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Title: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on October 20, 2013, 10:17:56 pm
Anyone driven one yet?

The stats and early drives of the 4` came out well and the 430D looks the engine to have with 8P S3 performance out the box and true TDI economy. Only 105 pound to tax too so I read - pretty much the all rounder on paper.

Decided I'll have one in about 8 years when they're under 20k on the used market.
Keen to hear what the 8speed auto is like with the 3.0 straight six diesel.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: xjay1337 on October 20, 2013, 10:24:26 pm
Take it from me that 240bhp in a TDI vs 240bhp in a petrol will result in the petrol saying bye bye to the clackety fuel of satan.
I love Diesels and I miss mine very very much.
However for driving pleasure you cannot beat a petrol.

If you want a more long distance cruiser or a workhorse to drive around the country collecting parts or attenting BIZNIZ meetings then absolutely a diesel has it's place and I'm sure this would be a fine diesel.

Still would have a 335d and a map myself.  :innocent:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rich83 on October 20, 2013, 10:33:29 pm
I presume that the 430d would the 6 cylinder diesel lump... if so then it will be far from clackety!
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: edd666999 on October 20, 2013, 11:18:17 pm
i feel that a rolling race from 30 (i.e actual real world driving) the diesel wouldn't be ashamed.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: xjay1337 on October 20, 2013, 11:45:14 pm
i feel that a rolling race from 30 (i.e actual real world driving) the diesel wouldn't be ashamed.

I had 221bhp on a harsh dyno (I reckon it was more like 230 in the real world) and 365lb ft torque

Raced my mates 1.8t Stage 1 and 3/4  Mk4 (Apparently 232bhp) and left me standing. This was rolling from 60.
TDIs make their power 4500 times per minute when a petrol makes the same power 6500 times per minute. Stands to reason really.

Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Deako on October 21, 2013, 06:14:14 am
Take it from me that 240bhp in a TDI vs 240bhp in a petrol will result in the petrol saying bye bye to the clackety fuel of satan.
I love Diesels and I miss mine very very much.
However for driving pleasure you cannot beat a petrol.

If you want a more long distance cruiser or a workhorse to drive around the country collecting parts or attenting BIZNIZ meetings then absolutely a diesel has it's place and I'm sure this would be a fine diesel.

Still would have a 335d and a map myself.  :innocent:

His current car is a diesel.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Tamiyoman on October 23, 2013, 10:38:59 am
I have a 330D (59 Plate 241bhp) and the stats show its 0-60 time is quicker than a std Edition 30 by 0.4secs  :wink: it also gives me 40mpg with mixed driving and 48mpg on motorway trips, slightly better than the 26mpg and 30mpg my Ed30 managed (Altho nowhere near as fun), plan on a remap soon, looking forward to 320+bhp again  :happy2:

The new 335D X Drive, hits 60 in 4.9s it's a true all rounder in every sense.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: SkyJawa on October 24, 2013, 12:32:08 pm
I've got a 330d and as above, its rapid, 40-42mpg on a run (mines the older 231bhp but remapped).

6cyl BMW diesels sound alright, even my mate who is a true petrol-only-head said it made a surprising nice noise when pressing on!
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: SkyJawa on October 24, 2013, 12:32:50 pm
Oh, and just to add, the new 4 series is a lovely looker (mines a coupe at the mo)
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: xjay1337 on October 24, 2013, 12:54:52 pm
I have a 330D (59 Plate 241bhp) and the stats show its 0-60 time is quicker than a std Edition 30 by 0.4secs  :wink: it also gives me 40mpg with mixed driving and 48mpg on motorway trips, slightly better than the 26mpg and 30mpg my Ed30 managed (Altho nowhere near as fun), plan on a remap soon, looking forward to 320+bhp again  :happy2:

The new 335D X Drive, hits 60 in 4.9s it's a true all rounder in every sense.

Mainly the rear wheel drive helping there :happy2:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: GTI5 on October 24, 2013, 02:20:28 pm
I have a 330D (59 Plate 241bhp) and the stats show its 0-60 time is quicker than a std Edition 30 by 0.4secs  :wink: it also gives me 40mpg with mixed driving and 48mpg on motorway trips, slightly better than the 26mpg and 30mpg my Ed30 managed (Altho nowhere near as fun), plan on a remap soon, looking forward to 320+bhp again  :happy2:

The new 335D X Drive, hits 60 in 4.9s it's a true all rounder in every sense.

320 + BHP from a remap sounds very optimistic....but then again it does depend whose rollers you go on.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Tamiyoman on October 24, 2013, 04:28:18 pm
I have a 330D (59 Plate 241bhp) and the stats show its 0-60 time is quicker than a std Edition 30 by 0.4secs  :wink: it also gives me 40mpg with mixed driving and 48mpg on motorway trips, slightly better than the 26mpg and 30mpg my Ed30 managed (Altho nowhere near as fun), plan on a remap soon, looking forward to 320+bhp again  :happy2:

The new 335D X Drive, hits 60 in 4.9s it's a true all rounder in every sense, Std power is 308bhp  :wink: :wink:

320 + BHP from a remap sounds very optimistic....but then again it does depend whose rollers you go on.

Its roughly a 30% increase in power, different tuners say different outputs, some say 300bhp and some say 335bhp, I took an average  :happy2:

Remap torque is somewhere between 425-450lb/ft which is impressive.

ED30 goes from 227bhp to 295-305bhp on just a remap which is 30% increase in power
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on December 01, 2013, 01:04:19 pm
Take it from me that 240bhp in a TDI vs 240bhp in a petrol will result in the petrol saying bye bye to the clackety fuel of satan.
I love Diesels and I miss mine very very much.
However for driving pleasure you cannot beat a petrol.

If you want a more long distance cruiser or a workhorse to drive around the country collecting parts or attenting BIZNIZ meetings then absolutely a diesel has it's place and I'm sure this would be a fine diesel.

Still would have a 335d and a map myself.  :innocent:

His current car is a diesel.

Thanks Luke, I think the original point of discussion was lost pretty quickly  :grin: :grin:  :grin:


I still haven't seen a 430D anywhere. Around Instagram, on the roads, or on forums...
What I can't understand is why no-one appears to have bought it when it's by the far the most appealing to own on paper certainly in this country, possibly in Europe too?

The Yanks are crawling all over the 435i.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: scooba on December 06, 2013, 11:37:57 pm
I have had my 430d for two weeks it is only available with auto 8 speed box, 258bhp and 600nm torque, Only covered 150 miles but the power delivery is lovely the 8sp box is super smooth ,I speced it quite high m suspension is a nice option and when going through the modes the large display shows nice colourful graphics of the car and the settings .

When the official BMW PPK kit arrives I am getting it fitted it is a new larger intercooler and ECU direct from the factory plug and play  no coding it is specced to the car I think its circa 1000gbp but unavailable on the 4 at present, it gives another 25bhp and 40-50 nm torque on the latest 330 F30 same engine so I assume it will deliver the same benefits

I have replaced a 325d coupe with the 430 it is a inch longer and  two inch wider at the rear I also think it rides a inch lower. after two weeks I am impressed a massive move forward from the E92 
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Joeystoney on December 07, 2013, 12:52:37 am
No but I've been keeping an eye on them, love the shape
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on December 07, 2013, 10:30:38 am
The new 335 X is being punted around the local police authorities and its getting fantastic reviews....

My mate JamS3 over on VAGOC is a traffic copper and being bored of drinking loads of coffee and eating donuts took it to a meet whilst he was on duty and stuck it on the dyno.....anyway it ended up on facebook and BMW saw their arse and wanted it back.....

Reason why he did it was that it felt SO much faster than the figures suggested and wanted to be sure that they hadn't tweaked it for "evaluation" purposes which has been known to happen before apparently...

Anyway it wasn't and made stock numbers....its getting a big following as a great drivers car and bloody quick and 45mpg

It's got me thinking....
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: garrardrj on December 07, 2013, 11:23:20 am
335X is not likely to be big enough to be a great attraction to the Police  :innocent:
Every Police Commissioner (Not Police authorities anymore) will take any car given to them by manufacturers to use as much as possible to save their fleets were and tear  :happy2:

I like the look of the 430d too
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on December 07, 2013, 11:49:07 am
I have had my 430d for two weeks it is only available with auto 8 speed box, 258bhp and 600nm torque, Only covered 150 miles but the power delivery is lovely the 8sp box is super smooth ,I speced it quite high m suspension is a nice option and when going through the modes the large display shows nice colourful graphics of the car and the settings .

When the official BMW PPK kit arrives I am getting it fitted it is a new larger intercooler and ECU direct from the factory plug and play  no coding it is specced to the car I think its circa 1000gbp but unavailable on the 4 at present, it gives another 25bhp and 40-50 nm torque on the latest 330 F30 same engine so I assume it will deliver the same benefits

I have replaced a 325d coupe with the 430 it is a inch longer and  two inch wider at the rear I also think it rides a inch lower. after two weeks I am impressed a massive move forward from the E92 

Finally, a 430D owner!  :drinking:
I'm pleased you've having a good time with it Scooba, the PP sounds a worthy addition.

I've heard the 8speed is exactly as you've described, smooth and strong. I was beginning to think no-one had bought one as I see F10 330D's around all the time but the 4 is still quite a spot for now... I've seen more F-Type's in fact and I'm fairly well traveled by the week  :scared:

Will you look at a tuners map of some sort to go stage 1 or 1+ etc in future?
I guess it won't be long before DMS and those kind of tuners are offering further tuning and maps.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: xjay1337 on December 08, 2013, 01:36:36 am
See I do like the new range of BMW as an engineering piece, as a "drivers car" but they aren't half a bit dull these days, or am I alone in thinking that?

After all I drive a 5 door golf  :driver:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Oli on December 08, 2013, 07:46:40 pm
Still a diseasal though.......
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: SkyJawa on December 08, 2013, 11:48:43 pm
Still a diseasal though.......

What a stupid post. :rolleye:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: shreddedmeat on December 08, 2013, 11:55:49 pm
See I do like the new range of BMW as an engineering piece, as a "drivers car" but they aren't half a bit dull these days, or am I alone in thinking that?


I'm with you. AWD BMW saloons, what is the world coming to :scared:

The missus' dad has a boggo company 320d with the 8 speed, its bloody good mind.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Fozzy on December 09, 2013, 07:29:47 am
At our dealership the 420d seems very popular. As yet no one had bought a 430 but have opted for the 435d! Having driven both, the 435d is the one for me still 40+mpg and 313bhp! It's abit of an animal but just doesn't pack that petrol head petrol noise!

Nothing quite like driving an m135i!! Epic car!! Keep telling the mrs this would be the next car!!
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: scooba on December 10, 2013, 11:41:46 pm
I was told the 35D 4 x felt heavy ,I bought /ordered mine before it was launched ,My guy has worked at the dealers for 25yrs and knows his way round the ordering process, I was the first around Sussex with a 430. The PPK kit gets it to 280+ bhp and 640+ nm torque trust me it feels fabulous and you won't like the next comment having owned a Golf R brand new  feels much more smooth and drivable with better gearbox and endless torque even more so when put in Sport + mode.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: scooba on December 10, 2013, 11:46:32 pm
The new 335 X is being punted around the local police authorities and its getting fantastic reviews....

My mate JamS3 over on VAGOC is a traffic copper and being bored of drinking loads of coffee and eating donuts took it to a meet whilst he was on duty and stuck it on the dyno.....anyway it ended up on facebook and BMW saw their arse and wanted it back.....

Reason why he did it was that it felt SO much faster than the figures suggested and wanted to be sure that they hadn't tweaked it for "evaluation" purposes which has been known to happen before apparently...

Anyway it wasn't and made stock numbers....its getting a big following as a great drivers car and bloody quick and 45mpg

It's got me thinking….



Hi Dave don't think about it buy one with either 30D or 35D  option    TBH I am getting  31.9 mpg but thats local journeys and haven't had it out on a run yet  done 200 miles so it is tight when it hits a 1000 miles I'm having the Performance ECU and bigger intercooler , being BMW it doesn't affect warranty and for around 1100 gbp plus fitting  and adding 25bhp and 40 nm is a conservative lift but worth while , I ordered the car with the M brake upgrade as I understand that is a pre req with the PPK kit.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: scooba on December 13, 2013, 06:12:59 am
I have had my 430d for two weeks it is only available with auto 8 speed box, 258bhp and 600nm torque, Only covered 150 miles but the power delivery is lovely the 8sp box is super smooth ,I speced it quite high m suspension is a nice option and when going through the modes the large display shows nice colourful graphics of the car and the settings .

When the official BMW PPK kit arrives I am getting it fitted it is a new larger intercooler and ECU direct from the factory plug and play  no coding it is specced to the car I think its circa 1000gbp but unavailable on the 4 at present, it gives another 25bhp and 40-50 nm torque on the latest 330 F30 same engine so I assume it will deliver the same benefits

I have replaced a 325d coupe with the 430 it is a inch longer and  two inch wider at the rear I also think it rides a inch lower. after two weeks I am impressed a massive move forward from the E92 

Finally, a 430D owner!  :drinking:
I'm pleased you've having a good time with it Scooba, the PP sounds a worthy addition.

I've heard the 8speed is exactly as you've described, smooth and strong. I was beginning to think no-one had bought one as I see F10 330D's around all the time but the 4 is still quite a spot for now... I've seen more F-Type's in fact and I'm fairly well traveled by the week  :scared:

Will you look at a tuners map of some sort to go stage 1 or 1+ etc in future?
I guess it won't be long before DMS and those kind of tuners are offering further tuning and maps.

Hi 

It will be the BMW kit, I am told they order it from the factory , a new ECU is sent coded with all your factory options and the new revised map installed a new slightly larger intercooler also is included at a cost off £1100 plus fitting  3 hrs I think.So circa £1500  it keeps the warranty intact with BMW and also I'm told insurance companies aren't interested as it a factory fit option ? TBC !

The advice was put a 1000 miles on it before fitting as well, That won't be a problem as I'm still waiting for the Performance grills that have been on order 6 weeks  seams anything for the 4 is very slow at present .
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on December 31, 2013, 11:43:43 am
Sounds good Scooba. Any pics?  :party:
I've genuinely not seen a 30d' in person on the 4 Series, they seem so rare thus far and the 428i and 435i is getting all the press attention.

One random question for you, I know I'd get my golf clubs in a 3 series coupe/4 series, but would you fit a mountain bike in the back, laid out flat?  :popcornsoda:

Cheers.
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on January 25, 2014, 07:20:43 pm
Has the economy leveled out a bit Scooba?

I'd love to see some recent pics & udpates  :drinking: :happy2:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Oli on January 25, 2014, 08:57:35 pm
Still a diseasal though.......

What a stupid post. :rolleye:

Not as much as your reply :P

Ive tried fast diesels and don't get on with them, both being 335d's (over a years ownership between the two).  Each to their own......
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: SkyJawa on January 25, 2014, 09:41:13 pm
Holy thread resurrection  :rolleye:

And nope it wasn't worth it either  :scared:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: Oli on January 27, 2014, 08:23:15 pm
Holy thread resurrection  :rolleye:

And nope it wasn't worth it either  :scared:

 :congrats: :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: BMW 430D
Post by: rdfcpete on February 02, 2014, 12:01:48 pm
Has the economy leveled out a bit Scooba?

I'd love to see some recent pics & udpates  :drinking: :happy2:

 :popcornsoda: :drinking: