with taste :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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Nice choice Red and will finish your car off very nicely.. :happy2: If I was spending that money on rims then I would have probably gone down the same route. But I couldn't justify it over the bargain that the TD's were. Those again would have looked :drool: on yours in matt or gloss. They go very well with Tornado red, just look at Luca's..
Either way, you will certainly feel a difference in the general behavior/handling and performance of the car and knowing how much you like a good balance it will suit your requirements to a tee i'm sure.. :wink:
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Good choice, RR! :congrats:
As for me, I bought black OZ Alleggerita 8x18.
Waiting for them to arrive.
All colors except titanium are made on order, in small quantities. That is because OZ was on the verge of bankruptcy a few years back, because they were producing too much stock. Now they produce only one color in bulk, and the rest of colors in very very small numbers, basically to order.
Our OZ representative here in Switzerland has quite a stock of Alleggerita in titanium, but no other colors. They tried to sell me titanium ones (these are cheaper), but I looked at them and black rims would look better on a white car, in my opinion.
Alleggerita is made in Italy, and the workers are now on vacation, so I have to wait some more time before my wheels are made and arrive to me.
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candy turbo, I've clicked you a Thank You - I might have missed the OZ Alleggy's without your suggestion :drinking:.
Ben, agreed absolutely that TD's are THE best choice budget wise and also I really do think they particular suit the white 3-door GTI's - Kinda 'track funky'. The OZ will suit my 5-door and its cosmetic mods better.
Pesky, good info :happy2:. I didn't know about the Titaniums being cheaper etc. I think that they'll compliment my carbonfibre bits better than black.
The Italians always have such style don't they! :notworthy:
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great and considered choice RR :happy2:
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I thought i would give a bit of balance(negativty... :signLOL:) to this thread and to be honest redrobin i'm not really feeling the oz alleggerita's at all.....
i know my previous wheels were pretty terrible so i'm speaking from experience but wheels with a dish even though the OZ are small will even in 18" make them look a lot smaller than your monza.. they will look just like 17" in the picture you have....
to be honest i don't know the price you paid for them and the weight difference but the superturimo gt wheels where the spokes go right to the edge of the wheels in the race silver color i think would look a lot better and bigger
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/superturismo-gt/en#
Sorry to be negative but read TD thread and this OZ thread an have to be honest and say there is something about TR mk5 golf gti or ED30 and black wheels that just does'nt work and i'm im talking from experience there... :happy2:
i could do a photoshop of the OZ wheels and the superturismo gt wheels if you wanted me too....
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/ultraleggera/en
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We need a wizz kid to do a photoshop onto Robins car to see whether these will suit. I agree about Black alloys on Red dont go imo.
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Here you go Robin..not the best photoshop done in a rush... :happy2:
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/ultraleggera/en
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Yeah Deako those look much better because spokes go right to edge of rim.. which is what a was i was tyring to say... :drinking:
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The SuperTs have too many spokes for me. But the Ultras have just enough, and are only a smidgen heavier than Allegeritas.
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Super Ts are quite heavy by comparison too.
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I thought i would give a bit of balance(negativty... :signLOL:) to this thread and to be honest redrobin i'm not really feeling the oz alleggerita's at all.....
....I welcome the 'bit of balance' and other people's suggestions.
i know my previous wheels were pretty terrible so i'm speaking from experience but wheels with a dish even though the OZ are small will even in 18" make them look a lot smaller than your monza.. they will look just like 17" in the picture you have....
to be honest i don't know the price you paid for them and the weight difference but the superturimo gt wheels where the spokes go right to the edge of the wheels in the race silver color i think would look a lot better and bigger
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/superturismo-gt/en#
....I'm not bothered if my wheels would look smaller with LeggyRita 18's. My Monza 18's being now powdercoated apparently already look smaller (according to some!). The improved driveability which Chris (WhiteGTI) so well describes is what I'm after as it's so complimentary with my VWR-KW-V3 suspension and Quaife diff.
Sorry to be negative but read TD thread and this OZ thread an have to be honest and say there is something about TR mk5 golf gti or ED30 and black wheels that just does'nt work and i'm im talking from experience there... :happy2:
i could do a photoshop of the OZ wheels and the superturismo gt wheels if you wanted me too....
....Not negative, mate. I personally don't like all black wheels which visually merge with the black tyres, although I do think they work on the Candy White cars.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/ultraleggera/en
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ozracing.com%2Fwebimgoz6%2F2007%2FOZ%2520ruote%2520catalogo%2520WEB%2F00_Racing%2FUltraleggera%2FWEB_ULTRALEGGERA-CT_3.jpg.jpg&hash=96278ea2ef0501c586a90f52d4e16d2e8c35c3ca)
....I'm afraid that I don't like any wheels which have a paired spoke arrangement.
But I thank you for the suggestion. :happy2:
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Here you go Robin..not the best photoshop done in a rush... :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo81%2Fscarpicus%2Fredozgt2-1.jpg&hash=426dd06715dbfa016fe4565b996cf18b4f193dca)
....Thanks, mate! :drinking:
However, it confirms what I already imagined and looks far too like a R32 wheel.
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Super Ts are quite heavy by comparison too.
I'm seeking Function first and Style second, and, for me, the Alleggerita's deliver both. When/If I sell my powdercoated Monza 18's I'll miss them because I prefer their style to anything else.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
http://www.ozracing.com/at-team/wheels/racing/ultraleggera/en
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Me too. One reason being mentioned above with the spokes running to the edge of the rim so it doesnt look smaller.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
Me too. One reason being mentioned above with the spokes running to the edge of the rim so it doesnt look smaller.
....The Ultra's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Leggy's though both weigh significantly less the Monza's.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
Me too. One reason being mentioned above with the spokes running to the edge of the rim so it doesnt look smaller.
much less than my ch's??
....The Ultra's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Leggy's though both weigh significantly less the Monza's.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
Me too. One reason being mentioned above with the spokes running to the edge of the rim so it doesnt look smaller.
....The Ultra's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Leggy's though both weigh significantly less the Monza's.
much less than my ch's??
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Is what I think you are trying to ask. Where the [ /quote ] appears can bugger the whole thing! Easy to get wrong sometimes but write your reply after the last one you see.
HTH :happy2:
I dunno what CH's weigh? There are several options probably but I don't think they classify as a lightweight 'Race' wheel.
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I'm a huge fan of the Ultraleggera personally.
Me too. One reason being mentioned above with the spokes running to the edge of the rim so it doesnt look smaller.
....The Ultra's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Leggy's though both weigh significantly less the Monza's.
much less than my ch's??
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Is what I think you are trying to ask. Where the [ /quote ] appears can bugger the whole thing! Easy to get wrong sometimes but write your reply after the last one you see.
HTH :happy2:
I dunno what CH's weigh? There are several options probably but I don't think they classify as a lightweight 'Race' wheel.
Ooops, didnt see that.
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Am finding it tricky sourcing the OZ LeggyRita's - OZ UK are on permanent answerphone for 3 days and don't return calls and local OZ dealer doesn't seem to be capable of checking what I need (stuff like ET#) - The bloke seems indifferent.
Balance Motorsport? - Julian is always helpful. Anyone else for OZ that you know about, please? I want them ASAP and new not previously used!
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Am finding it tricky sourcing the OZ LeggyRita's - OZ UK are on permanent answerphone for 3 days and don't return calls and local OZ dealer doesn't seem to be capable of checking what I need (stuff like ET#) - The bloke seems indifferent.
Balance Motorsport? - Julian is always helpful. Anyone else for OZ that you know about, please? I want them ASAP and new not previously used!
I have a feeling that there isn't an actual OZ UK as such.. Try speaking to Glenn at Revolution 24/7 and mention that I put you there way and they should be able to sort you out mate
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You may have to wait a bit for them as the whole of Italy seems to close for a month's holiday in August. :fighting:
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Robin,
Have you tried Top Gear? They have a depot around the corner from you................
http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/4x_18_Inch_OZ_Alleggerita_Titanium_Alloy_Wheels_With_225_40_18_tyres.php (http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/4x_18_Inch_OZ_Alleggerita_Titanium_Alloy_Wheels_With_225_40_18_tyres.php)
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I have a feeling that there isn't an actual OZ UK as such.. Try speaking to Glenn at Revolution 24/7 and mention that I put you there way and they should be able to sort you out mate
....I can't find the OZ UK web site right now but the phone is 0845 437 9905. I arrived at it via the OZ dot com main site > Locator.
Cheers, Jonny, I'll def try Glenn and mention your name :drinking:
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Robin,
Have you tried Top Gear? They have a depot around the corner from you................
http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/4x_18_Inch_OZ_Alleggerita_Titanium_Alloy_Wheels_With_225_40_18_tyres.php (http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/4x_18_Inch_OZ_Alleggerita_Titanium_Alloy_Wheels_With_225_40_18_tyres.php)
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....Yes, they don't have a good reputation locally. But thanks :happy2:
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To fit my F1 Assym tyres 225/40R18, am I looking for 18x7.5 or 18x8 ?
And if the Monza 18's fit my AP brakes at ET51, then I guess that Leggy's at ET48 will be fine.
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
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I had some OZ's on my previous car from Motorsport Wheels UK. I dealt with the Gloucester branch (01452 376 540) but they do have several others around the country. The reason I mention them is that I had a problem with the bolts supplied with the wheels which wasn't actually their fault (I couldn't fit my wheel brace onto the nuts supplied in the holes in the wheels) and they sent me a set of internal drive nuts and an internal drive nut key next day delivery and all FOC. They were also very knowledgeable on the phone in terms of providing details of ET, weight etc prior to my order and were also well priced.
For me their post purchase survice (often rubbish with many companies) means that they would get my business again. Their website is crap though!
Deacon
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this isnt't helping my OZ Allegeritas itch either, when you stopping by oxford next robin :party: :party: :party:
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
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this isnt't helping my OZ Allegeritas itch either, when you stopping by oxford next robin :party: :party: :party:
....Er, probably on my way to VWR - Phil has told me my louder zorst section is booked for manufacture on 28th August, so the week beginning 31st. But I may have another VWR visit during September before The Ring and would hope to be wearing the LeggyRita's as I pass Oxford and keep on driving without stopping! :evilgrin: :wink:
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
It would mean you'd be 3mm further out than originally with the MonzaII's. :happy2:
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
Robin, 8", ET48 will be fine.
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
It would mean you'd be 3mm further out than originally with the MonzaII's. :happy2:
....Ah, 9 - 6 = 3. It's what you were explaining to me on the phone recently but I'm not so hot at remembering stuff like that.
I would have thought that my arches would be fine for the extra 3mm without altering my sweet suspension setup.
But is 18x7.5 or 18.8 best for my existing tyres and clearances?
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
Robin, 8", ET48 will be fine.
....Cheers, Chris and thanks for being patient guys - You can see why I daren't work on my car myself!
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I had some OZ's on my previous car from Motorsport Wheels UK. I dealt with the Gloucester branch (01452 376 540) but they do have several others around the country. The reason I mention them is that I had a problem with the bolts supplied with the wheels which wasn't actually their fault (I couldn't fit my wheel brace onto the nuts supplied in the holes in the wheels) and they sent me a set of internal drive nuts and an internal drive nut key next day delivery and all FOC. They were also very knowledgeable on the phone in terms of providing details of ET, weight etc prior to my order and were also well priced.
For me their post purchase survice (often rubbish with many companies) means that they would get my business again. Their website is crap though!
Deacon
....Thanks, Deacon :drinking: - Another source for me to check out :happy2: Quality info in your post :smiley:
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its ok RR
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9mm isn't much either Robin, maybe worth asking the lads at VWR that set your car up if they think it will clear
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You may have to wait a bit for them as the whole of Italy seems to close for a month's holiday in August. :fighting:
....Ah yes! I've been in Italy while that has been going on (many moons ago). Everyone hit the beach and I had a little holiday romance - Got seduced! :jumpmove: No complaints from me at the time.
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lighter wheels+wider wheels+wider tyres=more grip better cornering :jumpmove:
will you go for wider tyres when you change them, you shoud be abl to get 235 tyres on there, mabe even more. every little helps
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9mm isn't much either Robin, maybe worth asking the lads at VWR that set your car up if they think it will clear
....Mark (Farmer) is my man (now ex VWR) and I'm seeing him soon anyway with the BIALI Boyz. I spoke to Matt Walker at VWR today and although he didn't know for certain he felt confident.
I'm probably being a bit over cautious but after I've parted with a 4-figure sum to someone I don't know personally I don't want any hassles if I have a fit problem. The VWR track cars tend to use TD's.
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
It would mean you'd be 3mm further out than originally with the MonzaII's. :happy2:
....Ah, 9 - 6 = 3. It's what you were explaining to me on the phone recently but I'm not so hot at remembering stuff like that.
I would have thought that my arches would be fine for the extra 3mm without altering my sweet suspension setup.
But is 18x7.5 or 18.8 best for my existing tyres and clearances?
Top Cat is very good with wheels and whether they will fit given the measurements etc. May be worth sending him a quick PM..
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Chris agree TC is the master
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8" wide and ET48 would be about 9mm further out Robin :happy2:
....9mm sounds a lot. I'm already fairly close but without arch rubbing.
Would my 225/40R18 tyres fit on 18x7.5 better for this 9mm factor? :smiley:
It would mean you'd be 3mm further out than originally with the MonzaII's. :happy2:
....Ah, 9 - 6 = 3. It's what you were explaining to me on the phone recently but I'm not so hot at remembering stuff like that.
I would have thought that my arches would be fine for the extra 3mm without altering my sweet suspension setup.
But is 18x7.5 or 18.8 best for my existing tyres and clearances?
Top Cat is very good with wheels and whether they will fit given the measurements etc. May be worth sending him a quick PM..
I taught him everything he knows :grin: :grin: :grin:
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lighter wheels+wider wheels+wider tyres=more grip better cornering :jumpmove:
will you go for wider tyres when you change them, you shoud be abl to get 235 tyres on there, mabe even more. every little helps
....Ah yes. But the other side of that coin is how tight it all is with my dampers etc, not so clever in the wet? (perhaps I'm wrong on that one), and extra tyre costs (if significant).
I just bought some 225/40R18 F1 Assymetrics! I might go for 235's next time if they fit.
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robin the roc is 18x8 and runs 235s :happy2:
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yes but the stance is 4x4 like :smiley:
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lighter wheels+wider wheels+wider tyres=more grip better cornering :jumpmove:
will you go for wider tyres when you change them, you shoud be abl to get 235 tyres on there, mabe even more. every little helps
....Ah yes. But the other side of that coin is how tight it all is with my dampers etc, not so clever in the wet? (perhaps I'm wrong on that one), and extra tyre costs (if significant).
I just bought some 225/40R18 F1 Assymetrics! I might go for 235's next time if they fit.
if your wheels are 8" wide instead of std 7.5" id have thought you should be ok. plus the offset off the wheel should account for the extra width anyway.
That might be wrong though, :confused:
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I taught him everything he knows :grin: :grin: :grin:
Tiz very true Mr Butler will see you right. :happy2:
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My 225s on the 8J are absolutely fine, and look completely normal and not stretched.
I know that everyone running the TD's (which are also 8J) on this forum are running the 225 tyre with no problems. :smiley: :smiley:
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I taught him everything he knows :grin: :grin: :grin:
Tiz very true Mr Butler will see you right. :happy2:
....Thanks, TC! :drinking: I won't bother you with a PM then.
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out of interest TC what is the widest tyre you can put onto a 7.5, presumably 235 is the maximum
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out of interest TC what is the widest tyre you can put onto a 7.5, presumably 235 is the maximum
Jonny C is the man for this info he really knows his onions about contact patches and tyre wall stuff. I think it would depend on what you planned to do in the car and the type of tyre. There must become a point were the extra grip from more contact gets negated by what yout doing to the tyre wall. :smiley:
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I think a 235 has a bigger rolling radius, so you may encounter a bit of an issue there, with you being so low, Robin.
An ET48 on an 8" rim, will mean it stick out 9mm further than your Monzas. 3mm for the change in offset and 6mm for the 1/4 of an inch added to either side of the barrel.
However, a 225 will only be affected by slightly changing the position of the tyrewall closest to the rim, as it gets towards the tread, it'll still be a 225's width, remember. So in reality you're still only 3mm further out, increasing to 9mm the further you compress the suspension. Make sense?
This size, offset & tyre combo is perfect IMO.
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^^^^^^I agree^^^^^^
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i dont understand how a 235 wide tyre can have a bigger rolling radius than a 225 wide tyre, when the aspect ratio is stil going to be 40. the aspect ratio surely is the only bit that can change the rolling radius of a tyre.
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I think a 235 has a bigger rolling radius, so you may encounter a bit of an issue there, with you being so low, Robin.
....The set up Mark Farmer did me at VWR works perfectly - I follow the If it works, don't mend it! school of thought. So I'll take your advice and stick to 225.
An ET48 on an 8" rim, will mean it stick out 9mm further than your Monzas. 3mm for the change in offset and 6mm for the 1/4 of an inch added to either side of the barrel.
....Makes sense.
However, a 225 will only be affected by slightly changing the position of the tyrewall closest to the rim, as it gets towards the tread, it'll still be a 225's width, remember. So in reality you're still only 3mm further out, increasing to 9mm the further you compress the suspension. Make sense?
....Sort of makes sense (just about to my brain) but I greatly respect your advice on many car related subjects.
This size, offset & tyre combo is perfect IMO.
.... :drinking:
^^^^^^I agree^^^^^^
....Your opinion on wheels etc is also one I take notice of. :drinking: (as highly recommended by TC)
So, I'm looking for a 18x8 | ET48 | 225/40R18 combo so I can leave my suspension in its sweet spot.
Cheers, guys :drinking: - This forum is soooo good!
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out of interest TC what is the widest tyre you can put onto a 7.5, presumably 235 is the maximum
Jonny C is the man for this info he really knows his onions about contact patches and tyre wall stuff. I think it would depend on what you planned to do in the car and the type of tyre. There must become a point were the extra grip from more contact gets negated by what yout doing to the tyre wall. :smiley:
....That's the bottom line :happy2:. Achieving the right combo and balance.
In my case it's 'Fast Road' and only occasional 'track'.
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i dont understand how a 235 wide tyre can have a bigger rolling radius than a 225 wide tyre, when the aspect ratio is stil going to be 40. the aspect ratio surely is the only bit that can change the rolling radius of a tyre.
The aspect ratio is a percentage of the width of the tyre.
Therefore a 225/40 tyre means the sidewall is 40% of the width of the tyre = 90mm
A 235/40 tyre will have a marginally higher rolling radius with the sidewall being 40% of 235 = 94mm.
Its only slight, but does make a difference.
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gotcha, now i understand. would never have known that before :stupid:
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yes, people think the profile number is a measurement as in 40 profile is 40mm, but as Deako says its a percentage of the tyre width, which is in mm's, called the aspect ratio :happy2:
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that is exactly what i had thought, always learning, lol
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Ah, so the 'R' in 225/40R18 stands for Rolling Radius %?
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Ah, so the 'R' in 225/40R18 stands for Rolling Radius %?
No, it simply means Radial.
The other numbers after are for the load index and the speed rating. eg. 92 and Y
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The Italians finish their hols and go back to work on Monday (24th), so looks like I may have them by mid September in time for The Ring trip - Not that I'll go round any faster.
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Just had a set OZ Ultraleggeras fitted in matt black and for some reason i really feel like the cars handling is different?
Dont mean to disturb your thread robin but just thought as every one is already speaking about alloys etc it would be a good time lol.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fl304%2Fclio_gib%2Fce60271c.jpg&hash=53b730250a00ca48ffebd8c691ee8b1854b8b299)
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They look great, Manu. Nice touch with the red decals too, that'll pick up nicely on the car.
The difference in unsprung weight and the effects of a lighter wheel are really positive - got any pics with them on?
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Fantastic Manu. I want them!!!! :happy2:
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liking those manu! :pomppomp:
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Just had a set OZ Ultraleggeras fitted in matt black and for some reason i really feel like the cars handling is different?
Dont mean to disturb your thread robin but just thought as every one is already speaking about alloys etc it would be a good time lol.
....No problem, Manu - We're discussing OZ alloys afterall :happy2:
Those Ultra's look very good in matt black, and I'm someone who doesn't normally like paired-spoke wheels.
You WILL feel like the car's handling is different! - It IS different inasmuch that you are feeling more feedback via the lighter weight wheels and are more in touch with your ride - A good thing methinks and the reason I am getting my LeggyRita's - NOT just for cosmetic reasons (you know what I'm like!).
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They look great, Manu. Nice touch with the red decals too, that'll pick up nicely on the car.
....[Thinks: Where can I have those red decals on my OZ Alleggerita's? :drool:]
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Just had a set OZ Ultraleggeras fitted in matt black and for some reason i really feel like the cars handling is different?
Dont mean to disturb your thread robin but just thought as every one is already speaking about alloys etc it would be a good time lol.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fl304%2Fclio_gib%2Fce60271c.jpg&hash=53b730250a00ca48ffebd8c691ee8b1854b8b299)
:happy2:
:love: :love: Seeing them makes me want to cancel my TD order and go OZ instead. :evilgrin:
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:love: :love: Seeing them makes me want to cancel my TD order and go OZ instead. :evilgrin:
....Just a small matter of the difference in cost! :evilgrin:. TD's are extremely good value for money, but if they aren't the look you want, then it doesn't matter how cheap they are by comparison.
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I'm usually more concerned with performance than looks, which is why i'm sticking with 17's. The ultras are lighter tho so will benifit performance even more. :driver:
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i might have missed it but how much are we looking at paying for a set of these OZ's?
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About a grand for 17 ultra's and about half that for Team dynamics.
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About a grand for 17 ultra's and about half that for Team dynamics.
....And anything between £1,200 and £1,550 for 18x8 Alleggerita's incl vat and shipping and excl tyres.
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I'm usually more concerned with performance than looks, which is why i'm sticking with 17's. The ultras are lighter tho so will benifit performance even more. :driver:
....And the Alleggerita's are even lighter still, but by only a relatively small amount. Besides which, there's a point at which strength can be compromised.
I don't honestly think that I'm going to lap The Ring significantly faster on Alleggerita's but the drive feel will help and enhance the experience.
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^^ on 17's the TD's are 8.2 kg the OZ ultra's are 7.4kg and the Alleggerita's just under 7kg. Weight loss is like power gains the first kg's are relatively cheap there after the price per kg saved goes up quite significantly.
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Just to complete the info (which I'll repeat when I do my review) : -
On 8x18's, the TD's are 8.98 kg, the OZ Ultra's are 8.00 kg, and the Alleggerita's are TBC but closer to 7.4 kg.
For comparison, the genuine BBS Monza 18's are about 12 kg.
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The Italians finish their hols and go back to work on Monday (24th), so looks like I may have them by mid September
what?! :surprised: Where do you have this info from? That means I have to wait till mid-September at least, as well... :sick:
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Info from OZ in the UK.
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Dont know how available the Alleggritas are to the Ultraleggeras but i ordered them on tuesday, were delivered on wednesday and fitted on thursday! Overall very happy with the alloys just the car needs abit of lowering.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fl304%2Fclio_gib%2Febb35bbb.jpg&hash=730ae156a33cbbb64aa4ca8f0302e9969cfde61d)
Car has put such a smile on my face, dont think pics do it justice though!!
:happy2:
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Dont know how available the Alleggritas are to the Ultraleggeras but i ordered them on tuesday, were delivered on wednesday and fitted on thursday!
....The Alleggerita's are OZ's latest offering and it seems that stocks are relatively low. I think the coloured versions are only made when ordered but I don't know this for certain - Just hearsay.
I should know early this coming week when I can realistically expect my LeggyRita's - I'm obviously hoping to have them in time for The Ring trip on 1st October.
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Dont know how available the Alleggritas are to the Ultraleggeras but i ordered them on tuesday, were delivered on wednesday and fitted on thursday! Overall very happy with the alloys just the car needs abit of lowering.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fl304%2Fclio_gib%2Febb35bbb.jpg&hash=730ae156a33cbbb64aa4ca8f0302e9969cfde61d)
Car has put such a smile on my face, dont think pics do it justice though!!
:happy2:
Those wheels look sh it hot dude. :happy2: You've made up my mind I'm cancelling my TD's and getting some ultraleggies. :jumpmove:
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Wheels are looking great Manu, now get it on its arse! :laugh: :wink:
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The wheels in the first post aren't Oz Alleggerita.
They are 17" TR MT1 from tire rack in the USA.
I should know, I have a set with Toyota proxes R888 on them for track days.
Made in Japan, nice and light compared to my stock pirelli wheels.
For the anal amongst us, the Spoke profile on the oz wheels is a bit more curved/complex toward the rim.
This adds a step which IMO makes the oz look a bit smaller.
I considered the oz as my daily wheel but as they were so similar to my track wheels I have opted for some Works out of Japan (should be comin out of the factory soon)
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The wheels in the first post aren't Oz Alleggerita.
They are 17" TR MT1 from tire rack in the USA.
I should know, I have a set with Toyota proxes R888 on them for track days.
Made in Japan, nice and light compared to my stock pirelli wheels.
For the anal amongst us, the Spoke profile on the oz wheels is a bit more curved/complex toward the rim.
This adds a step which IMO makes the oz look a bit smaller.
I considered the oz as my daily wheel but as they were so similar to my track wheels I have opted for some Works out of Japan (should be comin out of the factory soon)
What work wheels have you plumped for, we need pics. :party: :party: :party:
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What work wheels have you plumped for, we need pics. :party: :party: :party:
I've gone for a set of bronze emotion xt7 in 18x8.5 et45 to get them nice and flush... They will be mid taper so have some nice curve on the 7 spokes.
On the work site they're very 'japanese' looking (at home on Sti / Evo), but there's a pic that I'll dig out of a red gti that pushed me over the edge.
I'm posting on my phone right (2am in bed insomnia ;) ) now so will try to get the pic tomorrow at work.
My car is blue graphite, so should be an out of the ordinary combo that won't be to everyone taste :)
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The wheels in the first post aren't Oz Alleggerita.
They are 17" TR MT1 from tire rack in the USA.
I should know, I have a set with Toyota proxes R888 on them for track days.
Made in Japan, nice and light compared to my stock pirelli wheels.
For the anal amongst us, the Spoke profile on the oz wheels is a bit more curved/complex toward the rim.
This adds a step which IMO makes the oz look a bit smaller.
....Hang on, are you saying that the wheels on this car I posted aren't OZ Alleggerita's? : -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FOZ_17_rear.jpg&hash=5845ff5076cd50e107453a45a2f19152517a8241)
I'll double check to see if I made a mistake but these are! : -
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Yep, the pics on the red car are the TR MT1.
look closely at the curve on the spoke near the rim.
Tiny difference, but the oz spoke almost ends before the rim starts, but the TR spokes run up to the rim with a shallower curve.
Centre cap on the TR is flat, the Oz cap sits a bit more proud.
I believe the car posted is Meat's from golfmkv - if that is true then they are definitely not the oz.
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Here you go, TopCat : -
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So what do these weigh?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FGenerisLabo%2Fwheels%2F550x600-2007052100005.jpg&hash=062322347e752a3e288cca345cb9b1bd190af64c)
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Yep, the pics on the red car are the TR MT1.
look closely at the curve on the spoke near the rim.
Tiny difference, but the oz spoke almost ends before the rim starts, but the TR spokes run up to the rim with a shallower curve.
I believe the car posted is Meat's from golfmkv - if that is true then they are definitely not the oz.
....Cheers, tinto! Yes, it's Meatstick's car. It Google'd as Alleggerita's. The pics at that distance still give a good impression of what the OZ's will look like on a red GTI I think.
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No worries :)
weight on the works is between 18 and 22lbs, I haven't been able to track much official info down, but I'll put them on some scales when they arrive. I want to use my factory bolts not the blue horrors they offer, so have asked for ball seat etc.
found the pic:
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oh god... It's 2.45am... g'night chaps
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That looks :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:happy2:
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That looks :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:happy2:
X2! :pomppomp:
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cohibas car from awesome event yesterday , 18 inch just for you Robin :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEEcx75-I%2FAAAAAAAABkc%2FqBo7jFLSojs%2Fs800%2F23082009322.jpg&hash=c86a73487f3dde86b6efcf7cb3902d48adf64e83)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEByYkjUI%2FAAAAAAAABkY%2Fg2CAyrP8EQY%2Fs800%2F23082009321.jpg&hash=ead33b8919cb726a04a985c8f9676271b100e61c)
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That looks :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:happy2:
x 3 :love:
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I love deeply dished wheels (BMW M's for example) but those particular Work rims are not lightweight. Lighter than Monza's, but..
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cohibas car from awesome event yesterday , 18 inch just for you Robin :happy2:
....Hey! Thanks, johno! :drinking:
I still prefer the Alleggerita's though. I just don't go for paired spokes as a look. Quality rim though.
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I would also concur those works xt are :pomppomp:
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cohibas car from awesome event yesterday , 18 inch just for you Robin :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEEcx75-I%2FAAAAAAAABkc%2FqBo7jFLSojs%2Fs800%2F23082009322.jpg&hash=c86a73487f3dde86b6efcf7cb3902d48adf64e83)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEByYkjUI%2FAAAAAAAABkY%2Fg2CAyrP8EQY%2Fs800%2F23082009321.jpg&hash=ead33b8919cb726a04a985c8f9676271b100e61c)
What the hell is going on with the grill?? :surprised:
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Hey, Jonny! :happy2:
Thanks for giving me contact at Rev 247 - Keith has been very helpful and the best price on some OZ Allegerita's - I mentioned your name but haven't spoken to the guy you said.
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Hey, Jonny! :happy2:
Thanks for giving me contact at Rev 247 - Keith has been very helpful and the best price on some OZ Allegerita's - I mentioned your name but haven't spoken to the guy you said.
:drinking:
Kieth is a good guy, yeah thought that they would be able to help you out.. Im going to speak to him tomorrow actually as I may know someone who also wants a set.. :wink:
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WTF is going on with the grill?
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I love deeply dished wheels (BMW M's for example) but those particular Work rims are not lightweight. Lighter than Monza's, but..
You're dead right - they're not a lightweight compared to something like the Oz ALs or Ultras.
But for day to day i'll take a bit of form over function and reverse that notion at trackdays / events. :happy2:
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cohibas car from awesome event yesterday , 18 inch just for you Robin :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEEcx75-I%2FAAAAAAAABkc%2FqBo7jFLSojs%2Fs800%2F23082009322.jpg&hash=c86a73487f3dde86b6efcf7cb3902d48adf64e83)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSpHEByYkjUI%2FAAAAAAAABkY%2Fg2CAyrP8EQY%2Fs800%2F23082009321.jpg&hash=ead33b8919cb726a04a985c8f9676271b100e61c)
What the hell is going on with the grill?? :surprised:
WTF is going on with the grill?
I believe his bonnet catch got stuck, so he modded his grill to get in :smiley:
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I've gone for a set of bronze emotion xt7 in 18x8.5 et45 to get them nice and flush... They will be mid taper so have some nice curve on the 7 spokes.
The red Golf with them on looks amazing IMO
Are they available in 5x112 and correct hub size?
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I've gone for a set of bronze emotion xt7 in 18x8.5 et45 to get them nice and flush... They will be mid taper so have some nice curve on the 7 spokes.
The red Golf with them on looks amazing IMO
Are they available in 5x112 and correct hub size?
I assume the high taper is not available for the offset reqd for the mk5 , cos I lurv the full sweeping curve into the middle of the wheel...
I always reckoned Morr's were gonna be my wheels of choice but you may have just swayed me :surprised:
[RR : we can make this a seperate works xt thread to stop spoiling this OZ one if you wish :happy2:]
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I've gone for a set of bronze emotion xt7 in 18x8.5 et45 to get them nice and flush... They will be mid taper so have some nice curve on the 7 spokes.
The red Golf with them on looks amazing IMO
Are they available in 5x112 and correct hub size?
I assume the high taper is not available for the offset reqd for the mk5 , cos I lurv the full sweeping curve into the middle of the wheel...
I always reckoned Morr's were gonna be my wheels of choice but you may have just swayed me :surprised:
[RR : we can make this a seperate works xt thread to stop spoiling this OZ one if you wish :happy2:]
you're right - the high taper is for skylines etc.
They are a custom order so will have the correct centre bore, lugbolt pattern and bolt seat to suit the mkv, but in mid taper.
Sorry for the hijack RR.
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Don't worry about the threadjack, guys - It's simply the nature of discussion. I would only start a separate thread if you want to discuss something specific about the Work rims to attract more discussion, such as when the Work rims are on your car or for questions about them.
Meanwhile, OZ's Italian factory has been contacted and I am expecting delivery week 38 (mid-September) - In time for my Nordschleife trip.
:jumpmove: :pomppomp: :jumpmove: :pomppomp: :jumpmove:
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Original post has been edited and corrected.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FOZ-AlleggeritaTitanium-red.jpg&hash=1d213449675ad212d0448fbb4350a347ed41576d)
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OZ in Italy have today confirmed my LeggyRita's are finished and about to be shipped. Let's hope the feckin' UK Customs don't hold them up.
I'm standing by with some Zaino and my VW dealer is ready to fit me in whichever day I want so I make my Ring trip in time.
:party: :party: :party: :party:
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Good news then. Can't wait to see these in the flesh :happy2:
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I'm all excited now!
A mate of mine has some digital scales which are regularly calibrated because they are used in fishing competitions. We weighed one of my Monza 17's yesterday (without tyre) = 11.16 kg (~24.6 lbs).
The same scales are ready and waiting for the Leggy's and also my Monza 18's.
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I didn't think the 17" Monza's would be quite that heavy. 18" one's must weigh a good kilo more!
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I didn't think the 17" Monza's would be quite that heavy. 18" one's must weigh a good kilo more!
....I was surprised too but we weighed it several times (by suspension hook method as if a big wet fish). I'll report my Monza 18 weight etc when done, probably next week.
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I'm all excited now!
A mate of mine has some digital scales which are regularly calibrated because they are used in fishing competitions. We weighed one of my Monza 17's yesterday (without tyre) = 11.16 kg (~24.6 lbs).
The same scales are ready and waiting for the Leggy's and also my Monza 18's.
when you weigh your 18 monza could you please PM me the weight?
So, you look at at least 3kg saving per wheel
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when you weigh your 18 monza could you please PM me the weight?
So, you look at at least 3kg saving per wheel
....I'll try and remember to PM.
Possibly looking at nearer 4 kg saving than 3 kg - We'll see.
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Good stuff, they are a purposeful looking wheel.
They look very similar to what the aussie v8 supercars are running nowdays.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/v8data/2009/evnt_277/PHOTOS/PHITP_32749571.JPG
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Those wheels on the Aussie pic might even be made by OZ - They manufacture for motorsport including F1.
Supposed to improve brake cooling too - Not that I have that problem.
Yours look similar (sig pic) but I see they have 10 spokes and the Alleggerita's have 9.
:happy2:
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with al the money spent on saving money on the wheels, it might be worthwhile finding out different tyre weights(of similar spec and perfomance tyres). which is heaviest of the top tyre brands.
if your going down that route you may as well go the full hog.
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with al the money spent on saving money on the wheels, it might be worthwhile finding out different tyre weights(of similar spec and perfomance tyres). which is heaviest of the top tyre brands.
if your going down that route you may as well go the full hog.
....But then by the same full hog logic I ought to be doing a 'jonnyc' regarding reducing weight everywhere possible.
I doubt if there would be significant tyre weight differences to justify tyre performance differences. In other words, I wouldn't want to compromise tyre tread. Goodyear F1 Assymetrics are a great road tyre and good enough for a few occasional laps of the Nordschleife etc. I'll see how they fare on the Ring trip in a couple of weeks.
I bought these Alleggerita's for what a lighter weight wheel will do to the driving feedback and responses. The approximate weight differential of 8:12 (Alleggerita:Monza) is sufficient for my purposes.
If I don't like them I'll take a hit and sell them.
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awesome shot!
as you were... :signLOL:
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with al the money spent on saving money on the wheels, it might be worthwhile finding out different tyre weights(of similar spec and perfomance tyres). which is heaviest of the top tyre brands.
I agree that it is worth doing the research. I found out that while I had more grip, I hadn't made a huge leap in weight savings.
My 17" 'race' wheels are light, but the tyres (Toyo Proxes R888 225/45) bring the total weight up to near what the stock wheels are.
I believe (and could be very wrong) that this is because of the steel belts running around the sidewalls - makes them stiff but heavy.
If i'd gone for a lightweight 18" wheel, the R888 would have been lighter as they don't bother putting the belt around the sidewall.
So it would have been a lighter overall package, but (as you get what you pay for) there's also an exponential increase in the cost!
I'll be trying out some Hankooks for my next R spec tyre (through a work contact) so will find out more about them first.
I'm not enormously fussed though - my race wheels go on about 6 times/year and the grip benefit far outweighs keeping the standard weight.
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The OZ have landed! :jumpmove: :party: :jumpmove:
They won't be fitted until Tuesday but I'm sure I'll post some pics of them before fitting tyres etc.
On the first one out the box the label says 8.035 kg / 17.714 lb and the standard of finish and Titanium colour is almost beyond description! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: - Five Star Drool!
Christmas has come early!
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get some pics up asap robin :drool: :drool:
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how inconsiderate robin making us wait till tuesday :grouphug:
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sweet :happy2:
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how inconsiderate robin making us wait till tuesday :grouphug:
I do believe he's off to find some carbon fibre valve caps hence the delay... :laugh:
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how inconsiderate robin making us wait till tuesday :grouphug:
....Would I do such a cruel thing to you? :evilgrin:
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They look different degrees of darkness according to the lighting but I think the colour suits the Tornado Red - Something I wasn't sure about having never seen them in the flesh before.
The colour also suits the carbon on my car very well.
You'll have to excuse me for a bit now while I go off hunting for some carbonfibre valve caps :evilgrin:
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i feel a photoshop of them on my rocco may be required at some point, if not thats the colour the standard rims will get painted
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There gonna look mint Robin, nice 1 :congrats:
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Looking great Robin, be great to see them once fitted :happy2:
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they look fantastic :drool: :drool:
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Absolutely stunning - good choice Robin
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they look superb!! look a world apart from the monzas!
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Great to read all the enthusiasm for them! :drinking:
Jay - Do you reckon a couple of coats of Zaino before tyres are fitted will be ok? I don't have any other 'wax'.
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That will be fine robin
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I'm still to be convinced and will make my mind up when I see them in the flesh, but so far so good! :happy2:
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The OZ have landed! :jumpmove: :party: :jumpmove:
They won't be fitted until Tuesday but I'm sure I'll post some pics of them before fitting tyres etc.
On the first one out the box the label says 8.035 kg / 17.714 lb and the standard of finish and Titanium colour is almost beyond description! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: - Five Star Drool!
Christmas has come early!
same weight as mine.
All your alloys are 8.035kg
look lean and mean! :happy2:
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I'm still to be convinced and will make my mind up when I see them in the flesh, but so far so good! :happy2:
....And you'll be able to decide if you like them or not next weekend in Germany. Of course, if you The Rim King don't like them I'll have to immediately sell them. :wink:
Wheels are very, very subjective - We each have our own taste.
Mine will look different again when tyre-shod and on the car, but so far so good for me too.
:happy2:
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they will look the dogs Robin :happy2:
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Yep, having placed them alongside my car I'm extremely confident they'll still look great on my car. I immediately noticed how the titanium colour visually connects with the greys in the carbonfibre. But I'm not expecting everyone to like them.
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^ The weight matched my fisherman friend's calibrated digital scales this afternoon.
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they are gonna look stunning :drinking:
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :drool:
Where's my cheque book :laugh:
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Stupid request, but what's the diameter of the centre cap's hole in the bore?
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Stupid request, but what's the diameter of the centre cap's hole in the bore?
....Not stupid at all! You've reminded me to check because I thought it looked to be the same as the oem VW cap on the Monza's.............[checking]...........The union (to use a stokeballoon term) to the alloy is the same but the outer face of the OZ cap is about a couple of mm smaller diameter.
The OZ caps are a very good carbonfibre with silver OZ Racing graphic.
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And that mm is.......?
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :drool:
Where's my cheque book :laugh:
....Yes but your Team Dynamics are better value for money in terms of weight performance. And I think you should sell all your alloys and buy some carbon Dymags! :evilgrin:
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And that mm is.......?
....I'm in the middle of dinner and want to watch The Tudors at 9pm! I'll measure it later - I just offered the two caps up to each other.
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Where's my cheque book :laugh:
....Yes but your Team Dynamics are better value for money in terms of weight performance. And I think you should sell all your alloys and buy some carbon Dymags! :evilgrin:
I don't have enough MMMMM's for the Dymags :grin:
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And that mm is.......?
....I'm in the middle of dinner and want to watch The Tudors at 9pm! I'll measure it later - I just offered the two caps up to each other.
robin, when dinner and the tudors is over can we see a picture of them with the centre cap on please :wink:
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And that mm is.......?
....I'm in the middle of dinner and want to watch The Tudors at 9pm! I'll measure it later - I just offered the two caps up to each other.
+1 :happy2:
robin, when dinner and the tudors is over can we see a picture of them with the centre cap on please :wink:
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58 mm at the narrowest diameter : - (why do you want to know? I'm curious)
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Pretty cool colour isn't it? Such a range of pale to dark.
Nah, you won't like them, Nathan :evilgrin:
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robin, they are going to look amazing , bet your glad you listened to me now ? Ha ha
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robin, they are going to look amazing , bet your glad you listened to me now ? Ha ha
....I most certainly am! :drinking:
I'm even beginning to wonder now whether to keep my Monza 18's.
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They look awesome robin and make your monzas look "sook last year" haha
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love them Robin, the only thing I don't like is the extra set of holes near the mounting holes, for weight loss?, sayin that I'd have a set 2 morra if I had the cash
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I don't know what the reason is for those extra holes - They'll stop on the bell. OZ also offer these Alleggerita's as 4-stud so I wonder if it's just an aesthetic to break up the space.
The rest of the design is fairly plain and I'm not fussed by those holes even if they are just decorative. They might even be there as a manufacturing aid - I'm just guessing and don't have a clue.
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Yep, having placed them alongside my car I'm extremely confident they'll still look great on my car. I immediately noticed how the titanium colour visually connects with the greys in the carbonfibre. But I'm not expecting everyone to like them.
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^ The weight matched my fisherman friend's calibrated digital scales this afternoon.
1. Do you care if someone else does not like them? :surprised:
2. That Sergio guy works his ass off. He left his signature on my wheels as well. :smiley:
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1. Do you care if someone else does not like them? :surprised:
2. That Sergio guy works his ass off. He left his signature on my wheels as well. :smiley:
1. That's a very interesting question - It's usual for someone to want the approval of their peer group. If the vast majority of this community didn't like them (clearly not the case) then I would question my own choice and decide accordingly, bearing in mind that another community/group of people may give approval. I don't expect everyone to like my Alleggerita's - For a long time (4 years!) I preferred Monza's on the Mk5 GTI to all other wheels. Because I am a designer, I have a lot of self-confidence in my choices but one can always do better!
I know from your posts that you're extremely pleased with your Alleggerita's and so I assume you, like myself, don't care overmuch if someone else doesn't like them. I appreciate people being honest in expressing their opinions.
2. I do hope that Sergio's name doesn't appear on every single set of OZ's! I'd like to feel that the name truly does represent an individual's work. Perhaps Sergio is the last stage quality controller.
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I'm struggling to find centre caps for my OZs and nobody seems to want to help me locate the right ones without a part number to order off. Just wanted to see if yours were 70mm like mine?
I've got a temporary solution with some BMW ones I've replaced the badges on... but I'd like genuine ones.
Colour is fantastic, I had some BBS re-done like that and they turned from stainless steel to anthracite depending on the light. I've been told what those 5 holes are for, let me rack my brains!
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hey dude
i know you prefer the oem look but they are the dogs danglies and the colour is schweeet-making me re think satin black on the monzas and going deep anthracite instead.
cant wait to see them on!! :party:
matsu
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I'm struggling to find centre caps for my OZs and nobody seems to want to help me locate the right ones without a part number to order off. Just wanted to see if yours were 70mm like mine?
I've got a temporary solution with some BMW ones I've replaced the badges on... but I'd like genuine ones.
Colour is fantastic, I had some BBS re-done like that and they turned from stainless steel to anthracite depending on the light. I've been told what those 5 holes are for, let me rack my brains!
....Re your OZ centre caps: Phone Keith at Revolution247 - 0845 002 3000 - And say Robin (Golf GTI with Alleggerita's) recommended he would help. If anyone can get some, he can - He's in touch with the OZ factory. Those OZ caps are excellent quality. Mine are about 62mm o/a on the face. They're open on Saturdays. Tell Keith I don't like my wheels and I've already put them up for sale! The basterd pretended to me that I wasn't going to get them in time for my trip and then said he was looking at them!
Yes, I'd love to know what those 5 holes are for if there's a reason other than aesthetic. :happy2:
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Cheers, I'll ring him when I get chance.
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hey dude
i know you prefer the oem look but they are the dogs danglies and the colour is schweeet-making me re think satin black on the monzas and going deep anthracite instead.
cant wait to see them on!! :party:
matsu
....Hey matsu! :drinking:
Yes, for 4 years of owning the car I was convinced I didn't like any aftermarket wheels because I felt that the Monza's are such a unique and recognisable component of the Mk5 GTI identity - Same as I still wouldn't debadge my GTI. It wasn't that I didn't like what other people were doing but simply that it wasn't for me. However, I couldn't ignore what WhiteGTI told me (confirmed by Hurdy) about what lightweight wheels add to the handling feedback. I still love my Monza's and wouldn't have swopped them for aesthetic reasons only.
Re 'deep anthracite' on your Monza's - It's a tricky decision: I haven't seen 'anthracite' (or similar) on a Monza and wonder how it would look on what are much larger areas of 'spoke'. So much depends on the shape of a wheel as to how well a colour suits it and also how the effect is influenced by the play of light. The shape of the Alleggerita's brings out the best of their titanium colour. We already know that the Satin Black (often looks matt) suits the Monza but these things are also so personal whether you like them.
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1. Do you care if someone else does not like them? :surprised:
2. That Sergio guy works his ass off. He left his signature on my wheels as well. :smiley:
1. That's a very interesting question - It's usual for someone to want the approval of their peer group. If the vast majority of this community didn't like them (clearly not the case) then I would question my own choice and decide accordingly, bearing in mind that another community/group of people may give approval. I don't expect everyone to like my Alleggerita's - For a long time (4 years!) I preferred Monza's on the Mk5 GTI to all other wheels. Because I am a designer, I have a lot of self-confidence in my choices but one can always do better!
I know from your posts that you're extremely pleased with your Alleggerita's and so I assume you, like myself, don't care overmuch if someone else doesn't like them. I appreciate people being honest in expressing their opinions.
Too many letterz :rolleye: You philosopher you. :P
Simple YES or NO would have been sufficient.
Yes, I am crazy about Alleggeritas. :jumpmove:
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2. I do hope that Sergio's name doesn't appear on every single set of OZ's! I'd like to feel that the name truly does represent an individual's work. Perhaps Sergio is the last stage quality controller.
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that's exactly who he is. He weighs the wheels and makes sure they are all within 2% interval deviation from mean weight, which is 8.035kg by method of deduction (= my weigh the same as yours).
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....Hey matsu!
Yes, for 4 years of owning the car I was convinced I didn't like any aftermarket wheels because I felt that the Monza's are such a unique and recognisable component of the Mk5 GTI identity - Same as I still wouldn't debadge my GTI. It wasn't that I didn't like what other people were doing but simply that it wasn't for me. However, I couldn't ignore what WhiteGTI told me (confirmed by Hurdy) about what lightweight wheels add to the handling feedback. I still love my Monza's and wouldn't have swopped them for aesthetic reasons only.
Re 'deep anthracite' on your Monza's - It's a tricky decision: I haven't seen 'anthracite' (or similar) on a Monza and wonder how it would look on what are much larger areas of 'spoke'. So much depends on the shape of a wheel as to how well a colour suits it and also how the effect is influenced by the play of light. The shape of the Alleggerita's brings out the best of their titanium colour. We already know that the Satin Black (often looks matt) suits the Monza but these things are also so personal whether you like them.
ive seen a few other makes of car in black with a grey effect on the wheels and they look good but i,m thinking the monzas would look better shiny black-if they had been monzaII's i would have done what you did with yours as that diamond cut edge looks sharp and it IS a hallmark of the gti. if i spend too much time thinking about all this i,ll go round the twist, and i,m half way to an institution already.
part of my new reasoning is i dont want to be seen copying anything or everything i see on here but i am yet to see a black gti with black rims down my way
i,m talking to a guy about doing the rims and colour coding it all at same time,oops theres goes this months food money! :jumping:
thanks for your help
and 'urry up and get them rims on with lots pics!!
matsu
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Hi All
I registered on here a little while ago when Robin mentioned that he was a member and there was a thread going about the wheels he was buying from myself.
Just thought I would come on and introduce myself, I am the store manager at Revolution Moutorstore in Gateshead. We have been going since 1997 and do most aftermarket parts for most makes of car.
If any members need anything don't hesitate to give me a call or PM or email me.
We always do deals for forum members too so just ask for me and quote the forum name. (and no, Robin you can't have any more money off the OZ's!!!)
FAO Tony Danza
Give me a bell regarding your centre caps, I should be able to get them if I do not already have some in stock.
There are a few different sizes of cap for different OZ rims but if you can give me the spec of your wheel (width, model etc etc) I should be able to identify which caps you need.
Thanks
Keith
Revolution
www.revolution247.com
keith@revolution247.com
0845 0023000
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Jay - Do you reckon a couple of coats of Zaino before tyres are fitted will be ok? I don't have any other 'wax'.
That will be fine robin
....Boy O boy! I just put 1 coat of Zaino on one of the LeggyRita's so far and it really makes it shine and brings out even more colour effects :drool:
I put a third coat of Zaino on my car the other day and I'm now a huge fan of the stuff.
Planning on 3 coats of Zaino on each wheel before the tyres go on. Thanks, Jay :drinking:
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This dodgy guy was seen in a car park at the weekend trying to sell some wheels he was claiming were genuine OZ Alleggerita's : -
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This dodgy guy was seen in a car park at the weekend trying to sell some wheels he was claiming were genuine OZ Alleggerita's : -
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Car boot sale already robin....... Youve only had them a week!!! :signLOL:
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I likey! :happy2: Show your brakes off a treat! :wink:
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nice sooooooo much better
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me too, deffo see more of your brakes, but get that tyre lube cleaned of the rear tyre :smiley: would like to see a side on shot on level ground :happy2:
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me too, deffo see more of your brakes, but get that tyre lube cleaned of the rear tyre :smiley: would like to see a side on shot on level ground :happy2:
....Will do when I have time and after cleaning them up - What's best way of cleaning off tyre lube?
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liking them a lot really suit the car :happy2:
that may have hit my wallet
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I likey! :happy2: Show your brakes off a treat! :wink:
....They look even better in real life and are tricky to capture in photographs. They tend to look grey in pics but aren't really grey at all.
It'll be much easier to clean more of the brake caliper. I felt much more heat off my discs with these wheels. Drive feel much different too.
I'll write a review after our Ring trip. :happy2:
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me too, deffo see more of your brakes, but get that tyre lube cleaned of the rear tyre :smiley: would like to see a side on shot on level ground :happy2:
....Will do when I have time and after cleaning them up - What's best way of cleaning off tyre lube?
Some hard turn-ins robin will shift off the lube :wink:
Looking lovelly mate, simular colour looking to my present set. :happy2:
She suits the car very well, and as been said, shows off your Magnificent stoppers :happy2:
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....Works well with my RacingLine (VWR) stickers.
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absolutely gorg RR :notworthy: , top class , cant wait for the review right up :happy2:
cant see the VWR sticker though :wink:
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WOW! they look awesome Robin :drool: bet your chuffed! im not jealous honest. :notworthy:
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get some sort of locking device on them RR, will stop the chancers at least
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get some sort of locking device on them RR, will stop the chancers at least
....Already organised :happy2: - Round seated McGards being delivered to me tomorrow. Keith (Revolution247) was out of stock.
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Robin they look absolutely brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you pleased that you took my advice?? :smiley: :smiley:
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wow they look fantastic you must be very pleased
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Robin they look absolutely brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you pleased that you took my advice?? :smiley: :smiley:
....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drinking:
Not only am I pleased with how they transform the look of the car - Somehow much 'meaner', but also the steering feels so much more direct. It's a mod which perfectly combines with well setup suspension - I can't wait for this weekend at The Ring etc.
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Nyom Nyom :drool:
Can't wait to see these on the car Robin.
See you in two days :happy2:
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See you in two days :happy2:
....Please PM or txt me your ETA Dover on Thursday so I can plan to arrive around similar time. I'll be having lunch on the way with friends who live in Surrey, so it's easy for me :happy2:
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See you in two days :happy2:
....Please PM or txt me your ETA Dover on Thursday so I can plan to arrive around similar time. I'll be having lunch on the way with friends who live in Surrey, so it's easy for me :happy2:
Will do Robin :happy2:
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would like to see a side on shot on level ground :happy2:
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McGards are now fitted :drinking:
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sure is RR, looks very purposeful, thumbs up from me :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
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S'pose they look ok.....
Ha, they look ace. McGards however are the devil - replace before they bite.
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they look ok mate but i would ditch the racingline badge down the side but leave it on the mirrors as i think the car looks longer from the side profile and it just takes to much away from the look of the car :confused:
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looking good robin, see you in germany this weekend :happy2:
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McGards however are the devil - replace before they bite.
....My wheels get taken on and off every few months for tyres or other reasons so I think I'll be okay - I have been so far with McGards on my Monza's. Do they 'glue' in fast if left for a long time?
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i would ditch the racingline badge down the side but leave it on the mirrors as i think the car looks longer from the side profile and it just takes to much away from the look of the car :confused:
I was wondering exactly the same since fitting the OZ but I'll leave it a bit longer rather than rush into the decision.
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McGards however are the devil - replace before they bite.
....My wheels get taken on and off every few months for tyres or other reasons so I think I'll be okay - I have been so far with McGards on my Monza's. Do they 'glue' in fast if left for a long time?
No, they either snap the puzzle out of the socket or break the head of the bolt. I've been through a few sets and given up.
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McGards however are the devil - replace before they bite.
....My wheels get taken on and off every few months for tyres or other reasons so I think I'll be okay - I have been so far with McGards on my Monza's. Do they 'glue' in fast if left for a long time?
No, they either snap the puzzle out of the socket or break the head of the bolt. I've been through a few sets and given up.
....Are you doing them up too tight? I used a hand lever torque wrench set at 110Nm.
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Yep 110nm - tightened up last and removed first to reduce stress. They're toss and I'm hardly the first to have issues with them.
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McGards however are the devil - replace before they bite.
....My wheels get taken on and off every few months for tyres or other reasons so I think I'll be okay - I have been so far with McGards on my Monza's. Do they 'glue' in fast if left for a long time?
x2 - Mc Gards by their security have a 'puzzle' in the top, and that is so easy to chew up. I had 2 sets f'up on my last Golf. Just running std VW ones now. The New MK6 lockers are a different design, and may be worth a look. I seemed to remember thinking it was a good idea when i saw them.
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I've not had any McGards problems in 3 years of use. I can't use VW bolts on the OZ's anyway, so here's hoping!
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looking very nice Robin :happy2:
could be interested in a set myself, what off set are they and how much clearance you got over the AP's, as I know the stoptech's i have require more clearence
thanks
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Cheers, James :happy2:
Loads of clearance over the AP's - You can get your fingers in and clean the back of the spoke. I intend including such pics to illustrate when I write my review later next week.
Offset is ET 48 (Monza 18 is ET 51).
OZ offer some great colours too if you're feeling bold but Titanium HLT is much more exciting than other wheel company's anthracites (imo). I can't recommend Keith at Revolution247 highly enough - Great service and good price - He's a petrolhead.
HTH :smiley:
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Robin they look absolutely brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you pleased that you took my advice?? :smiley: :smiley:
....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drinking:
Not only am I pleased with how they transform the look of the car - Somehow much 'meaner', but also the steering feels so much more direct. It's a mod which perfectly combines with well setup suspension - I can't wait for this weekend at The Ring etc.
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Great to hear Robin. I can't get over how good they look! When you had decided on them, whilst your choice was spot on for the functional improvements, I really did think that they would look pants. But from your photos they look stunning!
Steering is great isnt it!!!! :party: :party: :party: :party:
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Hi all, I am new here and bringing an old thread to hopefully get some answers regarding fitting of th OZ ALLEGGERITA.
I know the bolt type M14/1.5. The only problem that confuses me is that I cannot find the radial seating size of the bolt for the rim.
I read that there are R12, R13 & R14 and original rims and bolts are R13. How about these? Please help and thank you in advance!
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RedRobin was using oem bolts (I know as I needed to use one of his spares at the Nurburgring :scared:), so R13 :happy2:
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RedRobin was using oem bolts (I know as I needed to use one of his spares at the Nurburgring :scared:), so R13 :happy2:
....Actually I don't think so, John. I had spare OEM bolts because of using McGard security bolts and luckily for you they were still in my boot (to give extra weight of course!).
I'm not sure about the R size and would advise contacting an official OZ Alleggerita dealer.
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RedRobin was using oem bolts (I know as I needed to use one of his spares at the Nurburgring :scared:), so R13 :happy2:
Hey Hurdy,
I can somewhat agree with RedRobin as OEM bolt shanks are not long enough (ideally?) for the 'geritas' it needs at least another 3-4mm more...
RedRobin was using oem bolts (I know as I needed to use one of his spares at the Nurburgring :scared:), so R13 :happy2:
....Actually I don't think so, John. I had spare OEM bolts because of using McGard security bolts and luckily for you they were still in my boot (to give extra weight of course!).
I'm not sure about the R size and would advise contacting an official OZ Alleggerita dealer.
Hi RedRobin, I was hoping for your reply and indeed i got that. Thank you! To bring this further, if you are using any of McFard security bolts on the 'geritas', do you by any chance know the part number youre using? I found a table chart specifying the 'R' size but as said above, am unsure which one to use.
Yes, I have contacted OZ directly and fingers crossing that they will come back to me soon. An authorize OZ dealer may not even know as many are quite uninformed with these knowledge - unfortunately...
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Hi RedRobin, I was hoping for your reply and indeed i got that. Thank you! To bring this further, if you are using any of McFard security bolts on the 'geritas', do you by any chance know the part number youre using? I found a table chart specifying the 'R' size but as said above, am unsure which one to use.
Yes, I have contacted OZ directly and fingers crossing that they will come back to me soon. An authorize OZ dealer may not even know as many are quite uninformed with these knowledge - unfortunately...
....Try Keith Tyler at Revolution247 (Gateshead) 0845 002 3000 (and give him my best regards!) - He is very knowledgable and very helpful. I bought my OZ LeggyRita's there. :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_INK%2FLeggyRita.jpg&hash=85f2b778bab881014344542ab322545dc6268647)
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RedRobin,
Thank you very much for the reference and replying on this again. I have verification from Tirerack guys that OZ is indeed on R12. Well, at least on the 'leggyritas' LOL. My guy screwed up the seat a bit with taper bolts and i managed to have true OZ bolts at no extra charge. Yes, not all countries comes with bolts inclusions!
I am pissed, but relieved at the same time...