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Title: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: darrens on August 23, 2009, 01:18:02 pm
I have just sold my ED30  and have put it back to standard and removed the H&R springs.  My wife has a VW Jetta 2.0D Sport and I was told that the H&R's would fit them but I didn't think that it was possible due to the different engine weights etc?

Could some of the suspension guru's confirm before I put them up for sale  :smiley:

Thanks
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: TomB on August 23, 2009, 04:33:16 pm
Unfortunately they're not the same.

GTI springs on a TDI will not be strong enough so it will drop more at the front and probably break a coil in a year or two.
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: too hot on August 23, 2009, 05:13:41 pm
I might be interested if you want to sell the springs? :smiley:
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: darrens on August 24, 2009, 08:32:16 am
I thought as much.

If they don't fit then yes, they will be up for sale.  Drop me a pm or keep an eye out for the sale thread. 
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: NotNormal on August 24, 2009, 09:21:27 am
I've been running Eibach Sportlines for a GTi (circa 50mm drop) on my car, a 170 diesel, done 30000 within a year on them - no issues.

Your springs you have will be fine.

My ride height is exactly the same as the GTi

Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: TomB on August 24, 2009, 07:20:32 pm
Well if you go for it, I hope you don't live near me.  Incorrect spring rates can have horrenous consequences, and they really don't last that long.  I'm not just blowing smoke, I've worked in car parts for quite a few years now.

NotNormal, are you sure you didn't get TDI springs to begin with?

Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: NotNormal on August 24, 2009, 08:55:24 pm
Well if you go for it, I hope you don't live near me.  Incorrect spring rates can have horrenous consequences, and they really don't last that long.  I'm not just blowing smoke, I've worked in car parts for quite a few years now.

NotNormal, are you sure you didn't get TDI springs to begin with?



Yes, quite sure, would you like me to get the part number off the box ?

SO how do coilovers not f u c k up when you change the spring rate to what the driver prefer's ??

Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: gazbutS3 on August 24, 2009, 08:57:51 pm
you don't change the spring rate with coilovers, you change the spring seat height, so the spring isn't more compressed when you alter the ride height :smiley:
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: NotNormal on August 24, 2009, 09:06:48 pm
you don't change the spring rate with coilovers, you change the spring seat height, so the spring isn't more compressed when you alter the ride height :smiley:

I know how coilovers work, you can order different spring rate for different setup's - drivers prefernce, driver/telemerty input sugesting greater/lesser spring rates
Yes, ride height is adjustable, but you can, on the better spec'd coilover sets adjust daming bound/rebound ect....

Look on the Ohlins www site for example, or any good coilover manurfacturer for that  !
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: Deako on August 24, 2009, 09:28:56 pm
you don't change the spring rate with coilovers, you change the spring seat height, so the spring isn't more compressed when you alter the ride height :smiley:

I know how coilovers work, you can order different spring rate for different setup's - drivers prefernce, driver/telemerty input sugesting greater/lesser spring rates
Yes, ride height is adjustable, but you can, on the better spec'd coilover sets adjust daming bound/rebound ect....

Look on the Ohlins www site for example, or any good coilover manurfacturer for that  !


Correct!! You can purchase varying spring rates for coilover suspension. To suit driving style and particular setups for varying track conditions. Not just coilovers either. Pretty much any suspension configuration can be customised with spring rates.

While the might not be the correct part for the TDI, the rates are only going to be minimally different.

I did a VR6 conversion into a Mk2 Golf from a Passat. Cut a coil out the passat vr6 springs, and fitted them to my Mk2 Golf bodies. That was perfectly safe and i never had any issues.

I would say they will be fine, however, they arent correct, so might only 99.9% as effective as they should have. You will only have issues with springs snapping from very poor quality components, of which Eibach Sportlines arent.
Title: Re: Will GTI H&R Springs fit a 2.0 Sport Diesel?
Post by: BMX on August 25, 2009, 06:57:29 am
the gti springs are listed for the gt sport also, so it cant be to do with it being a diesel. prob something to do with the strut size and shocker rate at a guess