MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: th3_f15t on June 14, 2014, 12:04:25 pm
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So there seems to be many options for different brake set ups on the front wheels (mostly aiming this poll at modified GTI owners), but which systems seem to be the most popular?
Thought it'd be a good idea to have a poll with comments below detailing what people have got so that we could build some sort of reference for power (stage of tune) against brakes.
Example being;
I run a Stage 1+ tune (265bhp / 305 ft/lb torque) and I've opted for larger OEM front brakes in the form of Mk6 Golf R calipers and OEM discs.
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I'm on a stage 1 map with twintake running 261HP and 290Lb/f, I do a lot of fast road driving and I run Audi S3 front brakes with braided hoses and grooved discs.
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Edition 30 Stage 2 Revo running 342 bhp with 371 ft/lb, Golf R setup with added HEL Performance Braided Brake Lines + ATE Super R Blue Dot 4 Brake Fluid. :happy2:
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AKS Brembo GT senior http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,68533.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,68533.0.html)
ko4 converted GTI stage 2+ 315 bhp due the crappy Irish fuel we get here :sad1:
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^^^^ Do like those James. :notworthy:
Brembo Porsche 986 4 pots on mine. TBH I reckon my power requires something a bit bigger though. Tis keeping me up at nights thinking about brakes at the mo! :grin:
Eddy Stage2+ 361bhp 376ft lb
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmcaborn%2FMy_car%2Fnewrims005_zps2b9fe7ac.jpg&hash=c36120ffc2082bc01a5976a1bdf4262565a060f6)
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On my 500+bhp Golf R I am running - R8/Lamborghini 8 pots with OEM Lamborghini/R8 discs and OEM Lamborghini/R8 pads ( 4 pads per caliper!) and HEL braided lines.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2Fc16212e377ea629c8f11e4e2e3a8a2d2_zps966b38bc.jpg&hash=bf1963b6deae85f351a9246f7b1d09efddfb8e86)
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On my 500+bhp Golf R I am running - R8/Lamborghini 8 pots with OEM Lamborghini/R8 discs and OEM Lamborghini/R8 pads ( 4 pads per caliper!) and HEL braided lines.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2Fc16212e377ea629c8f11e4e2e3a8a2d2_zps966b38bc.jpg&hash=bf1963b6deae85f351a9246f7b1d09efddfb8e86)
^^^^ sexual :drool:
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These are going on the vRS next week:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ffordkaracing%2FOctavia_vRS%2F20140430_205113_zpswh3fczvh.jpg&hash=f354caad5818cabd6357c9c738a6e9cf6b34547a)
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Those Lambo brakes must break your neck when you stamp on them, shortly followed by breaking the bank to replace discs and pads. :P
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Soon to be Ttrs 4pots refurbed in white with daveb 362mm discs & pagid pads :smiley:
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AKS tuning 4 pot Ferrari F40 caliper/Custom bells and 370mm discs, 1 set out of 5 made :notworthy:
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I've read a lot about different brakes and which ones to go for, and am tempted by the R32 setup so I can keep my pescara's without spacers (I hope) but the weight of them is making me think twice.
I'm not likely to go further than a stage 1 map on my ed30, so for this setup I wonder whether I should just stick to upgraded discs/pads?
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It's a tricky one that, I would personally opt for larger OEM calipers and discs with some good pads, as then you can always upgrade to grooved/drilled discs later if you up the power a little more.
lets face it, who sticks with Stage 1+ forever? I won't be (despite trying to convince myself otherwise)!
Larger OEM calipers are heavy, but for ease of fitting and replacing parts along with the improved stopping power it's a good first step to take into the big brake world.
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It's true I have thought that, but having a manual means if I take it past stage 1 the likelihood of uprating the clutch increases too!
While it's standard it's not as big an issue but the standard brakes are still pretty poor even for 230bhp so definitely something to change once mapped
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I've read a lot about different brakes and which ones to go for, and am tempted by the R32 setup so I can keep my pescara's without spacers (I hope) but the weight of them is making me think twice.
I'm not likely to go further than a stage 1 map on my ed30, so for this setup I wonder whether I should just stick to upgraded discs/pads?
What you want is the RS4 B5 2 piston 354mm disc setup, not that fancy looking but will do what you ask of it and you can retain the OEM wheels
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_5024_zps843504ac.jpg&hash=4bdb907b1d788e352fceeb110cdd78ee91a15663) (http://s715.photobucket.com/user/jakethemoss/media/IMG_5024_zps843504ac.jpg.html)
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Handy advice thanks will bear those in mind
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I have a standard Edition 30 (will be Stage 1+ eventually).
I use OEM Rear brakes, with S3 345mm brakes up front using OEM disks & pads. This setup is perfectly suited to my driving style and my plans for power upgrades :smiley:
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I'm already looking to upgrade my fronts to 4 piston Brembo calipers up front! :party:
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Wowwww some lovely brake set ups going on in here
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So far more people have Lambo brakes than 6 pot ones... Interesting.
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I kept standard disks and pads at K03 Stage 2+ and never had an issue stopping. Although mine was purely a road car and I never tracked it; so I didn't need to keep doing high speed stops :driver:
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Some good reading in this thread.
I have standard mk2 Cupra 345mm pagid discs and pads and after my first track day I need to beef them up a good bit.
I don't do full day track days, only 2hr open pit sessions so nothing mega is required I think. I was looking at Hel lines with up graded pads and fluid and see how that gets on.
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I had the NQSBBK on my golf and I knew they were good, much more power but much more feel and control than the standard stuff, which was highlighted when I went back to standard and the first time out I thought I wasn't going to stop!!!
This time though Alex (AKS) has sourced me some TTRS calipers and a fitting kit for the TTS discs (340mm)
Can't wait to get them on!!!!
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Let me know how you get on with that set up mate as I'm looking at doin the same thing. Its the price of the fitting brackets that's putting me off tbh.
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AKS BBK here 370mm 2 piece with the Brembo calipers
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AKS BBK with a 370mm 2 piece disc here too but with DB9 calipers :innocent:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz396%2FLittle_Dave%2Fimagejpg2_zps627eec05.jpg&hash=5a915ab12e64951b12b906a6ad396601c0ea9df1)
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What's the difference if the DB9 Aston calipers to the TTRS/RS3 items???
Do the need more messing about to for the 345mm discs???
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I'm pretty sure the only difference is the sticker!
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I'm pretty sure the only difference is the sticker!
Think it's the same apart from the sticker
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I think TTRS, DB9 and Porsche (not sure of exact model) brakes all use a Brembo caliper of the same design, right? They're all good either way.
I want the NQSBBK... :sad1:
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Another one running the AKS 370mm Brembo GT Senior kit here. :evilgrin: :innocent:
Love them, especially now they've got some mental pads in too! :pomppomp:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2FAks_brakes%2F2013-07-20_16-56-44_HDR_zps494f4052.jpg&hash=7afdc6e0fdfa263b16c99a032e9545919c3679d4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2FAks_brakes%2F2013-07-20_16-56-17_HDR_zps4b7304b0.jpg&hash=1cdf20be27940c89d90f48ba460d10fc6e17adc7)
^^^^^Please ignore dirty wheels and HORRENDOUS Falkens....they came on the wheels! :laugh: :ashamed:
370mm discs actually look fairly small behind the 19's though! :sad1:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2Fmini_meet_2%2FIMG_7931559311513_zps192fd1ff.jpg&hash=ea33394cb0fdbd8000e71322ac3fb51b193d4b62)
^^^^^ 2 of the 10 kits actually in the same car park! :drinking: :party:
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Stage 2+ where's the oem option :rolleye:
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I'm actually running stock brakes on my stage 2+ 360hp 390ft and it's terrible lol, still yet to decide thinking ttrs as there so cheap on eBay for the calipers anyone know apart from discs if there a direct for or I need lines??
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I just fitted a set of seat cupra mk2 front calipers and discs to mine with oe pads, it is essentially the r32 setup in red to match the rears, oh and it was less that half the price from a seat dealer.
After loads of research I decided for this setup as it's best bang for buck and I can still upgrade the discs and pads to further better the setup.
I'm running a stage 2 gti. I've got all the part no's and contact details for the seat dealer if interested... It was approx £800 all in and fitting is on top.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F06%2F27%2Fubu7a9y7.jpg&hash=40856b6fd4ecd0ac7419c5c0cbcf74d1711d25b8)
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My new AKS/Aston 4 Pot set up on a 340mm TTS disc
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo72%2FBikerbob_bucket%2FIMG_3597_zpsc22da795.jpg&hash=3043cc8e7f15d3d72eae823ceb617443eec9b738)
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I've got Mike's 996tt calipers with ML500 350mm j hooked discs
would like to upgrade to the AKS 370mm swet up if a kit comes available.
presume Hurdy's Lambo set up will bolt onto a B8 S4 as probably getting one of those next
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My new AKS/Aston 4 Pot set up on a 340mm TTS disc
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo72%2FBikerbob_bucket%2FIMG_3597_zpsc22da795.jpg&hash=3043cc8e7f15d3d72eae823ceb617443eec9b738)
How much did this setup cost as thinking for getting the same thing myself? As well as copying your head lights, think I'm just going to copy your whole car. :pomppomp:
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How much did this setup cost as thinking for getting the same thing myself? As well as copying your head lights, think I'm just going to copy your whole car. :pomppomp:
Haha cheers dude! I bought the kit new as seen here…
https://www.facebook.com/AKStuning/photos/pb.124288387696681.-2207520000.1403955248./428082620650588/?type=3&theater
But if I remember correctly you already have 345’s up front so you just need the fitting kit from Alex which is £250 and some calipers which are £495 new from him with Aston lettering or some second hand TTRS/RS3 ones off here or the bay…
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I would probably be advised not to click that link as I've over spent the next 12 month's budget already, but...
*click*
:party:
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I've always liked the 6 pots!
Get appropriate disc is the main thing. You don't want to build too much heat!
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I'd probably run with the one peice J-hooked discs myself at first, as can't afford the AP Racing discs straigh away.
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Another one running the AKS 370mm Brembo GT Senior kit here. :evilgrin: :innocent:
Love them, especially now they've got some mental pads in too! :pomppomp:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2FAks_brakes%2F2013-07-20_16-56-44_HDR_zps494f4052.jpg&hash=7afdc6e0fdfa263b16c99a032e9545919c3679d4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2FAks_brakes%2F2013-07-20_16-56-17_HDR_zps4b7304b0.jpg&hash=1cdf20be27940c89d90f48ba460d10fc6e17adc7)
^^^^^Please ignore dirty wheels and HORRENDOUS Falkens....they came on the wheels! :laugh: :ashamed:
370mm discs actually look fairly small behind the 19's though! :sad1:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Freaders_ride_2013%2Fmini_meet_2%2FIMG_7931559311513_zps192fd1ff.jpg&hash=ea33394cb0fdbd8000e71322ac3fb51b193d4b62)
^^^^^ 2 of the 10 kits actually in the same car park! :drinking: :party:
Off topic I know but...
What size are your 19 oz's? Might be looking at a set soon and unsure what width to get either 8 or 8.5 and wondering what ET you have? 45? Obviously need to clear the same bbk so any info appreciated :happy2:
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Hey buddy, they're 8x19 et45 like you guessed. Running 225/35/19 tyres and it's all good. Glad to say the 8x18 et45 also fit nicely over the brakes too as the tyres are much cheaper! :happy2:
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I'm always forgetting that when you go bigger brakes other than OEM, you need to factor offsets, clearance, spacers... Dreams are all well and good!
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There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.
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Really simple question,
I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?
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There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.
AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under :happy2:
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Really simple question,
I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?
Did with me. :happy2:
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Really simple question,
I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?
Did with me. :happy2:
Not sure about that... caliper carrier and disc are larger in the r32
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can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks
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can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks
You need calipers, caliperbrackets, discs, pads, brakelines and braketubes (sits on the caliper itself) to fit them to your mk 6 GTI with 312mm brakesetup, period :happy2:
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There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.
AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under :happy2:
Thanks for clearing that up fella! :happy2:
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can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks
R32 brake disc is 345mm and thicker than GTi brake disc which is 312mm.
Carrier is larger to hold the much larger R32 brake caliper. Part numbers are also different which suggests they are different.
You also need to change the brake lines, pads etc.
Here's an image I found as a comparison for the carriers...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F05%2F3etynu2u.jpg&hash=572b34324cb799c261934faea2e6f6b6679e5399)
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Ok thanks for clearing that up, I kinda thought that was classed as part of the caliper ( I a noob when it comes to brakes), Well i think I should be fine as this is the set ive got and it looks like the carries are pre-attached to the calipers.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1482_zpse476b130.jpg&hash=91925c995338667031f27ce337e162917020ce3a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1524_zps65f05b5c.jpg&hash=bf492359e53730e4438d6f414c0b5512f13365bf)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1525_zps8e293961.jpg&hash=15b53813e7cf1bf79ccdc0bb3bc8283c16cc31e8)
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Ok thanks for clearing that up, I kinda thought that was classed as part of the caliper ( I a noob when it comes to brakes), Well i think I should be fine as this is the set ive got and it looks like the carries are pre-attached to the calipers.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1482_zpse476b130.jpg&hash=91925c995338667031f27ce337e162917020ce3a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1524_zps65f05b5c.jpg&hash=bf492359e53730e4438d6f414c0b5512f13365bf)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk489%2Frocketrossuk%2FIMG_1525_zps8e293961.jpg&hash=15b53813e7cf1bf79ccdc0bb3bc8283c16cc31e8)
With those you are cleared for takeoff ;)
You only miss the MOT dustshields :wink:
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If you're doing this yourself, then make sure you pay attension to how your stock calipers come off. Your new 345mm setup bolts back on the same way.
I didn't pay attention and bolted the calipers on the wrong way round! Make sure the bleed nipple is at the top of the caliper.
Are dust shield an MOT requirement? How would people with 4/6 piston calipers pass then?
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Not doing it my self now and i could do with a full brake fluid change. I thought with these you just bend the GTI dust shields backwards a bit. People said no pint buying R32 unless your really fussy, this true?
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There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.
AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under :happy2:
Thanks for clearing that up fella! :happy2:
AP 4 pot will fit behind a standard Monza - this was one of the reasons I bought them :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FAP_Brake_17s_1.jpg&hash=94377ca46ef4242d9c81291efb64621606343b6f)
(pic courtesy of Robin :happy2:)
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Dust shields and new brake lines, do it properly... Not expensive. Can you take a close up of the anti rattle clip? I like the icon!!
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If you're doing this yourself, then make sure you pay attension to how your stock CALIPERs come off. Your new 345mm setup bolts back on the same way.
I didn't pay attention and bolted the CALIPERs on the wrong way round! Make sure the bleed nipple is at the top of the caliper.
Are dust shield an MOT requirement? How would people with 4/6 piston CALIPERs pass then?
No dust shields isn't a mot requirement.
There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.
AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under :happy2:
Thanks for clearing that up fella! :happy2:
AP 4 pot will fit behind a standard Monza - this was one of the reasons I bought them :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FAP_Brake_17s_1.jpg&hash=94377ca46ef4242d9c81291efb64621606343b6f)
(pic courtesy of Robin :happy2:)
What would you guys say these ap 4pots are good for, bhp wise?
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Again, new shields and lines are inexpensive and make everything look great. The bending of shields I believe is for the rear brakes when swapped to R32/S3 setups.
If the OEM brake upgrade can cope with up to 280BHP, 4 piston calipers can go higher but ultimately the efficiency varies with the disc and pad choices that accompany them? Using solid, cheaper discs (the term cheaper is relative here) will probably mean less stopping power than the 2 piece discs which are expensive (both relatively and actually!).
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What would you guys say these ap 4pots are good for, bhp wise?
More than enough for K04 Stg 2+ dude - they are amazing :happy2:
Obviously, it depends on pad selection, driving style, track usage etc, but APs are serious brakes and imo the 4 pot with 330mm disc are the perfect balance on a mk5 :happy2:
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I am considering some rs3/ttrs calipers on 340mm disc. Damn this thread..... :fighting:
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When I popped up to AKS, I got my hands on some TTRS calipers and my god they're lighter and better quality.
Do it.
Now.
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Ok..... :signLOL:
I am increasingly finding the R32 brakes just not cutting it.
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What would you guys say these ap 4pots are good for, bhp wise?
More than enough for K04 Stg 2+ dude - they are amazing :happy2:
Obviously, it depends on pad selection, driving style, track usage etc, but APs are serious brakes and imo the 4 pot with 330mm disc are the perfect balance on a mk5 :happy2:
Awesome :happy2: so how do you get a hold of these? Just been on the ap website but it hasn't got a buy it part
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What would you guys say these ap 4pots are good for, bhp wise?
More than enough for K04 Stg 2+ dude - they are amazing :happy2:
Obviously, it depends on pad selection, driving style, track usage etc, but APs are serious brakes and imo the 4 pot with 330mm disc are the perfect balance on a mk5 :happy2:
Awesome :happy2: so how do you get a hold of these? Just been on the ap website but it hasn't got a buy it part
Check out Reyland Motorsport for kits and parts :happy2:
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Ok..... :signLOL:
I am increasingly finding the R32 brakes just not cutting it.
I suffer the same problem...
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Thoughts on these??
http://www.reyland.co.uk/vw-golf-all-models/
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Very, very nice. Always a fan of a nice AP logo on my calipers. But I'm sure Alex at AKS could do a DB9 or TTRS kit similar for a few hhundred less. And who doesn't like the idea of an Aston Martin logo?
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Very, very nice. Always a fan of a nice AP logo on my calipers. But I'm sure Alex at AKS could do a DB9 or TTRS kit similar for a few hhundred less. And who doesn't like the idea of an Aston Martin logo?
Me.... :signLOL:
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Then AP brakes it is. You're not doing much to resist an upgrade, think you needed someone to tip you over the edge and blame.
:signLOL:
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Then AP brakes it is. You're not doing much to resist an upgrade, think you needed someone to tip you over the edge and blame.
:signLOL:
Well i was gonna go stage 2+.... now I am thinking brakes, because these ones are not filling me full of stopping joy! :laugh:
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Seriously now, I made the choice to increase power before chassis modifications, not that I regret it but I used to always be live your chassis should be tuned for power before your engine.
Brakes are my top chassis priority, hence why I've at least done them!
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Thoughts on these??
http://www.reyland.co.uk/vw-golf-all-models/
Which ones in the link are you looking at? I looked at getting the 6 pot kit with the CP7040 calipers and 362mm rotors which seem like a fab price, but after speaking to Dave and Hurdy mentioning the AP calipers are ugly it put me off lol. There's someone selling an Alcon extreme BBK (4pots) on the R forum for £1.5k which isn't a bad price.
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Me an Alex are working on a forum exclusive brake deal only in limited numbers unfortunately, its to run the DB9 Calipers which have been refinished and therefore unbranded in either red or black onto 340mm J Hook TTS Discs and some decent RS4-2 pads. Beauty of it is the value of the kit is in the calipers and pads so its not impossible to upgrade to floating rotors from AP later on and sell on the discs and brackets
The DB9 caliper is a good 0.4KG lighter than the TTRS caliper, strange but true
They also look really good in red - really good
Aiming to keep it inside four figures but might struggle - max 10 kits probably - its to move some excess stock chatting to Alex about it tomorrow - will defo only be for Mk5 forumites only though, unless they don't sell but thats very unlikely at that price point, its trackdayable as well with the TT discs as long as you're not out there all day.
Little bit of misconception about "stopping power" decel=clamping force x effective radius VERY simply put.
A solid 340mm disc braking distance will be the same as a 340mm two piece disc, we go two piece for unsprung weight and heat management.
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^^^
Ah Dave, why didn't you tell me about this earlier... :sad1:
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DB9, in red, about £1000?
I make that Pimms'o'clock?
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:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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interested to dave. :laugh:
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These will go like hotcakes Dave! :happy2:
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Dust shields and new brake lines, do it properly... Not expensive. Can you take a close up of the anti rattle clip? I like the icon!!
The lines look pretty decent, so might swap at a later date. Whats the cost of dust shields? I thought just bending them back was fine on these.
The logo on the rattle clip is the the B from the brembo logo. I have a few if anyone want to buy one :happy2:
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Dust shields and new brake lines, do it properly... Not expensive. Can you take a close up of the anti rattle clip? I like the icon!!
The lines look pretty decent, so might swap at a later date. Whats the cost of dust shields? I thought just bending them back was fine on these.
The logo on the rattle clip is the the B from the brembo logo. I have a few if anyone want to buy one :happy2:
Are they brembo calipers....?
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Dust shields and new brake lines, do it properly... Not expensive. Can you take a close up of the anti rattle clip? I like the icon!!
The lines look pretty decent, so might swap at a later date. Whats the cost of dust shields? I thought just bending them back was fine on these.
The logo on the rattle clip is the the B from the brembo logo. I have a few if anyone want to buy one :happy2:
Are they brembo calipers....?
Nope, standard R32 one's :ashamed:
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Not that this is a group buy thread, but I'll take a red kit. Happy to lay down a deposit too...
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Not that this is a group buy thread, but I'll take a red kit. Happy to lay down a deposit too...
Ahem, jumping the gun a bit :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: lol
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Put brembo decals on them Dave. :innocent:
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Thanks for all the PM's :ashamed:
Just to say prices arent confirmed, Alex is shortly going to be having access to all my stock remotely, so its probably going to be administered maybe install only by him and it will definitely be in limited number definitely no more than 10 and probably less
Problem is pads, I simply don't want to get involved in selling crap pads, base pad for the kit will be RS4-2 and we'll discount the PMU pads so they're not much extra but whichever way you look at it RS4-2 rrp is over £260 which doesnt leave much room for calipers/refinishing/bracketry/line/bolts/pad fitting kits/wear sensors/discs/machining costs and keep it three figures M1144 might feature because as you can all see from Alex's Facebook page we've managed to get him some very special support on that material, in fact I'm surprised his latest "combo" deal hasn't made it on here yet - coz its frickin stupidly stupid cheap - i think he was doing them as a show special which maybe explains why - besides he's probably none left
Anyway Alex now officially has a hard on for Project Mu compound H16 after he's got them in the VRS, thats before a track day where they impress even more....
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Put brembo decals on them Dave. :innocent:
they'll be coming unbranded, you can put any logo you like on them. Got to say the caliper looks awesome in red - think its just cause I'm used to seeing them black all the time
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Put brembo decals on them Dave. :innocent:
they'll be coming unbranded, you can put any logo you like on them. Got to say the caliper looks awesome in red - think its just cause I'm used to seeing them black all the time
Yes they do, red looks mega. Black looks cack IMO. Also no use to anyone with a GTI unless you mess about painting the rears. In red they will fly off the shelves.
How much just for calipers and fitting kit? PM me.
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:party: :party: :party: :party:
so how is this working then, first come first served once you've set up an official thread for it?
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Dave, do you think I would I notice a big difference/improvement over my current NQSBBK set up?
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Fit behind OEM wheels with a 12mm spacer too :party:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo72%2FBikerbob_bucket%2FIMG_3633_zps6e729793.jpg&hash=640e179bed7ef1f033dac86547205575b90b9ffb)
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Fit behind OEM wheels with a 12mm spacer too :party:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo72%2FBikerbob_bucket%2FIMG_3633_zps6e729793.jpg&hash=640e179bed7ef1f033dac86547205575b90b9ffb)
To avoid spacers is the trick, not using spacers :signLOL:
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To avoid spacers is the trick, not using spacers :signLOL:
I like my wheels and the 312's are shocking so it had to be done :happy2:
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I've just bought my set off a lad on eBay along with near new pagid 4-2 pads. They're surprisingly light and look great in the silver. Just need the fitting kit with braided lines now. Also just bought ate super blue fluid.
I've noticed they don't have wear indicators tho, how do I keep the light from appearing on the dash???
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMobile_Uploads%2F2014-06%2FCF63559C-2A72-4E39-9E04-06685A60B5BB.jpg&hash=7f045ac01e7f4aef8c83daf33f65c10bd8f0883b)
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^^^^ Good choice pal, if you've got wear indicators enabled it'll need to be coded out using VCDS! :happy2:
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Can't you bridge then end of the sensor to create a signal?
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VCDS is the easy option :happy2:
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Thanks lads. Come to think of it, it might coded out already as the car had the big vwr racing brakes on it before I bought it. I'll check with the previous owner.
Just wondering, what other discs options are available to fit with these calipers without the use of brackets, as in if I wanted to fit a bigger discs??? Is it just a straight bolt on job???
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Not sure exactly on what you will need to fit them but it's possible to fit a 362mm disc
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fss106%2Fjasonk_2009%2FB16D104F-FB30-4901-9D94-970BC79AF7A9.png&hash=15fde27480241f3c9548df627fc6aa6d3aa76e9e)
Or a 370mm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz396%2FLittle_Dave%2Fimagejpg2_zps627eec05.jpg&hash=5a915ab12e64951b12b906a6ad396601c0ea9df1)
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Where can I get those discs???
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Where can I get those discs???
Speak to Alex or DaveB :happy2:
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Got the chance of a set of TTRS 370mm discs for a good price, cheaper than the fitting kit that aks sell for the 345mm discs anyways.
Are they really as bad as everyone makes out???
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Make your own decision...
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,80854.0.html
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Got the chance of a set of TTRS 370mm discs for a good price, cheaper than the fitting kit that aks sell for the 345mm discs anyways.
Are they really as bad as everyone makes out???
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154325815040006&id=618815005&set=gm.929210383771147
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The link doesn't work
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Dave, how much are your bigger discs to buy???
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The link doesn't work
It was and advert on the VAG tuning group......basically read
TTRS discs three months old, slight vibration will be fine after a skim
£200
3 Months.....pretty much sums it up
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Dave, how much are your bigger discs to buy???
Technically they're smaller, the kit retails at £1250 and that includes lines bolts carriers etc etc
Sounds a lot but mate that to some eBay TTRS calipers at 3-400£ and its a affordable BBK, if you want new calipers and some fast road Pagids it comes to just under £2k....
Much better value than the VWR kit that costs £600 to make and retails at £2.2k bonkers!
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Someone needs to buy those ttrs calipers on eBay in red with brembo decal. Those plus fitting kit discs and pads = winning combo
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^^^^ Just been looking at those! :laugh:
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^^^^ Just been looking at those! :laugh:
Don't look buy. FYI. They have been relisted as They didn't sell last time... You might be able to nab them for 351 quid
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^^^^ The bank of SHMBO has just raised an eyebrow at me, that's a "no" then! :grin:
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^^^^ The bank of SHMBO has just raised an eyebrow at me, that's a "no" then! :grin:
Not mastered the art of keeping these things quiet yet?? :grin: :grin:
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Looking at the price of some of the kits and add that too how much we spend modifying our cars. It would work out cheaper to buy a more expensive sports car with all these mods fitted as std :rolleye:
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^^^^ The bank of SHMBO has just raised an eyebrow at me, that's a "no" then! :grin:
Not mastered the art of keeping these things quiet yet?? :grin: :grin:
God no! I'm an idiot and have never been able to do that. :laugh:
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:signLOL:
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Looking at the price of some of the kits and add that too how much we spend modifying our cars. It would work out cheaper to buy a more expensive sports car with all these mods fitted as std :rolleye:
Maybe.......but where's the fun in that?
I could be wrong but I/we don't modify because we have too, it's because we want too!
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^^^^ The bank of SHMBO has just raised an eyebrow at me, that's a "no" then! :grin:
Not mastered the art of keeping these things quiet yet?? :grin: :grin:
God no! I'm an idiot and have never been able to do that. :laugh:
My worst nightmare is me passing on, and the wife sells the car for what i've told her it has cost :signLOL:
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Looking at the price of some of the kits and add that too how much we spend modifying our cars. It would work out cheaper to buy a more expensive sports car with all these mods fitted as std :rolleye:
Maybe.......but where's the fun in that?
I could be wrong but I/we don't modify because we have too, it's because we want too!
No, we have to. How can we, as enthusiasts, allow our cars to be the same as all the other "normal" cars? We must modify in order to correct the compromises that came with the car from the factory.
That's my excuse anyway, working well so far.
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All this brake talk is very confusing... wanting to spend about £500 on some brakes, with discs, ideally Porsche 4 pots with a 312mm , up to a 345mm disc... rears I can just put to S3/R32 ones and that'll be fine..
Just need some better stopping power and a much firmer pedal.
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All this brake talk is very confusing... wanting to spend about £500 on some brakes, with discs, ideally Porsche 4 pots with a 312mm , up to a 345mm disc... rears I can just put to S3/R32 ones and that'll be fine..
Just need some better stopping power and a much firmer pedal.
You may have a job with your merc wheels without running spacers.
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All this brake talk is very confusing... wanting to spend about £500 on some brakes, with discs, ideally Porsche 4 pots with a 312mm , up to a 345mm disc... rears I can just put to S3/R32 ones and that'll be fine..
Just need some better stopping power and a much firmer pedal.
NQSBBK is your best bet Jay, a nice even, progressive pedal feel IMO. Good pads will bring a lot to the party too.
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When you say progressive pedal feel do you mean it has a lot of travel?
My car does stop but has pretty long pedal and I'd rather have a much firmer race car pedal lol
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When you say progressive pedal feel do you mean it has a lot of travel?
My car does stop but has pretty long pedal and I'd rather have a much firmer race car pedal lol
Ading bigger brakes with bigger pistons will only increase pedal travel. I think.
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When you say progressive pedal feel do you mean it has a lot of travel?
My car does stop but has pretty long pedal and I'd rather have a much firmer race car pedal lol
Ading bigger brakes with bigger pistons will only increase pedal travel. I think.
Progressiv has nothing to do with travel, it's how the pads grips the disc, progressiv is imo the stock pads fitted to most roadgoing cars, it bites slowly in the start and you have to move the pedal more than expected to get a bite, whereas the linear ones ads bite according to the amount of pedal you give it.
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I didn't say it did.... Read the post above again. Jay said his pedal has lots of travel
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Dave, how much are your bigger discs to buy???
Technically they're smaller, the kit retails at £1250 and that includes lines bolts carriers etc etc
Sounds a lot but mate that to some eBay TTRS calipers at 3-400£ and its a affordable BBK, if you want new calipers and some fast road Pagids it comes to just under £2k....
Much better value than the VWR kit that costs £600 to make and retails at £2.2k bonkers!
£1250 just for a set of discs is a lot of cash for a car that only sees the track a handful of times a year.
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When you say progressive pedal feel do you mean it has a lot of travel?
My car does stop but has pretty long pedal and I'd rather have a much firmer race car pedal lol
By progressive I mean they don't snatch, are not jerky when called upon and indeed bite in a linear fashion. As I understand it with multiple pistons (albeit only 4) and the smaller piston gripping first followed by the larger one it feels smooth. And there's no long pedal travel, or at least not with mine.
:happy2:
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Dave, how much are your bigger discs to buy???
Technically they're smaller, the kit retails at £1250 and that includes lines bolts carriers etc etc
Sounds a lot but mate that to some eBay TTRS calipers at 3-400£ and its a affordable BBK, if you want new calipers and some fast road Pagids it comes to just under £2k....
Much better value than the VWR kit that costs £600 to make and retails at £2.2k bonkers!
£1250 just for a set of discs is a lot of cash for a car that only sees the track a handful of times a year.
Well as I said its not just discs and to be honest you need a reason to buy the AP Stuff, it started life as a TTRS replacement kit some guys were going through stock rotors in 3 weeks now you either take your 40k TTRS off the road or buy stock again or upgrade. Theres not just none available that work theres Tarox and some guy from the US thats making some weird and wonderful assembly...in fairness they've all been tried on track and have been found wanting.
Theres just no point doing a track day in a TTRS with stock brakes, you won't make it till the afternoon session....
Buying a set of AP's for a 11k Edition 30 is a major commitment, maybe not so much for a 13 plate TTRS worth 35K.
Theres 200 TT Kits out there, some have found there way into Mk5/6/7 and others but generally its a way of just not worrying about brakes and people end up worrying about a lack of power and crap tyres....
Its quality stuff, race car quality castings and heat treatments, CNC alloy bracketry and bells, fixings from a GT Car and a bell design straight from a LMP car it all costs to manufacture in the UK and assemble. Its a whole load better than the VWR Kit which is considering what you end up with is a crazy price.
If you want to put some red calipers with those APs it'll be another £600 pagid blues £240, add it all together and its still less than the VWR kit or a Brembo Kit with solid discs
That said you need a reason to buy AP but if you have the requirement theres little choice....
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You've hit the nail in the head with the commitment of paying serious wedge for brakes on a car that's worth around £12k.
I only do the 2-4hr open pit sessions a few times a year so I think the DB9 calipers coupled with my standard 345mm discs is plenty enough. I hope it is anyways.
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You've hit the nail in the head with the commitment of paying serious wedge for brakes on a car that's worth around £12k.
I only do the 2-4hr open pit sessions a few times a year so I think the DB9 calipers coupled with my standard 345mm discs is plenty enough. I hope it is anyways.
Cool let us know how you get on, theres nobody trying to sell vast amounts of the AP stuff Ive always said theres a cheaper alternative, good story though - Darius Loba of Loba Motorsport has a good friend who does all the special 5 axis compressor wheel machining for Loba themselves, he gets his son a TTRS...fits AP brakes and Pagid Blues and did 42 track laps back to back. He was a novice (he had a full tank), pads were flattened, in one day, he actually came in because he was running out of fuel (about 120 miles lol)
My point is that he knocked 11 seconds of his lap time that afternoon with some braking capability and heat headroom, now don't get me wrong he'd done maybe 1 or two track days previously but it demonstrates what can be done in terms of enjoyment when you've confidence in a car that will stop reliably
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Coming away from the realms of 4 piston calipers, what's a good set of grooved 345mm discs for the S3/R32 setup? Also pads...
Main reason I ask is that after coming away from this thread I realised I have no need for 4 piston CALIPERs just yet but some decent discs and pads for stage 2 will do (as well as S3 rears).
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Coming away from the realms of 4 piston calipers, what's a good set of grooved 345mm discs for the S3/R32 setup? Also pads...
Main reason I ask is that after coming away from this thread I realised I have no need for 4 piston CALIPERs just yet but some decent discs and pads for stage 2 will do (as well as S3 rears).
Get TTS 340's lighter and no lip...
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What sort of price am I looking at?
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What sort of price am I looking at?
I bought mine as part of a kit so unsure on price but get in touch with Monte on here, as just after I had bought mine he offered me a brand new set of Brembo 340's for a £100 :happy2:
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I know they're ridiculously more pricey than the Audi TTS discs, but just seen these;
http://www.psituning.com/product.php/23217/ecs_front_cross_drilled___slotted_2_piece_brake_rotors___pair__345x30____30__lighter__mk5_r_mk6_r
Thoughts/Opinions?
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Casual bump to get more votes.
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I know they're ridiculously more pricey than the Audi TTS discs, but just seen these;
http://www.psituning.com/product.php/23217/ecs_front_cross_drilled___slotted_2_piece_brake_rotors___pair__345x30____30__lighter__mk5_r_mk6_r
Thoughts/Opinions?
Hahahahahaha 550?
You can buy a bbk for that!
I'm ooot.
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Find me a bbk for that money please jay.
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I did notice that price. Think you can source a set of used Porsche 4-pots for that and as long as you don't mind used parts (without refurb) then it's the same price to not only save weight but also increase braking power!
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Do you have to run uprated master cylinder when upping the caliper size?
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Not really, I don't think. The OEM and 4 piston caliper upgrades work perfectly well with the OEM master cylinder. Even the 6 piston calipers work fine, but people are looking towards to an Audi TTRS master cylinder when they go to this level of braking.
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Right, I need to clear something up here...
Can you run Audi TTRS 4 piston calipers with DaveB1970 brackets with 340 Audi TTS J hook discs without using spacers on a mk5 Golf GTI with 18" alloys (BBS CH with an of ET45 if that helps)? Also what's the sort of price I'd be paying for a kit, all brand new?
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Right, I need to clear something up here...
Can you run Audi TTRS 4 piston calipers with DaveB1970 brackets with 340 Audi TTS J hook discs without using spacers on a mk5 Golf GTI with 18" alloys (BBS CH with an of ET45 if that helps)? Also what's the sort of price I'd be paying for a kit, all brand new?
Doubtful. 10mm spacer probably
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Damn, as I think pushing my wheels out 10mm will start to cause issues with the arch. Are there any kits that work without spacers? Seen an AP Racing 4 piston set up that claims to not need spacers, but again I'm assuming this is down to clearance of the alloy over the caliper?
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Right, I need to clear something up here...
Can you run Audi TTRS 4 piston calipers with DaveB1970 brackets with 340 Audi TTS J hook discs without using spacers on a mk5 Golf GTI with 18" alloys (BBS CH with an of ET45 if that helps)? Also what's the sort of price I'd be paying for a kit, all brand new?
Doubtful. 10mm spacer probably
5mm will be fine. I will be doing 3mm and 5mm spacer kits with hub extenders soon.
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Hub extenders..? Explain to us simple folk what these do please...
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Hub extenders..? Explain to us simple folk what these do please...
Was going to try and be funny and just say 'they extend the hubs' :P
It's an alloy insert that is fitted into the end of the hub collar, to extend the collar which then allows the wheel to be seated on a 'fake' section of the hub.
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I had mine fitted today.......PHE.....NO.....MEN.....AL!!!!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa585%2FBiano44%2FP1030600_zps4eab54b4.jpg&hash=cc5d43831f29baeba34fa2d6b64cfdd2548db87d)
I think what Alex means by hub extenders is 3/5mm spacers that are hub centric or similar. But I could be wrong.
Turns out I was wrong but not by much.
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Shh you, looking at your project was the cause of these thoughts to enter my mind!
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I had mine fitted today.......PHE.....NO.....MEN.....AL!!!!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa585%2FBiano44%2FP1030600_zps4eab54b4.jpg&hash=cc5d43831f29baeba34fa2d6b64cfdd2548db87d)
I think what Alex means by hub extenders is 3/5mm spacers that are hub centric or similar. But I could be wrong.
Turns out I was wrong but not by much.
Looks great.
You cant get hubcentric 3/5mm spacer as there isn't enough internal room for the hub to sit into.
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Shh you, looking at your project was the cause of these thoughts to enter my mind!
Its totally worth it......I'd be quick though as when I asked Alex last week he only had one fitting kit left and it wouldn't surprise me if its gone already.
My mechanic asked me today "how much?". Everyone will pay a different price. I managed to find calipers that were quite cheap (Thanks Alex for the tip), the TTS discs are quite cheap and you could put regular Pagid pads in (but opted for RS4-2's) and the fitting kit is £250ish. All add's up to quite a few £'s.
Obviously you can go nuts and have floating discs and better pads but it's all up to you.
They look better, brake better, better feel under the foot with more control, and are lighter than normal GTi brakes so will be loads lighter than S3 brakes......Just ask MR Wigley how heavy they are! :signLOL:
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I had mine fitted today.......PHE.....NO.....MEN.....AL!!!!
I think what Alex means by hub extenders is 3/5mm spacers that are hub centric or similar. But I could be wrong.
Turns out I was wrong but not by much.
Looks great.
You cant get hubcentric 3/5mm spacer as there isn't enough internal room for the hub to sit into.
Thanks Alex.
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Right, I need to clear something up here...
Can you run Audi TTRS 4 piston calipers with DaveB1970 brackets with 340 Audi TTS J hook discs without using spacers on a mk5 Golf GTI with 18" alloys (BBS CH with an of ET45 if that helps)? Also what's the sort of price I'd be paying for a kit, all brand new?
On an oem offset wheel so ET51 I needed a 12mm spacer to just clear the caliper and in regards to cost, for everything new it's £1200 for the kit.
https://m.facebook.com/AKStuning/photos/pb.124288387696681.-2207520000.1403955248./428082620650588/?type=3&theater
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Cheers guys. Once my other outstanding mods are sorted and the scrap yard of stock parts is shifted I'll look to getting a TTRS kit I reckon before going stage 2.
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I'm running stg2+ on my ed30. Running stock rear brakes and TTRS front discs and calipers! MIT feels amazing even with oem pads.
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My old ED30 brake set-up. Tarox 10 pots.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FTAROXbrakes002web.jpg&hash=0e4ce7bc6605228dc2d36a6b3e7f7af768333c19)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FTAROXbrakes005web.jpg&hash=fea7553b7a5295552f3638bc62fb5a74825e91d3)
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My old ED30 brake set-up. Tarox 10 pots.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FTAROXbrakes002web.jpg&hash=0e4ce7bc6605228dc2d36a6b3e7f7af768333c19)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FTAROXbrakes005web.jpg&hash=fea7553b7a5295552f3638bc62fb5a74825e91d3)
which IMO is not for the road, extremely noisy and although the brake well they generate a lot of heat. This how they looked after track use
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_4457_zps3c6b43b8.jpg&hash=4a52f4fcbf270331387b1155ab8e523af6c78d9e) (http://s715.photobucket.com/user/jakethemoss/media/IMG_4457_zps3c6b43b8.jpg.html)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_4458_zps90530258.jpg&hash=5146fbe3e03097f7e1a78705ef6b77adbdda8e89) (http://s715.photobucket.com/user/jakethemoss/media/IMG_4458_zps90530258.jpg.html)
And the results of they heat they generated
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_4455_zps9c9fbe87.jpg&hash=36d29f84ae033b94c65fc91011fcf57d07839adc) (http://s715.photobucket.com/user/jakethemoss/media/IMG_4455_zps9c9fbe87.jpg.html)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_4456-1_zps69b8e71a.jpg&hash=60579c47a8f69a2474eb41466a22bec4ced79cc3) (http://s715.photobucket.com/user/jakethemoss/media/IMG_4456-1_zps69b8e71a.jpg.html)
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That's just ludicrous! :mad:
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A Tarox seal kit costs as much as the calipers!
Pads are even worse. One of the 6 pot kit uses a pad from a Ford Cargo van.
After using Tarox before, they are not something I would go back to.
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A Tarox seal kit costs as much as the calipers!
Pads are even worse. One of the 6 pot kit uses a pad from a Ford Cargo van.
After using Tarox before, they are not something I would go back to.
Same here Alex :happy2:
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Think we should have some more pictures of 6, 8 and 10 piston calipers and setups. You know, for reference and all that...
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Here's a Cayenne BBK for the back end. Lusted over these (pics below) a few times over the years(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmcaborn%2FSmileys%2Fsmileywhip.gif&hash=4eb246c2511106a5805ebeb328c64b3312337390)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F35e75bd9086f4575a5178d90991df396_zpsb271fc83.jpg&hash=8cb63c0f581298106cbaf59339a12b864375683f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fabe8d3b1d275227bd2db322997621ade_zpsa3f43980.jpg&hash=332d41ae632a54e5558f446e92bd6f9deaf9b1b3)
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Here's a Cayenne BBK for the back end. Lusted over these (pics below) a few times over the years(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmcaborn%2FSmileys%2Fsmileywhip.gif&hash=4eb246c2511106a5805ebeb328c64b3312337390)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F35e75bd9086f4575a5178d90991df396_zpsb271fc83.jpg&hash=8cb63c0f581298106cbaf59339a12b864375683f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fabe8d3b1d275227bd2db322997621ade_zpsa3f43980.jpg&hash=332d41ae632a54e5558f446e92bd6f9deaf9b1b3)
On the top picture the brake caliper has the bleed valves facing downwards :stupid:
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^^^^ Oh yeah! :signLOL:
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Dragging this post back to the top for more votes!
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Dragging this post back to the top for more votes!
Just changed my vote!! :innocent:
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Dragging this post back to the top for more votes!
Just changed my vote!! :innocent:
Waiting for the day I can change my vote. Looks like I'll be going down the Porsche caliper route as it's cheaper (both initial cost and replacement parts) and a bit more bling to have a nice Porsche logo under my wheels.
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Changed my vote also, these 4pots are incredible.
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So the current favorite is ttrs 4 pots and hook discs, if I'm wanting to retain the oem eddy wheels. I'm still on 312mm gti brakes at stage 2+ and it's far from ideal.
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You'll need spacers with most wheels with the Audi TTRS brake conversion, most likely an 8-10mm spacer. I'm opting for the NQSBBK and I can run it behind my BBS CH without spacers, it uses the stock 312mm disc and is about half the price of the Audi TTRS set up but still uses a 4 piston Brembo caliper (from a Porsche). Cheaper in the long run to service too.
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You'll need spacers with most wheels with the Audi TTRS brake conversion, most likely an 8-10mm spacer. I'm opting for the NQSBBK and I can run it behind my BBS CH without spacers, it uses the stock 312mm disc and is about half the price of the Audi TTRS set up but still uses a 4 piston Brembo caliper (from a Porsche). Cheaper in the long run to service too.
I Did consider that as an option but could never find the calipers for a reasonable price. I'll keep an eye on eBay as it sounds like the way forward.
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I am about to fit TTRS brakes to my ed30... Found some ATS Racelight in 19" that clears with 15-20 mm easy!! I have tested OZ Ultraleggera 18" and 19" and the both clears the ttrs calipers! The 18" are tight though...!
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That's a good bit of info there, cheers! Might have to start updating the first post with all this info so it's a one-stop-brake-shop for new guys.
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That's a good bit of info there, cheers! Might have to start updating the first post with all this info so it's a one-stop-brake-shop for new guys.
All this info will be able to be added to the modification library @dazza (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10457) has been working on. Coming soon
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I forgot about that, will have to add bits in there. I'll add in stuff about the OEM 345mm update as I have quite a few handy hints about this kit, having messed up my own installation of it! :P
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15th of November (or maaaybe this next week if Alex gets a free day...) I'm in for the AKS BBK (DB9/TTRS kit) ... behind my stock Interlagos wheels on my Scirocco... I have a set of 12mm spacers laying around but may see if I can pop over to Alex's to work out spacer sizes before hand.
But you can't just space the front, need to do the rear as well.. Fitment, and all of that crap.
Then the weekend after, is off to Darkside! :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
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15th of November (or maaaybe this next week if Alex gets a free day...) I'm in for the AKS BBK (DB9/TTRS kit) ... behind my stock Interlagos wheels on my Scirocco... I have a set of 12mm spacers laying around but may see if I can pop over to Alex's to work out spacer sizes before hand.
But you can't just space the front, need to do the rear as well.. Fitment, and all of that crap.
Then the weekend after, is off to Darkside! :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
ooh DARKSIDE for remap!!!
going down afterxmas to get the hard boost pipes fitted
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old thread revival :grin:
just got myself some s3 calipers and some brembo 340mm disks.
am i best off going for ds2500 pads guys ??? mintex m1144 have been mentioned but i don't want the squeaky brakes.
or just go for OEM and see what i think.???? :thinking:
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ds2500 I found good on these set up! :happy2: