MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: robern2 on October 10, 2013, 10:38:10 pm
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Haven't heard from my local dealer directly but michelin now listing 225/40/18 92y xl on their site !
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Are they really so so unbelievably good? I suppose if Ferrari use them they must be decent.
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Not used them myself but will be trying them next
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i have been running them for about 6000 miles.
it just grips, and bends in the road where you previously may have braked you dont need to so makes the car even faster :driver:
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I found out yesterday that they are being shipped from France on the 15th November and will be available in the UK from the end of November. No details on price yet though.
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i have been running them for about 6000 miles.
it just grips, and bends in the road where you previously may have braked you dont need to so makes the car even faster :driver:
Sounds good!
But how do they compare with GY AS2s?
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much better in the dry but worse in the wet if the reviews are to be believed.
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Those would be the main characteristics of most Michelins! Along with v good wear rate of course.
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Ignore any review that says they are bad in the wet. They are not. Loads better than the Goodyears in both the dry and the wet.
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Have to agree with Alex, complete nonsense about being worse in the wet than Goodyears
I had two full sets of the Goodyears and rate them highly, but the super sports are a different league
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Quantifiable testing over what something "thinks" is better all day long I'm afraid. If we sign up to the opposite way of thinking, then it's no better than Pub talk is it.
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I ran Asym2s on my old 135i, and I've got Supersports on my M135i.
Not exactly the same car, but both powerful RWD and according to the Internet, 99% likely to kill me as soon as it start spitting rain.
Supersports have better sidewall stiffness, so better 'feel'. They're say 10% more stable and grippy, but there isn't a 'night and day' difference.
Wet grip, I'd say they were the same. After 8k miles, the rears are 1/2 worn, the fronts 1/3 worn.
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Its the soft sidewalls that let the GYs down...
For me it would require a "night and day" difference to warrant the extra cost of the SS over the GYF1v2.
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Its the soft sidewalls that let the GYs down...
For me it would require a "night and day" difference to warrant the extra cost of the SS over the GYF1v2.
The SS can easily be used on track as well, so saves you for having an extra set of wheels, that's got to count for something :wink:
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Goodyears no good on track?
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Goodyears no good on track?
Goodyear is a good high performance tyre for road use, i would not classify it as a track day tyre, but the SS is. I have used it both on Ring Knutstorp in wet and dry on the same day and also on Donington on a 29 degrees day without issues and it kept up even with those cars running the R888, i do not believe that the single compound GY2 can do so :smiley:
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Surely the SS is still a road tyre... I cant see it being anywhere near as track orientated as the a048/888/direzza type tyre.
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Goodyears no good on track?
Mine were fine on track in both wet and dry conditions, ran them at oulton, the ring and spa and whilst not in the same performance bracket as my Fed RSRs I found them more than up to track use if needed :happy2:
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supersports will never be beaten as an all rounder
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Surely the SS is still a road tyre... I cant see it being anywhere near as track orientated as the a048/888/direzza type tyre.
They have the grip level need for track due to the dual compound, yet still have the treadwear for the road, best part is the tyre pressure is the same for track and road meaning they are hazzlefree to use on both occations.
Absolutely the best of both worlds.
I base this on having tried the following tyres on my Golf:
Bridgestone RE050a (worst tyre tried)
Toyo R1R (quite high noise level but great grip)
Toyo R888 (Great grip, high noiselevel, bit tricky getting the tyrepressure right)
Michelin PS3 (Great road tyre but lacking grip for high powered car use)
Michelin PS Cup (Very dangerous in the wet when not up in heat)
Yokohama AD08 (Excellent behaviour on the road, grips well in the wet)
PSS ( By far my favourite for road with a couple of trackdays as well)
:happy2:
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The PSS will definitely be my next choice of tyre once the cr@ppy winter weather passes. Will be getting 4 put on the OZ once they've been refurbed over the winter, can't wait to feel the grip levels that everyone raves about! :jumpmove: :pomppomp:
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I've used the GYA2s on track, like Beddie said, there's plenty of grip and they'll do 20 min sessions - but it took a lot of effort to find the right pressure to avoid the wobbly sidewall if too low and turning to grease if too high.
The SSs, the carcass is so stiff and that outer compound so sticky, you just lean on them harder and harder and they just deal with it. That's where the 10% is found. The trade off is a slightly harsher ride.
But, and this is the rub - not many people on here track their cars. The GYA2 is a superb tyre, day in day out you'd be hard pushed to notice this night and day people speak of.
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I've used the GYA2s on track, like Beddie said, there's plenty of grip and they'll do 20 min sessions - but it took a lot of effort to find the right pressure to avoid the wobbly sidewall if too low and turning to grease if too high.
The SSs, the carcass is so stiff and that outer compound so sticky, you just lean on them harder and harder and they just deal with it. That's where the 10% is found. The trade off is a slightly harsher ride.
But, and this is the rub - not many people on here track their cars. The GYA2 is a superb tyre, day in day out you'd be hard pushed to notice this night and day people speak of.
Are these Run Flats or did you delete them?
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Proper, I swapped the runflats on the old one and the M135i comes with SSs from the factory.
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A quick update, contrary to what Michelin said previously, they have no release date in November for 225/40/18y 92xl
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A quick update, contrary to what Michelin said previously, they have no release date in November for 225/40/18y 92xl
Youre joking??? Time to did out my Facebook thread then.... :signLOL:
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Are they supposed to be getting released at some point in our sizes or is it just speculation ?
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They have previously confirmed to myself and others that our size will go Into production the inky question is when...fingers crossed
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An update for you guys:
just got off the phone to Michelin - I was querying the recommended pressures for my PS3's.
Anyhow, I asked about the release date for the super sports (225/40/18 XL 92y) (as I had remembered this thread). The gent on the phone said they were being released "very shortly" as they were now listed on the UK price list.
He advised that if I was to place an order at ATS (who are owned by Michelin), The order would be fulfilled once the tyre was released for sale - from that, I assume he meant that ATS would have the latest pricing.
Hope this helps..
Rich
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Are these on general release here in the UK now?
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They were expected to be available from last week but michelin have been constantly changing their minds about release dates