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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: zubi on April 09, 2014, 01:12:26 pm
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Hi Guys,
My dad and I are in the market for a new van but need some reviews, what i want to know is what the vans are to live with day to day and what you'd recommend. We're looking to probs go new-ish 6-12months old and below are the few that we've been to see and have on our shortlist.
VW Transporter T30 LWB Highline
Merc 113 Vito LWB
Vaxhall Vivaro LWB
would love to hear what you guys use, how many miles you've done and what they are to live with day to day or if you can recommend any other van.
thanks :)
Zubi
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Dad has the Citroen dispatch (L2H1 1200), hes very happy. It did win van of the year i think too?
Hes a builder and has been for 35 years, hes been through a good few vans. He didn't rate Merc vito (previous model)
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New Ford Transit :happy2:
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Transit every time. I drive a swb medium roof every day and it's as comfortable as the GTI. Only done 20ish k so far but has never missed a beat. Comes with aux in as standard too which you're unlikely to get on a vw equiv.
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VW Transporter T30. :happy2:
Buying a Vauxhall Vivaro will result in you and your main dealer becoming very, very well acquainted!!
New Ford Transits have a stupidly high top gear. So much so that if you have any extra weight in the van you will have to change down a gear to go up any kind of incline, even at motorway+ speeds. A pain in the A*** if you want to use cruise control.
Reading other peoples reviews may help you decide :-
http://www.reviewcentre.com/products255.html
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Thanks for the comments - that last website is very useful :)
My main issues is im just finding it hard to justify the £20k price tag on the T30s
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VW Transporter T30. :happy2:
Buying a Vauxhall Vivaro will result in you and your main dealer becoming very, very well acquainted!!
New Ford Transits have a stupidly high top gear. So much so that if you have any extra weight in the van you will have to change down a gear to go up any kind of incline, even at motorway+ speeds. A pain in the A*** if you want to use cruise control.
Reading other peoples reviews may help you decide :-
http://www.reviewcentre.com/products255.html
I have a T28 on a 62 plate..the new Transit is streets ahead,especially the New Sport Transit.
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At work we have a batch of 60 plate t5's think the 130's and to be fair there not great, the engine lacks torque and you can sometimes struggle and have to bang it down a gear.
We used to have a fair few like 55 plate T5's with the 2.5L engines in and these went a lot better even tho on paper had less power but it was more torque which was usable.
We also had one t5 that was the 174 version and that flew.
Problem with T5's is there spec is daft, you get nothing, and i don't think the build quality these days is as good and there a lot of money for a nice one, and lets face it if your doing a lot of miles its nice to be somewhere well equipped. All ours have are electric windows/mirrors and cruise, tho we do have one with a sunroof :signLOL:
Me and guy i normally work with went and test drove a crafter other week as think he is upgrading to one of them least the one we looked at came with bluetooth handsfree so can stream music.
I used to have a 55 plate vivaro well i had two and they was both alright to be fair comfy enough if anything id say as a passenger comfier than the T5 as there not the best.
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Toyota Hiace ,for me !
Had three over the last fifteen years ,currently have 2010 lwb absolutely brilliant to drive.
My mates have bought my toyota's and there all going strong ,one is a 96 van.
If you want something that just goes on and on thats the van
They literally do not breakdown ,ask the AA or RAC , I have only had a glove compartment catch and a battery go on all the three I have owned,
Hard to believe but true.
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Ive had a hi-ace also.
Totally agree there bullet proof as i spent ages and ages trying to kill mine, ran it for about 15k with the timing belt light on but it wouldn't die.
Id literally rather walk than drive it tho, its terrible! :sick:
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I've got a Mercedes Sprinter 55 plate, 257,000 miles on the clock and doesn't miss a beat :)
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So there you have it.
In short:
A guy with a Transporter (SAINTSTEVE) says buy a Transit Sport.
A guy with a Transit Sport (Me) says buy a Transporter.
A guy with a 257,000 mile 55plate Mercedes says buy one of those.
Hope that helps........ :laugh:
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Transporter if you are bothered about scene points
My mate has one and its lush tbf
I don't understand your list tho, vw, merc.....then vauxhall :confused:
Vitos rust so easily too lol
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So there you have it.
In short:
A guy with a Transporter (SAINTSTEVE) says buy a Transit Sport.
A guy with a Transit Sport (Me) says buy a Transporter.
A guy with a 257,000 mile 55plate Mercedes says buy one of those.
Hope that helps........ :laugh:
Now im even more confused than before!
I think the general consensus is Transporter form other people we've spoken to too - we had a call from a dealer that said someone has pulled out of their buy (lost their deposit) so we're just getting some more information about that one and seeing what the score is - hopefully we can get away with not paying the deposit part as they've already got that money and get a bit of a deal on it.
Also i've realised the reason for the high prices for the transporters is because theyre soo in demand and VW just dont have enough supply - we were talking 12weeks for a new HighLine where we can pick up a brand new transit limited (top spec) in 10days
Transporter if you are bothered about scene points
My mate has one and its lush tbf
I don't understand your list tho, vw, merc.....then vauxhall :confused:
Vitos rust so easily too lol
A few Scene points always go well down on site - you dont want to be turning up in something crap and looking under the bonnet every 10mins
the vauxhall was only on there as a " well its a cheap van" we were thinking maybe buying something cheap and spending the rest of the money on a nice car for home driving like a Q7 or some sort
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I would defo go for transporter or transit.
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Transit crash-worthiness is nowhere near as good as the T5 or Vito. You'll loose your legs in crash in a Transit, compared to the same type of crash in the T5 or Vito.
The Vivaros (along with their French/Jap re-badged eqiuvalents) rust, and bits break off them.
Vitos go like stink!
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The new transit is the only van with a euro ncap rating of 5 stars.
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The new transit is the only van with a euro ncap rating of 5 stars.
The EuroNCAP ratings need to be read and interpreted within the context which they are tested for. Crashing in a laboratory into a specially desgned honeycomb block at 35mph is massively different to smashing into a concrete bridge parapet or the back of a 44tonne rigid at 70mph. Do the latter in a Ford - any Ford, and your next journey will be in a black zip-up bag to meet your wooden overcoat. In many German cars - that is a survivable accident.
At one particular county in eastern england - during 2013 - EVERY fatality was someone in a Ford - betcha Ford don't wanna publicise that stat!
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New Ford Transit :happy2:
+1. Did you see last week's Fifth Gear Team Test? It scored 36 and a 1/2 out of 40, and goes round corners on rails!!
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New Ford Transit :happy2:
+1. Did you see last week's Fifth Gear Team Test? It scored 36 and a 1/2 out of 40, and goes round corners on rails!!
We took it out for a test drive - its horrible to drive and the cabin is soo cramped hence it didnt make it onto the shortlist
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The new transit is the only van with a euro ncap rating of 5 stars.
:congrats: :congrats:
Spot on
Transit crash-worthiness is nowhere near as good as the T5 or Vito. You'll loose your legs in crash in a Transit, compared to the same type of crash in the T5 or Vito.
The Vivaros (along with their French/Jap re-badged eqiuvalents) rust, and bits break off them.
Vitos go like stink!
That's wrong.. :confused:
New transit is far better. If you buy a T5, brace yourself if something goes wrong out of warranty, they are notorious for turbo issues on a lot of the transporters.. Ask any AA or RAC if it's common :wink:
New Ford Transit :happy2:
+1. Did you see last week's Fifth Gear Team Test? It scored 36 and a 1/2 out of 40, and goes round corners on rails!!
We took it out for a test drive - its horrible to drive and the cabin is soo cramped hence it didnt make it onto the shortlist
I'm surprised about that, the transporter drives more like a Van, the Vivaro and transit are more similar driving feel to a car ...sort of thing..
I preferred driving for comfort my old vivaro's over the current T28 I have, except the transporter has all the toys which makes it better for me to live with day to day.
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I had a T28 102 for just over 3 years covering over 75k and it was faultless. I never even had to replace the rear tyres! The only problem (if you can call it that) was the lack of toys, everything was an extra so I was stuck poverty spec plus bulkhead and bluetooth.
I've just taken delivery of a Transit Custom limited 125 and it is loaded! It has everything except nav including heated seats, cruise, air con, dab' media streaming, heated screen, electric folding mirrors etc so to that end it's a fabulous place to be. It seems quite high geared but it doesn't bother me that much. That said, I wouldnt have hesitated in taking another Transporter (with a higher spec)
HTH :driver:
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We are running around 15 vans at the minute (Building Company) and have probably had 30 others before them over the years
Every single one has been a Transit, wouldn't buy anything else for the lads to drive. Cope really well with the hammer they get
For an owner driver, my mate is an engineer for Coca Cola and has a 61 Plate Transporter and it's a lovely van but not without its issues, as was his previous Vivaro (gearbox in both)
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We've got a SWB 06 Transporter with 52,000 on the clock. Even though it's not done anything yet, the only thing it's ever needed is new tyres. The van is brilliant and hasn't ever caused any problems. However, when we bought ours four years ago the neighbour bought a 57 Vito with 31,000 on the clock at the same time. His van has around 75,000 on the clock now and can safely be said to be a rust bucket. He regrets buying it big time.
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I would get a tranny all day everyday. When I worked for london underground all there vans were transits and they have circa 2000 vans
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