Post by: chris-182 on February 20, 2014, 10:57:37 am
I'm new to the VAG scene and looking to get some lowering springs on my GTI.
What are peoples opinions on the Eibach sport lines compared to the H&R alternative. I'm not fussed on getting massive lows, just a better ride hight and to try and keep the comfort as close to OEM as possible.
Ideally I'd want around a 30mm drop
Cheers!
Post by: Marc-5-GTI on February 20, 2014, 11:11:49 am
Eibach go 20/25mm front/back
I have eibachs and I'm happy where they sit and how they ride
Post by: Karl_mac_ on February 20, 2014, 11:29:01 am
Post by: tomanni on February 22, 2014, 12:52:27 pm
Rides fine, only slightly harder than standard.
As far as I can see it's personal preference really.
Post by: Damian @ DPM on February 25, 2014, 01:51:52 pm
Damian @ DPM Performance
Post by: vRSAlex on February 25, 2014, 04:45:33 pm
Personally I prefer the stance and ride quality that the Eibach kit gives you over the H&Rs.
Damian @ DPM Performance
I'm the opposite. Find the Eibach drops the front more than the rear and gives it an odd look. The H&R is a nicer ride and is an even drop. Both are a well made spring.
Post by: scopes on February 25, 2014, 05:04:35 pm
Personally I prefer the stance and ride quality that the Eibach kit gives you over the H&Rs.
Damian @ DPM Performance
I'm the opposite. Find the Eibach drops the front more than the rear and gives it an odd look. The H&R is a nicer ride and is an even drop. Both are a well made spring.
Totally agree with Alex, defiantly a more even stance with the H&R's, slightly harder but great handling springs :happy2:
Post by: chris-182 on February 26, 2014, 12:49:05 pm
I think i'm going to get some H&Rs :) busy month as i will be getting a FMIC, GFB DV and a map also :)
Post by: bigeyd on February 26, 2014, 01:30:24 pm
Cheers guys,Try this for a price on the springs http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,75129.45.html
I think i'm going to get some H&Rs :) busy month as i will be getting a FMIC, GFB DV and a map also :)
Post by: chris-182 on February 26, 2014, 07:05:46 pm
Post by: GLIDN on February 26, 2014, 11:48:26 pm
Personally, the Eibach's was a much better drive, smoother and absorbed bumps better.
As alex has pointed out, it does tend to lower the front more than the rear thou.
with the H&R's, I found the springs to not really be as forgiving as the Eibach or OEM.
Also uneven surfaces are more noticeable with H&R's fitted.
Even lowering thou.
Either way you go. The horrible factory rear bounce from the OEM springs on the highway are gone.
Actually, I have driven a car with APEX springs. It was by far the closest for lowering and bump absorbing as per OEM.
So for a cheap springs the APEX work very well.
If I had to choose between your 2 options I would always pick the eibach's over the H&R's.
Post by: rich83 on February 27, 2014, 01:00:12 am
Post by: andyR43 on February 27, 2014, 05:14:36 am
Post by: GLIDN on February 27, 2014, 05:26:09 am
100% happy with my H&R springs. Just the right amount of drop to make it handle better but not be so low you have to pussyfoot around.... And the ride is almost as comfortable as stock :happy2:
There you have it Rich, same answer from all H&R owners.
Eibach honestly drives nicer than stock 100% of the time.
Post by: rich83 on February 27, 2014, 08:28:06 am
100% happy with my H&R springs. Just the right amount of drop to make it handle better but not be so low you have to pussyfoot around.... And the ride is almost as comfortable as stock :happy2:
There you have it Rich, same answer from all H&R owners.
Eibach honestly drives nicer than stock 100% of the time.
So softer? More compliant?
Post by: GLIDN on February 28, 2014, 12:48:39 am
100% happy with my H&R springs. Just the right amount of drop to make it handle better but not be so low you have to pussyfoot around.... And the ride is almost as comfortable as stock :happy2:
There you have it Rich, same answer from all H&R owners.
Eibach honestly drives nicer than stock 100% of the time.
So softer? More compliant?
It's hard to describe, but I guess more forgiving is the way I would answer it.
Eibach merely allows all coils in the springs to operate at the same time vs the H&R's starting at one coil and compresses to the next and the next etc.
Don't get me wrong, H&R's are still an improvement. Actually, any springs just about is an improvement over VW's factory rear bounciness of a car. :fighting:
Post by: andyR43 on February 28, 2014, 02:35:17 am
Eibach merely allows all coils in the springs to operate at the same time vs the H&R's starting at one coil and compresses to the next and the next etc.
:confused: :confused:
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 28, 2014, 06:52:05 am
Slightly firmer than stock but not at all uncomfortable, which is exactly how a 200+ BHP hot hatch should feel. Anything more compliant than stock springs wouldn't inspire as much confidence IMHO.
Post by: chris-182 on February 28, 2014, 08:14:59 am
Its going in to the bodyshop next week while im in New York for a few minor touch ups, then once it is out it is booked in for Springs, FMIC, DV+ and a remap. Its going to be like a new car by the end of March. Cant Wait!!
Post by: rich83 on February 28, 2014, 08:20:15 am
Eibach merely allows all coils in the springs to operate at the same time vs the H&R's starting at one coil and compresses to the next and the next etc.
:confused: :confused:
Yeah that's what I thought :confused:
Post by: JMP on March 01, 2014, 07:36:45 am
Post by: sambryant on April 13, 2014, 09:42:34 am
Post by: betty_swollox on April 13, 2014, 09:48:47 am
Post by: sambryant on April 13, 2014, 07:31:51 pm
Post by: chris-182 on April 13, 2014, 10:15:52 pm
Post by: kc888 on April 13, 2014, 10:49:43 pm
ill give my 2pence too when i get it back! :happy2:
Post by: chris-182 on April 15, 2014, 01:03:28 pm
The ride is just as good as oem if not better and the car feel much more stable in the twisties :)
I will get some photos added to my project thread at the weekend
Post by: robson4 on April 15, 2014, 08:26:10 pm
Post by: kc888 on April 15, 2014, 10:51:01 pm
handling wise, as above, just like OEM for ride... not had a chance to throw it anywhere yet as the winter tyres don't like it haha :grin:
Post by: chris-182 on April 16, 2014, 12:00:04 am
yeah probs down to being on your winters? mine are perfectly fine (on 18" monza 2s)
Post by: Big Red T on April 16, 2014, 12:07:06 am
Post by: robson4 on April 16, 2014, 08:32:00 am
Post by: chris-182 on April 16, 2014, 11:30:49 am
Post by: Wragg on April 16, 2014, 10:51:42 pm
Post by: robson4 on April 16, 2014, 11:06:54 pm
Post by: JaseGti on April 16, 2014, 11:15:52 pm
Confused.org
Post by: kc888 on April 16, 2014, 11:29:01 pm
Before:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2872/13903744813_d97dd1025f_c.jpg)
After on winters:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5123/13903450215_0d6a3f38ae_c.jpg)
After on 18" Pescaras:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/13903466775_9478802cdc_c.jpg)
Sits totally different on the 18s, I'm well happy now it sits just right and rides perfect :happy2: :happy2:
Definitely recommend the H&Rs
Post by: JMP on April 17, 2014, 06:28:14 am
Post by: JaseGti on April 17, 2014, 10:42:32 pm
Do you get any problems with speed humps?
Post by: Broomy on April 17, 2014, 11:19:24 pm
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Post by: kc888 on April 18, 2014, 10:53:19 am
Your car looks awesome. I wish I had black one aswell!
cheers! :happy2:
That does look pretty cool
Do you get any problems with speed humps?
ta! no problems with speed bumps! only minor scrape is coming out of our local petrol station where its a stupid angled slope joining another stupid angled sloped road!
Post by: Shoy1980 on April 18, 2014, 12:04:56 pm
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Post by: neilc on April 29, 2014, 02:20:46 pm
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Post by: Spankiee on May 02, 2014, 08:36:33 pm
I Phoned AKS tuning and got a really go price and fast delivery
Post by: kahunajb on May 02, 2014, 08:49:46 pm
Post by: edition30jmr on June 20, 2014, 12:05:04 pm
And I'm getting some for my dads ed35 too haha! Any problems etc?
Thanks
Jay
Post by: Spankiee on June 20, 2014, 12:22:43 pm
Post by: Spankiee on June 20, 2014, 12:37:00 pm
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Post by: edition30jmr on June 20, 2014, 01:05:48 pm
Post by: Spankiee on June 20, 2014, 01:19:41 pm
£170 I think they came too. Best I could find anyway
Post by: Spankiee on June 20, 2014, 01:21:49 pm
Just say your a member on here.
Post by: edition30jmr on June 21, 2014, 06:14:11 pm
Cheers guys!
Post by: Spankiee on June 21, 2014, 08:39:23 pm
Post by: edition30jmr on June 21, 2014, 11:35:34 pm
Post by: Spankiee on June 22, 2014, 06:58:14 pm
Post by: edition30jmr on June 23, 2014, 10:24:37 am
Thanks
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Post by: anderson9 on July 02, 2014, 05:09:57 pm
Post by: Spankiee on July 02, 2014, 05:41:35 pm
Post by: anderson9 on July 02, 2014, 06:02:10 pm
Most people just bang em on. Unless the shock is leaking or something.
Okay thanks mate :happy2:
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 02, 2014, 07:19:55 pm
Do I need to replace the dampers or is it okay just put the H&R springs on ?
Straight onto the original dampers is fine, but it will wear them out quicker.
Post by: anderson9 on July 02, 2014, 08:23:19 pm
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 02, 2014, 08:36:55 pm
How much are new dampers ?
Try here: http://www.eurocarparts.com
Post by: anderson9 on July 02, 2014, 10:23:01 pm
Post by: MC71 on July 02, 2014, 10:26:35 pm
Post by: rich83 on July 03, 2014, 10:16:28 am
Do I need to replace the dampers or is it okay just put the H&R springs on ?
Straight onto the original dampers is fine, but it will wear them out quicker.
My dampers are buggered... Bouncy bouncy bouncy. :sick:
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 03, 2014, 12:05:49 pm
Do I need to replace the dampers or is it okay just put the H&R springs on ?
Straight onto the original dampers is fine, but it will wear them out quicker.
My dampers are buggered... Bouncy bouncy bouncy. :sick:
I've just put H&Rs onto 68k mile dampers. Expecting to replace them by next year :sad1:
Post by: Sprati31 on July 03, 2014, 01:47:23 pm
Post by: anderson9 on July 03, 2014, 03:16:09 pm
Post by: Spankiee on July 03, 2014, 03:28:09 pm
Post by: betty_swollox on July 03, 2014, 04:56:53 pm
Kerbs are fine just go easy. I still fly over speedbumps.
Feel sorry for your car
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 03, 2014, 05:23:46 pm
Pill I definitely not be able to get up curbs on 30mm H&R ? As I need to bump up a curb to get into the drive :drool:
You should get the council to lower it :happy2:
Post by: Spankiee on July 04, 2014, 03:23:06 pm
Kerbs are fine just go easy. I still fly over speedbumps.
Feel sorry for your car
Ha ha I don't know why the wheels won't fall off. Clears them easily
Post by: adminkatana on July 05, 2014, 11:58:31 am
Do I need to replace the dampers or is it okay just put the H&R springs on ?
Straight onto the original dampers is fine, but it will wear them out quicker.
My dampers are buggered... Bouncy bouncy bouncy. :sick:
I've just put H&Rs onto 68k mile dampers. Expecting to replace them by next year :sad1:
I've just had VW put VW Racing lowering springs onto 74k dampers, doesn't feel bouncy but quite squeaky at times. Is this normal?
Post by: demon110178 on July 08, 2014, 08:26:11 pm
Post by: marticroft on February 19, 2015, 10:40:13 pm
Love the stance and your motor Neil looking at your suspension set up and just wanted to see how your doing with daily driving, what's the ride quality like as I wanted the comfort to pretty similar to original but understand that it will be firmer? Which Eibach sportline coils did you go for as there are a couple of drops either 20mm front and back or 45mm front / 30mm back.
Any advice would be great
Marticroft :happy2:
Post by: rich83 on February 19, 2015, 11:21:29 pm
Post by: Deako on February 20, 2015, 10:02:22 am
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 20, 2015, 10:04:06 am
I have H&Rs on my Rocco and like the way it drives. Not any harder than standard springs really.
I didn't like the H&Rs on my Rocco. The DCC only really worked in sport afterwards. Comfort setting just didn't know what to do with itself :laugh:
Post by: jedi-knight83 on February 20, 2015, 10:13:24 am
100% happy with my H&R springs. Just the right amount of drop to make it handle better but not be so low you have to pussyfoot around.... And the ride is almost as comfortable as stock :happy2:
Tbh I'm not 100% sold on the H&R springs. Wouldn't buy them again.
@rich83 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=709) What made you change your mind after 12 months?
I've have my H&R on for a few years now.. apart from them being about 5-10mm lower now than when first fitted I love them. Just the right about of stiffness / vs comfort for my taste.
I'm currently looking at changing my 85k old OEM dampers for Bilstein B8's and I'm hoping that doesn't firm it up too much more.
Post by: rich83 on February 20, 2015, 10:18:45 am
Post by: jedi-knight83 on February 20, 2015, 10:23:43 am
Because the rears are rusting already. Any ideas on what H&R warranty is?
just a bit of surface rust is surely normal on springs? I checked mine the other day while cleaning my brakes and arches and they had a couple of spots on them.
Not sure on the warranty but worth an email to them or whatever supplier you used surely to complain anyway if your not happy.
Do you think yours have "sagged" / dropped more since you've had them?
Post by: dom069 on February 20, 2015, 06:36:15 pm
I'll hopefully be swapping them for BC Coilovers sometime this year.
Post by: Deako on February 21, 2015, 01:00:16 am
I have H&Rs on my Rocco and like the way it drives. Not any harder than standard springs really.
I didn't like the H&Rs on my Rocco. The DCC only really worked in sport afterwards. Comfort setting just didn't know what to do with itself :laugh:
No DCC on the facelift as standard any more. :happy2:
Post by: marticroft on February 27, 2015, 07:17:59 am
Just fitted Bilstein B4 Sport Dampers and Eibach Sportsline springs and very very happy with the result , car looks great and drives brilliantly. Although as mentioned somewhere earlier the rear is slightly higher.What Eibach spring set did you get as looking for the same drop? Looks the dogs gonads, how are the finding the drop to live with? Has the suspension dropped any further since you dropped her.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fm601%2Fneilstt%2FP1020293_zps8c0a76ff.jpg&hash=0457cab02cc64d81560c96ee7aa033e9f4f66c5c)
Cheers
Marticroft
Post by: Bigjim160 on March 14, 2015, 03:43:37 pm
The ride is still comfortable, the height has dropped by around 30mm and the stiffness has improved! Would recommend.
Post by: StuF on March 20, 2015, 02:54:39 pm
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Post by: Hevoshullu on April 22, 2015, 06:48:02 am
I am not totally convinced with the Eibach springs however as they don't give the stance I wanted to and I feel they are causing a little bit of flightyness at the rear end that my car didn't have with the stock setup. Of course I can't say whether it is the springs or shocks that is causing this as I changed them at the same time. Nonetheless, I already have acquired a set of H&R springs and will soon be swapping my Sportlines for the H&R's so I can then report how the lowering and handling is between the springs with the same Bilstein shock!
Here's a pic of my car how it stands with the Sportlines:
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Post by: marticroft on April 22, 2015, 07:21:07 am
Marticroft
Post by: tlnds on July 14, 2015, 03:09:51 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on July 14, 2015, 05:13:24 pm
Post by: marticroft on July 14, 2015, 08:43:56 pm
sorry for the delayed reponse... Ended up going for the sportlines and replacing the front shocks for Bilstein the ride is firm but forgiving and clears all speed bumps as I wanted. The only problem which is doing my nut in is the since changing the springs a spring squeak has developed and not sure what to do next. And advice would be greatly appreciated guys.
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Post by: marticroft on July 14, 2015, 08:48:16 pm
Your stance looks really good from the photo but I know what you mean with the rear being a bit higher. How's the H&R's looking?
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Post by: Hevoshullu on July 15, 2015, 12:09:20 pm
Thanks, actually I have booked a time to my local garage to swap the Sportlines to the H&R's for next tuesday so we will know soon! : ) I can then give an opinion how they compare in terms of handling and comfort as well, as nothing else in my car will change.
How is your stance on the Sportlines? Is it level or does the rear also sit a bit higher? As far as I remember, mine used to be spot on right after the install but then the front settled down a little so in the end the rear was left a bit too high.
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Post by: Shoduchi on July 21, 2015, 05:24:21 pm
I'm in the same process, my mechanic just fitted the H&R springs and new Koni Sport dampers. I had Sportlines fitted before.
Post by: rich83 on July 21, 2015, 05:28:05 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on July 21, 2015, 05:30:56 pm
Yeah they do settle.... Cant say that I am that impressed with the H&R springs to be honest. The rear ones IMO are not very well designed.Because of the rust or for another reason? :confused:
Post by: rich83 on July 21, 2015, 06:25:46 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on July 21, 2015, 06:30:51 pm
Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.Do they squeak over bumps?
Post by: Hevoshullu on July 21, 2015, 08:32:39 pm
Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.Do they squeak over bumps?
I noticed the same thing. I wouldn't say it's half the coils that are sitting on each other on mine, but a couple at least are even when the car is unloaded. I guess it's not a design fault as a suspension doesn't just compress but also works in the other direction (ie. droop). Also, they don't squeak on mine.
I have my fingers crossed that the my H&R's will settle at least 10mm. :happy2:
Post by: rich83 on July 21, 2015, 10:23:26 pm
Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.Do they squeak over bumps?
No
Post by: Hevoshullu on July 23, 2015, 05:03:19 pm
I have to say I am impressed how the H&R's handle with Bilstein B8 dampers and Asymmetric 2 tyres. The car now has a lovely suppleness to it (which also means more grip on slightly bumpy roads that we have here in Finland) and the whole chassis/tyre combination has this progressive nature to it when you push the car. I wouldn't say my car lost any feel when switching from Sportlines to H&R's but what I don't like is that after the first 100 miles the H&R's are still sitting noticably higher than my previous Sporlines.. I will measure the exact distance from top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel after a week or so. On the Sportlines it used to be 335mm front and rear (for some reason the rear still looked like it sat higher with those). I have a feeling on the H&R's it is now a whole 10mm higher at least which is really disappointing because that makes a world of difference to how aggressive the car looks.
All in all very happy with how my car feels with H&R springs, B8 dampers and Asymmetric 2 tyres. Still can't wait to get some Michelin PSS under my GTI. Must also add that damn she handles beautifully for an old bird that she is at 8 year's age. : )
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Post by: flashp on August 15, 2015, 09:42:57 am
Fitted sportlines on new oem shocks, the ride is really harsh! Do you think they will bed in?
I don't think they will. They're mismatched and won't change. Well actually they might...when the stiffer shorter spring has punished the damper into an early grave.
My thoughts are buy this equipment as matched sets, whichever you buy. For example, B12 kit has matched spring and damper rates and the valving is engineered to match the combination. They spent a lot money and resource getting it right, I couldn't do better by trawling the forums touting for opinions on combinations.
Same goes for ARB's as well.
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Post by: Dave(tm) on August 16, 2015, 11:31:13 pm
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Post by: Shoduchi on August 17, 2015, 07:33:32 pm
That increases fuel consumption. :signLOL:Watching this thread with interest...I think I want some Eibachs...no, some H&Rs...Oh I don't know...
Dave
Lower the drivers seat... Load the car with a few people and there's your lowered Ride... Sorted :wink:
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Post by: monte on August 26, 2015, 03:59:50 am
They performed great on the road and coped pretty well on track too.
As for the look? The drop was great and I never had any issues with rubbing on the arches. (As long as you do the arch screw delete)
Anyway here are a few pics showing the different wheels I had. All these were with the H&R lowering springs. :wink:
Standard Pescara… 18x7.5J ET51 with 225/40/R18 tyres
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FT14.jpg&hash=ff6153cf1e4869303447bb925265bd9d2e8566c8)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FT0G_0723_HR-1-1.jpg&hash=c5f6aaef19d50c03edd0f499af52d8ce8df3c303)
Same as above but Powder coated Satin Black… 18x7.5J ET51 with 225/40/R18 tyres
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FP1060675.jpg&hash=c3fc5957356d9f11621e7afab36ea8f349cfdd53)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FP1060683.jpg&hash=37c9ffcbdb34a4695ed0b52066a042700361b65f)
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MTM Bimoto Reps… 18x8.5J ET45 with 225/40/R18 tyres
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FP1060608.jpg&hash=bd38ab9e44fc7afd78a29108999813db98b81386)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2FP1060621.jpg&hash=f5e624afec810cedd180a0b6764734c63b146423)
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19"Monza's… 19x8J ET45 with 225/35/R19 tyres
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19"OZ Ultralegerra's… 19x8J ET45 with 225/35/R19 tyres
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19" BBS CKs 19x8J ET44
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Post by: JUNNYAK47 on August 26, 2015, 12:07:55 pm
Post by: white91 on August 26, 2015, 07:33:25 pm
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Post by: Shoduchi on August 26, 2015, 07:37:53 pm
Those 19 monzas look amazing
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All of them look amazing, to be fair. Just the MTM Bimoto would look better if they were genuine and 19''. :drool:
Post by: white91 on August 26, 2015, 07:39:16 pm
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Post by: monte on August 27, 2015, 12:33:06 am
Those 19 monzas look amazing
All of them look amazing, to be fair. Just the MTM Bimoto would look better if they were genuine and 19''. :drool:
I just think the Monzas really suit golfs
Yeah the 19" Monzas were really special wheels. Rare Italian made ones that were better quality than the 18" Ronal/BBS ones from VW.
19" Bimotos are awesome yeah...tbh the 18" versions I had were ok but I soon lost all interest for 18's
Got to be 19" wheels on a mk5 :wink:
I only use 18" wheels on the track and they are anthracite TD PR1.2s :driver:
Post by: Alex.J on September 02, 2015, 10:08:11 pm
Post by: Jarre on September 06, 2015, 01:13:02 am
Got my H&R springs at the ready!
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Post by: Spankiee on September 09, 2015, 05:58:53 pm
had my H&R springs done about well over a year ago on standard springs and they are still doing the job nicely.
Post by: StuF on September 09, 2015, 08:43:19 pm
are people still worried these are going to rub??? :confused:
had my H&R springs done about well over a year ago on standard springs and they are still doing the job nicely.
Same as my Eibach SportLines fitted to standard shocks (which have done 172,000miles) - nice compliant ride!
Even the wife is happy which is a win for me! :happy2:
Post by: AJG09 on September 09, 2015, 08:59:24 pm
Cheers
Post by: Jarre on September 10, 2015, 11:29:00 pm
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Post by: monte on September 10, 2015, 11:31:59 pm
I paid around £145 and got them delivered from Germany. Took 3 days
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Yeah I got mine on ebay.de too (German eBay)
Mine were £135 delivered, and took 3days too. :happy2:
I did buy mine in 2009/2010 though so price may have changed.
Post by: Jarre on September 11, 2015, 07:10:11 am
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Post by: Stooey on September 30, 2015, 08:13:57 pm
Post by: AJP on September 30, 2015, 08:27:01 pm
Do h&r do different springs for dsg and manual cars as the dsg had a heavier front end?Yes.
Post by: Stooey on September 30, 2015, 08:31:08 pm
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/H-R-LOWERING-SPORTS-SPRINGS-Golf-Mk5-Hatchback-2-0-GTI-2004-2011-30m-H-R-GERMANY-/191692425239?nav=SEARCH
Post by: AJP on September 30, 2015, 08:40:23 pm
Post by: Stooey on September 30, 2015, 08:43:33 pm
Judging by the part number - 29176 - they're manual.
That's great thanks
Post by: menios80 on September 30, 2015, 08:46:15 pm
Can you tell me if these are dsg ir manual springs?I don't think it's matter if is Dsg or not.only if is awd or fwd.dsg weights 40kg more is not that much of difference.I know cause when i did my awd swap the eibach spings my car has as fwd dsg lowered another 2cm especialy in the rear.if you look in H&R site you will find it out
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/H-R-LOWERING-SPORTS-SPRINGS-Golf-Mk5-Hatchback-2-0-GTI-2004-2011-30m-H-R-GERMANY-/191692425239?nav=SEARCH
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Post by: Shoduchi on September 30, 2015, 09:04:05 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on September 30, 2015, 09:14:28 pm
Post by: menios80 on September 30, 2015, 09:36:30 pm
Eibach has different part numbers for DSG and Manual gearboxes. H&R only has one part number for GTI. :wink:+1 for H&R by me!!!
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Post by: Msportman on October 03, 2015, 11:58:05 pm
I've had two sets of KW Clubsports at £2k a pop on two of my sat ED30's and for value the H&R are pretty good value......I expect even stiffer on harder dampers such as Bilstein
Post by: Stooey on October 04, 2015, 11:35:09 am
Post by: Shoduchi on October 04, 2015, 12:14:18 pm
Iv bought a set of the h&r springs now and as my shocks e 97k old I'm going to pair them up with a new set of bilstein b4 dampers, same as the stock dampers just suited for lowered cars, hopefully be an ok setup for the moneyCheck your facts straight. Bilstein B4 aren't sport dampers, they're just normal dampers. B6 are sport dampers for normal springs. B8 are what you should have brought since they're for lowering springs. So, don't be surprised if your dampers don't last what you expected them to. :happy2:
Post by: Stooey on October 04, 2015, 12:28:36 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on October 04, 2015, 12:37:24 pm
Post by: Stooey on October 04, 2015, 01:48:02 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on October 04, 2015, 04:05:20 pm
Cant afford a b8 setup, so better just getting oem dampers?In that case, I guess the OEM are better suited. They will be set for a sport setup while the B4 are more comfortable and not for sport springs.
Post by: Stooey on October 07, 2015, 06:08:08 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on October 07, 2015, 06:36:11 pm
Bugger it, endded up coughing up the extra cash for the b8's :party:In the long run it was the wiser decision to make. Everyone here praises them. :happy2:
Post by: Deako on October 08, 2015, 08:50:40 am
Post by: JustSho on October 08, 2015, 10:52:51 am
It's a 1.6 FSI
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Post by: Shoduchi on October 08, 2015, 11:30:08 am
My car sits quite unevenly on all 4 and I'm not sure if eibachs would sort that out as they lower the front more?? If I do get them, which shocks do I get as I don't want a very firm ride?You might have the dampers not evenly "dead". These springs "kill" OEM dampers much more rapidly. If you still have your OEM dampers from your 1.6 FSI, your dampers aren't as prepared for the springs as the GTI dampers are (-20 mm drop from normal suspension).
It's a 1.6 FSI
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For these springs you need Bilstein B8, Koni Sport, or other with similar specs.
Konis are sold with H&R springs as suspension kits while Bilsteins are sold with Eibach springs.
Konis: http://www.koni.uk.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=253&Itemid=284 (http://www.koni.uk.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=253&Itemid=284)
Bilsteins: http://www.bilstein.de/en-uk/products/sport-and-threaded-ride-high-adjustable-kits/bilstein-b12-sportline/ (http://www.bilstein.de/en-uk/products/sport-and-threaded-ride-high-adjustable-kits/bilstein-b12-sportline/)
Post by: JustSho on October 08, 2015, 12:47:22 pm
Do the sportlines drop a gti by 50mm? If that's the case then I'd have to go for the pro kit wouldn't I?
Appreciate the help mate
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Post by: Shoduchi on October 08, 2015, 01:15:58 pm
@shoduchi I've got standard springs and shocks atm and they need to be changed soon so B8s and sportlines it might be!A GTI is already lowered from factory 20 mm, Eibach Sportlines drop another 25-30 mm. It's noticeable that the rear is not as lowered as the front. You can see on my Ed. 30 pictures of Sportlines with OEM dampers. I've recently fitted Koni Sport with H&R Sport springs and shared a few pictures with them still new, so they'll drop at least 5-10 mm more in the future.
Do the sportlines drop a gti by 50mm? If that's the case then I'd have to go for the pro kit wouldn't I?
Appreciate the help mate
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Post by: Stooey on October 08, 2015, 05:26:18 pm
Hope you got the B8s from the same seller as me. I save about £300.
Carparts-baust?? Bybfar the cheapest iv ever seen them
Post by: Deako on October 08, 2015, 07:24:00 pm
Hope you got the B8s from the same seller as me. I save about £300.
Carparts-baust?? Bybfar the cheapest iv ever seen them
Yep. That's them. :happy2:
Post by: Stooey on October 08, 2015, 08:24:05 pm
Hope you got the B8s from the same seller as me. I save about £300.
Carparts-baust?? Bybfar the cheapest iv ever seen them
Yep. That's them. :happy2:
Just noticed I was the link u put in the wanted secition that I found them haha, cheers :drinking:
Post by: Mitch H on January 09, 2016, 10:43:27 pm
Also best dampers to match up to the h and r springs? Seen the b8s mentioned but arnt they abit pricey?
Post by: Shoduchi on January 09, 2016, 11:54:42 pm
I've read somewhere h and r do a 30mm and 50mm Spring is this true?H&R does that for normal Golfs, you only have the -30 mm for the GTI because GTI are already -20 mm from factory. :happy2:
Also best dampers to match up to the h and r springs? Seen the b8s mentioned but arnt they abit pricey?
The normal -30 mm H&R springs are black and equivalent to Eibach Pro-Kits. The normal -50 mm springs are red. Ours are blue and the same as the red. :smiley:
In the USA you have different options.
Post by: Mitch H on January 10, 2016, 12:19:12 am
I've read somewhere h and r do a 30mm and 50mm Spring is this true?H&R does that for normal Golfs, you only have the -30 mm for the GTI because GTI are already -20 mm from factory. :happy2:
Also best dampers to match up to the h and r springs? Seen the b8s mentioned but arnt they abit pricey?
The normal -30 mm H&R springs are black and equivalent to Eibach Pro-Kits. The normal -50 mm springs are red. Ours are blue and the same as the red. :smiley:
In the USA you have different options.
I'm still confused mate haha
What are my h and r options for a gti then? Just 30mm
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2016, 12:20:13 am
Post by: Shoduchi on January 10, 2016, 12:36:37 am
I think H&R do do a 30mm and a lower one... I think they are called "super sport"That's in the USA. In Europe there's only one option in the catalogue. :smiley:
Post by: rich83 on January 10, 2016, 12:40:10 am
Post by: Shoduchi on January 10, 2016, 09:53:35 am
H&R are german so it would stand to reason that you could get them.Yeah, you can. At least who supplied my sway bars said he could get stuff sold in the USA. You can ask AKS Tuning, for example.
Post by: Msportman on January 15, 2016, 12:25:15 am
I've got H&R 30mm springs on my ED30 with OE shocks....a very nice combo for road use.
I' m toying at doing the shocks for some more control on damping when I take her on track occasionally next year.
Are the Koni Sport dampers as comfy as the Bilstein B8 with these springs?
I had KW Clubsports on two previous ED30's and they were brilliant and very comfy and you could really wind them up when needed....,.costly though.
The B8 dampers are £600 on their own.
Any pointers for best deals on both makes?
Or do I bite the bullet with KW's again ?
Post by: Shoduchi on January 15, 2016, 12:42:46 am
If you know the KW Clubsports are what you really like and you can't get any GTI with the other suspension options to try out, I'd go for the KW.
My Koni Sports cost 464,40 €, much cheaper that that price you mentioned for the Bilstein B8. I think you can get the B8 from Germany cheaper than £ 600. Around 500-550 €, maybe.