MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: candy turbo on November 01, 2009, 07:36:20 am
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i know loads of us got the catch can in the group buy , i never got round to fitting mine but seem to be reading lots of threads about problems with fitting /using the system , i and i bet many others would like good and bad opinions about it ! :happy2:
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I fitted mine in accordance with my thread, over by the Battery.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7057.0 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7057.0)
Fitting Problems
Whilst I agree that the instructions are not comprehensive enough, they are easily fitted. I elected to fit in a different location, because I wanted to be able to drain without removing the can.
The valve on the bottom is a touch complicated :wink:, as in it works in the opposite sense, and is a left hand thread !
But problems once fitted
Apart from the poor hose clamps - None to date.
Running Problems
None.
I have drained it several times and the 'brown' water that i drained off is better 'out than in'.
I am happy with my can.
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Here's my 2p on the kit.
Basically for the money I can't complain as in general terms it's not a bad bit of kit. However there are one or two issues which let it down in my opinion and these are as follows:
- Not designed for a EU spec vehicle, as a result of this it means that if you wish to attempt to fit the bracket in the suggested location in accordance with the instructions then your working in a very very tight area. As a result of this I've used the small M14 mounting point in front of the battery.
- The supplied P-clip doesn't offer a tight enough fit around the body of the catch can, as a result of this it's had to be packed out to prevent it dropping down, falling out etc.
- The BSH instructions are outdated and don't reflect the way in which the pipes should be orientated from the PVC plate to the catch can.
- Missing parts, just jubilee clips. Nothing major but I wasn't expecting to have to go out and buy bits they stated on the contents they were included in the package.
- The 90 degree tees from the plate and woeful, require filing back to ensure they don't protrude and prevent a seal between the head and plate. They may work but in the long run the threads can easily become cross threaded. As a result of this I'm going to try the following item next week sometime to see if they fit any better http://www.swagelok.com/search/product_detail.aspx?part=SS-6-ME (http://www.swagelok.com/search/product_detail.aspx?part=SS-6-ME).
The plus points are that at the minute there doesn't seem to be any issues with the kit functioning, it's catching oil and containing it. I need to get around to draining it but with the tap it won't be an issue.
Since I've fitted it the car doesn't seem to be as eager to rev and I can only guess that this may be because of a boost leak from either the inlet manifold or from the head, either way I'll get round to sorting it when I try the new fittings.
If it sounds like BSH bashing then thats not what I intended I'm just giving my honest opinion of the kit.
Luke
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I am sure someone advised using a Blue loctite gasket sealant in the connections?
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I can't see the need to, there are enough o-rings and seals in the system to hold the pressure. If someone wants to crack jointing/sealing compound around the connections and risk getting it in their engine then that's their choice but the only loctite I've used is threadlock.
Luke
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the blue loctite is only recommended for use on the threads of the connectors to make a better seal.
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the blue loctite is only recommended for use on the threads of the connectors to make a better seal.
The thread in the plate is a tapered thread and should not need loctite or any other sealant, but it won't harm if you have used it. As Luke reports above, the unions should have really been Metal.
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The thread in the plate is a tapered thread and should not need loctite or any other sealant, but it won't harm if you have used it. As Luke reports above, the unions should have really been Metal.
Actually BSH recommend using blue loctite at assembly.
I think these 90 degree brass connectors are ideal replacements but can find a supplier in the UK.
http://www.hydraulicstore.com/index.php?loc=items_detail&data%5Bhistory%5D=&data%5Bcatalog%5D=1&data%5Bitemcode%5D=1001004
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The thread in the plate is a tapered thread and should not need loctite or any other sealant, but it won't harm if you have used it. As Luke reports above, the unions should have really been Metal.
Actually BSH recommend using blue loctite at assembly.
I think these 90 degree brass connectors are ideal replacements but can find a supplier in the UK.
http://www.hydraulicstore.com/index.php?loc=items_detail&data%5Bhistory%5D=&data%5Bcatalog%5D=1&data%5Bitemcode%5D=1001004
There is some work being done to try to find good metal unions.
Up to BSH, but I didn't the taper has sealed the thread fine.
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http://www.hkl-gaspower.co.uk/default.aspx?p=1357 (http://www.hkl-gaspower.co.uk/default.aspx?p=1357)
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http://www.hkl-gaspower.co.uk/default.aspx?p=1357 (http://www.hkl-gaspower.co.uk/default.aspx?p=1357)
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