Who shall I choose to remap my GTI?
Currently looking at AmD suggesting +60 bhp and +78 lbs/ft with stage 1
Can anyone share recommendations/experience.
For a Stage 2 map, i think you'd be looking at a full TBE and intake.
For a Stage 2 map, i think you'd be looking at a full TBE and intake.
For a Stage 2 map, i think you'd be looking at a full TBE and intake.
Why do people insist on stating a full TBE is required for stage 2!!!!
The only requirement is a downpipe c/w sports cat or decat!!!
Looks good, I'm nearly 200 miles away but might be worth a road trip.
He has stage2+ and stage3 what's the difference?
On my ed30 I've got
Full Milltek tbe (decat)
CAI
Hpfp internals
S3 / Golf R intercooler
New rev G Dv and new cam follower
Revo pcv delete.
I thought stage 2 was 330bhp? and stage2+ 350bhp+Mine was set up at stage 2 TIV map, @331bhp
Shark Performance :innocent:
Revo FTW
Stage 2+ 367 BHP and 353lbft Torque
I will have a look under the bonnetRevo FTW
Stage 2+ 367 BHP and 353lbft Torque
What engine code do you have? My golf will find revo too harsh I'm told, and knowing the problems I've had it will be true. BWA engine is weaker than the ed30 engine which can take that bit more power....an dare I saw an aggressive revo map!
^^^^ I'll be getting my RTech Stage2 TIV map done on Friday. You still running stock intercooler and HPFP? Good figure that!! :happy2:
I will have a look under the bonnetRevo FTW
Stage 2+ 367 BHP and 353lbft Torque
What engine code do you have? My golf will find revo too harsh I'm told, and knowing the problems I've had it will be true. BWA engine is weaker than the ed30 engine which can take that bit more power....an dare I saw an aggressive revo map!
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You were right that is aggressive
BYD code 230 bhp
Am sure with a few tweaks Nick will have it near that figure
Nick has achieved 400bhp from a K04 with WMI. That was a BWA engine :happy2:
Not known any tuner to beat it :laugh:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,72496.msg779517.html#msg779517
^^^^ I'll be getting my RTech Stage2 TIV map done on Friday. You still running stock intercooler and HPFP? Good figure that!! :happy2:
Nick & co won't let you go home until he's happy with his map on yr car...
As I said before I would of gone to him to remap my golfR but he turned me away so
I went for GIAC instead..
What's the Facebook page called?
If you had simply typed in Rtech into the search box it would come up.
:confused:
https://www.facebook.com/niki.r.gower?fref=ts
Niki will accept friend requests if you just add him :happy2:
Niki will accept friend requests if you just add him :happy2:
lol I have! Think my phones playing up! I've out my results but want pictures! ahhhh
I'm hearing good things about mine, but literally just added so can't see it yet! :laugh:
Yup... Turned lots of Golf R customers away because I thought they had an med17 ecu which I am not looking into tuning yet, but then another tuner points out they are med9 which I am happy to work with and understand well. I got a golf r due in for some R&D soon. I have not failed to tune an med9 or me7 to the power needed with the mods, the let down is the hardware limitations. Give me a tfsi setup good for 1000bhp and I am sure with time I could get the map to compliment 1000bhp, same with the dubshack racing mk4 golf, every other tuner refused to tune it or wanted to fit standalone ecus, but after 100+ hours live mapping time I managed to take a stock me7.5 1.8t 150bhp map to 810bhp, and thats not the mapping limiting the power. If I feel confident tuning I will do a good job, if I am not confident then I won't entertain the job, I will send to a tuner who I think has the skills. All my big turbo / hybrid tdi stuff all gets pointed straight to Darkside because IMO they are confident with TDIs full stop.
OP, get this man ^^^^ to map your car! he sure knows his onions, takes his time, listens to what you want and achieves it, is a really nice chap (they all are) and to top it off Ben makes a cracking cup of tea (even for Bradford supporter :evilgrin:)
Lovely to meet you today Nick, thanks for all you did. :happy2:I'm hearing good things about mine, but literally just added so can't see it yet! :laugh:
Saw yours up there today, looks the nuts! :notworthy:
OP, get this man ^^^^ to map your car! he sure knows his onions, takes his time, listens to what you want and achieves it, is a really nice chap (they all are) and to top it off Ben makes a cracking cup of tea (even for Bradford supporter :evilgrin:)
Lovely to meet you today Nick, thanks for all you did. :happy2:I'm hearing good things about mine, but literally just added so can't see it yet! :laugh:
Saw yours up there today, looks the nuts! :notworthy:
Sounds like another satisfied R-Tech customer :happy2:
And people take the pi$s for me recommending R-Tech in that way :grin:
Saw your result on Facebook! Are you going to write up a proper review MC?
Lol. I just stick with the 2.5T me9 Focus as its same as me9 tfsi. If I went and become Jack of all trades(ecus) I would be bloody rich and have an Rs6 by now, but many sleepless night wondering if I tuned x car ecu correct.
If only R-tech listed prices on their website.
http://www.r-techpower.co.uk/r-tech-producs.php
Lol. I just stick with the 2.5T me9 Focus as its same as me9 tfsi. If I went and become Jack of all trades(ecus) I would be bloody rich and have an Rs6 by now, but many sleepless night wondering if I tuned x car ecu correct.
I cant argue with that. (As much as I want to :fighting: :evilgrin: )
OUt of interest, i dont suppose you know what ECU is in the 2.0T ST
Bosch MED17 Same as TSI,
Bosch MED17 Same as TSI,
Gutted. I reckon you should ditch the 1.8T now and concentrate on VAG 2.0TSI and Ford 2.0T Eco units then :innocent:
Nah. The aim of Nicks Job is to please petrol heads. The key to achieving that is in the term "petrol" :innocent:
No place for diesel :wink:
Nah. The aim of Nicks Job is to please petrol heads. The key to achieving that is in the term "petrol" :innocent:
No place for diesel :wink:
Secretly though he loves the simplicity of tuning a TDI, no spark plug concerns, AFR worries, DV's splitting, PCV's leaking, cam follower failing, just turn up the boost, bit more fuel. . . WIN
Do Rtec do custom mapping?
What bhp/torque are people getting with stage2+ with Rtec.
Cheers
I believe if you only map your car once then no comparison so you'll know no better.
Like I said if you only map your car once then no comparison to a so called generic map,which mine was done on the road.
I prefer a car to be mapped on the road as that is where it'll be driven.
Anyone shed some light on how much an R-Tech stage 2 map is on a normal Mk5 Golf gti?
I only see a dyno as being good for figures and a road better for setting a car up but I am no mapper,how do F1 do theirs ?
I guess we differ,I only know I am happy with mine and also you are happy with your one,oh and if you want to talk about reviews and popularity then who is a global company :drinking:
Hurdy's goes like stink !! thought it was more like a rocket on speed lol
I only see a dyno as being good for figures and a road better for setting a car up but I am no mapper,how do F1 do theirs ?
I guess we differ,I only know I am happy with mine and also you are happy with your one,oh and if you want to talk about reviews and popularity then who is a global company :drinking:
Hurdy's goes like stink !! thought it was more like a rocket on speed lol
F1 teams will use an engine dyno most likely.
I only see a dyno as being good for figures and a road better for setting a car up but I am no mapper,how do F1 do theirs ?
I guess we differ,I only know I am happy with mine and also you are happy with your one,oh and if you want to talk about reviews and popularity then who is a global company :drinking:
Hurdy's goes like stink !! thought it was more like a rocket on speed lol
F1 teams will use an engine dyno most likely.
Well I don't see many out on the road being mapped... :laugh:
Nick has achieved 400bhp from a K04 with WMI. That was a BWA engine :happy2:
Not known any tuner to beat it :laugh:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,72496.msg779517.html#msg779517
pmsl.
A newbie trying to win friends I see! :signLOL: :signLOL:
Not sure if the car was rr elsewhere but it wasnt something what r-tech would do to an average customers car as far as i can remember anyway
And it did go pop at some point i belive.. Wether it was at that point of tune i dunno
Two ed30s with stage2+ with 30bhp difference from the same tuner, 30bhp is quite a big difference.
pmsl.
I normally refrain from such outbursts, but seriously, I respect R-Tech as a tuner but this guy seriously needs to calm down a bit, and stop wagging his tail and humping the table leg every time they are mentioned.
I know of 2, maybe 3 highly skilled tuners, but they are not widely publicised because they don't hang out with the kids on facebook or come onto forums. It's not all about punching numbers into the mapping software. The engine is just an air pump and there's no way a K04 can pump enough air in to make a genuine 400hp. The VV Race cars see 400ish from a hybrid K04 sure, but not a straight 04 off the shelf that's thrown onto 8P S3s and ED30s. Take the engine out of the car and put it on a proper engine dynamometer and it will be nowhere near 400.
Mapping is just manipulating the rail pressure to see 0.8 lambda in the meat of the boost and lambda 1 every where else. Nowhere do I see boost pressures quoted, air mass figures, ignition timing at WOT, intake air temps etc etc to support these hp numbers thrown around.
Normally you see 340ish hp and torque from 1.4 bar spike, held at 1.2 to the red. Now 1.4 is pretty close to the ragged edge for a K04. Either 400 is coming from seriously over spinning it - turning the intercooler into a nice interheater in the process, so WMI just cools it back to where it would be normally running less boost - or there's some pixie dust sprinkled on that engine. 60hp cannot come from fuel and timing adjustments.
Oh and TiV is just sales speak for flat spot removal.
Not sure if the car was rr elsewhere but it wasnt something what r-tech would do to an average customers car as far as i can remember anyway
And it did go pop at some point i belive.. Wether it was at that point of tune i dunno
it did I went and ran on jkms dyno ... and got same numbers as r-tech.
The car was running a rich wmi setup... and as we all know the tfsi engines are high compression and knock limited under boost which non det aided will only see 10-13deg advance with 99ron, so the out right flow of the k04-064 is not limited at stage2+ infact the out right power is knock limited which decent tuners will agree with. Now run race fuel 104+ or a rich wmi setup and the knock window moves and the combustion stroke becomes more effective, basically free power from timing advance.
The k04-064 on its out right compressor flow is maxed out around 360-365hp by 6500rpm, so to make 400hp mark you need to be aiming for peak hp closer to 5000rpm where the aggressive compressor of the k04 is in its sweet spot, but combustion pressure and emp is very high so the wmi is used to keep a decent timing window.
Correct you cannot make 60hp from fuel or timing if at the point the turbo is maxed out at 7000rpm.... its never going to happen, so you move the tuning to the left and work on the area where the turbo can give more but limiter by peak cylinder pressure ie knock on a 10.3:1 CR 20v lump..
TIV is removal of the med9 ARMD function which hinders the torque climb rate, with this function remove an unique timing setup can be used..
I've heard lots of great things about R-Tech and was planning on going there for my stage 2+ next year but now I've read Puddings comments my eyes have been opened. :jumping:
As soon as you become successful people always want to try and talk sh*t, maybe there's lots of good reviews because Niki knows what he's doing? I've never heard anybody raving about Puddings customer service :laugh:
pmsl.
I normally refrain from such outbursts, but seriously, I respect R-Tech as a tuner but this guy seriously needs to calm down a bit, and stop wagging his tail and humping the table leg every time they are mentioned.
I know of 2, maybe 3 highly skilled tuners, but they are not widely publicised because they don't hang out with the kids on facebook or come onto forums. It's not all about punching numbers into the mapping software. The engine is just an air pump and there's no way a K04 can pump enough air in to make a genuine 400hp. The VV Race cars see 400ish from a hybrid K04 sure, but not a straight 04 off the shelf that's thrown onto 8P S3s and ED30s. Take the engine out of the car and put it on a proper engine dynamometer and it will be nowhere near 400.
Mapping is just manipulating the rail pressure to see 0.8 lambda in the meat of the boost and lambda 1 every where else. Nowhere do I see boost pressures quoted, air mass figures, ignition timing at WOT, intake air temps etc etc to support these hp numbers thrown around.
Normally you see 340ish hp and torque from 1.4 bar spike, held at 1.2 to the red. Now 1.4 is pretty close to the ragged edge for a K04. Either 400 is coming from seriously over spinning it - turning the intercooler into a nice interheater in the process, so WMI just cools it back to where it would be normally running less boost - or there's some pixie dust sprinkled on that engine. 60hp cannot come from fuel and timing adjustments.
Oh and TiV is just sales speak for flat spot removal.
I struggle with making a true linear 400hp from a hybrid, by linear I mean 400hp close to peak rpm, they all struggle due to one huge factor common with the k04-064... the exhaust manifold which give high emps which contributes to knock and low post head effectiveness. not many hybrids run a linear 400hp without the wmi in there, Take the l04xx which I tuned on a 9.8:1 CR CDL s3, knock limited sub 400hp by 6500rpm, yes can pull out timing and run more boost which at 1.7bar is more heat and it dont work. That ended at 412hp with wmi then went on to prove the point on the 1/4 mile by running a 11.9s.. L0400 I hit al knock wall at 385hp non wmi.
TIV is the name I used to promote a unique method of tuning, on the tfsi med9 it was about removing the anti buck maps ARMD maps, which are also in play in the me7 1.8T maps which over the year all tuners missed out, we was the first to remove them and tune with a refined ignition output which opened all new methods to gain performance under all conditions, the main one was lower egts. I started to use the term TIV mapping, to say remove the timing based torque interventions, I then shared this info with another tuner, you might know him? Bill at badger5? he then started to use the term TIV, which I had trademarked to stop him confusing people.
by the way 1.4bar peak is so 2008..... its at 1.7bar @4400rpm now because its all about tuning the k04 like a small turbo and not trying to flow linear like a big turbo, tune it for the power band which is going to get used...... and by turning the inlet cam maps in to maps for performance and not to save the planet to meet strict emission laws there is a whole new avenue of power to unlock!!!
By reading your past posts on the forum it seems you dont understand the concepts of the tfsi gdi engine? you question why is dont run stratified injection so what is the point?? the point is and the development was to build a high compression engine which can run hot lean clean and safe on the edge of the knock window. With pre mixed combustion setups like the 20v 1.8T the engine would knock its tits off, but they got around the knock at high cr by running homogeneous fuel injection which gives a perfect boundary layer, to aid cooling and emissions. The tfsi can run happy lambd 1 with homogeneous lean injection. Yes the mpg would be much better if it was stratified lean burn setup.
I can see your point fully dude, but make your own mind up and not what others tell you. :happy2: Any questions about tfsi or tfsi tuning please feel free to ask me I am more than willing to help everyone.
I've heard lots of great things about R-Tech and was planning on going there for my stage 2+ next year but now I've read Puddings comments my eyes have been opened. :jumping:
As soon as you become successful people always want to try and talk sh*t, maybe there's lots of good reviews because Niki knows what he's doing? I've never heard anybody raving about Puddings customer service :laugh:
+2 BIGTIME
Who the F@@k is pudding?
:stupid:More like u are :stupid:
I think the :stupid: is because it went from slating to thanking and is a bit confusing. Yes everyone has their own opinion but there's a way of putting yours across without offending people.:stupid:More like u are :stupid:
The bloke is entitled to his own opinion
I think the :stupid: is because it went from slating to thanking and is a bit confusing.:stupid:More like u are :stupid:
The bloke is entitled to his own opinion
I think the :stupid: is because it went from slating to thanking and is a bit confusing.:stupid:More like u are :stupid:
The bloke is entitled to his own opinion
I back his corner, he's Entitled to his opinion and if he has apologised so be it !
He is not stupid
Niki?
The info and the way you've explained your methods in this thread is a great insight (and of great interest) into the way you tune and why you do certain things a certain way. You really should add all this info into the R-Tech Zone section as a sticky IMO..........******you'll never need to answer another question again!*******
:wink:
I think the :stupid: is because it went from slating to thanking and is a bit confusing.:stupid:More like u are :stupid:
The bloke is entitled to his own opinion
I back his corner, he's Entitled to his opinion and if he has apologised so be it !
He is not stupid
as above it went from slating to thanking
tazgti5 ive also seen you slating r-tech and for some reason getting pissed off and as you said getting sick to death of people blabbing on about r-tech when people recommend them :stupid:, at the end of the day you or pudding dont really know nothing about tuning a 2.0 tfsi.. theres my opinion
Niki?
The info and the way you've explained your methods in this thread is a great insight (and of great interest) into the way you tune and why you do certain things a certain way. You really should add all this info into the R-Tech Zone section as a sticky IMO..........******you'll never need to answer another question again!*******
:wink:
Ahahahahahahahahaha...... yeah right. :grin:
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@Tazgti5 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10398)Why am I having a ban?
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If it's because I've stood up to some1 I think is a bully@Tazgti5 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10398)Why am I having a ban?
Nearing a ban... you have been warned.
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No, its because we don't tolerate abusive language being directed at other members.Fair enuff!