MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Markyed30 on December 09, 2014, 07:36:38 pm

Title: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 09, 2014, 07:36:38 pm
Seen the video on Facebook so can't post it here watch the video on her Facebook page search her name no need to add her to watch dirty robbin wan*
Also broke in to car next to it on drive and took items from it, hung about for 20 min apparently  :sad1:

Her fb name is :samantha mccullough-spinks
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: GTi-Andy on December 09, 2014, 08:21:05 pm
chop the c**nts hands off when they catch him
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: StuF on December 09, 2014, 09:01:28 pm
Was it stolen with the keys?
Hard to tell on the video - but it appears he made short work of the ignition and immob if it wasnt with them!
What a twat
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 09, 2014, 09:19:37 pm
She said the police mentioned they used a laptop think that's what u see him taking in to the car, thief had no keys
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: stealthwolf on December 09, 2014, 09:48:49 pm
Isn't this what has been happening to bmw cars?
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: StuF on December 09, 2014, 09:52:53 pm
Guess this fairly old post covers most of it!

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,50080.15.html

Never realised it was that easy!
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: dazza on December 09, 2014, 10:51:00 pm
It looks like he has a key to me. Cant really see when he plugs into the OBD port.



Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 09, 2014, 11:46:32 pm
You can see the laptop open as he walks to the car then puts it on the passenger seat and then plugs something Into the obd and it starts and he drives off
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: xjay1337 on December 10, 2014, 01:04:03 am
Unless I've missed it

at 3.58 in the video he walks up to the car and unlocks it..........

All the lights come on. puddle lights, front/rear the lot... leaving home that is. so I suspect he had a working key but one perhaps that was not coded to the immobilsor?  Perhaps he used one of those frequency catcher thingy-ma-bobs.

Then he fumbles about inside.

Being a pre-2007 car you can easily get tools which can read the cars SKC (immob security code) and reprogram a key or disable the immobilsor alltogether .
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Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on December 10, 2014, 05:20:58 am
The drivers door lock always the weak spot :( He may have visited before got the key number had a key cut then returned with laptop?
Hope it finds it's way home, tempted to de-lock mine
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Dan_FR on December 10, 2014, 07:54:48 am
He obviously had a remote fob to get in, and a pre-cut blade (or a selection of blades) at the very least.

The older pin based immos can be quickly and easily bypassed and coded via OBD, on the older platform cars (ME7/EDC15, even EDC16 which covers a lot of the VAG diesels) you can even buy self-contained devices that plug in and remove the immo via OBD2 in no time at all. Didnt find anything for the ME9 TFSI though, but i didn't look very hard

To me that looked far too quick for a proper read/write of the immo data, so perhaps he had something similar or some kind of emulator?
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Post by: RetroRaz on December 10, 2014, 08:43:38 am
maybe he used a bluetooth device to plug into the OBD and read the immo data , or do you still need ignition on for the OBD port to actually work?
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: xjay1337 on December 10, 2014, 09:51:45 am
maybe he used a bluetooth device to plug into the OBD and read the immo data , or do you still need ignition on for the OBD port to actually work?

The OBD port only works with the ignition on.

As I said, and as Dan said also mentioned, he probably had a remote fob already coded to the car's frequency and must have had some sort of pre-cut key.
I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 10, 2014, 10:22:51 am
Are you sure because when ur installing bluefin it works when it's telling you to cycle threw ignition on and off when programming
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: xjay1337 on December 10, 2014, 12:02:54 pm
Are you sure because when ur installing bluefin it works when it's telling you to cycle threw ignition on and off when programming

use vagcom or vagtacho and try to do anything with the ignition off........

you may need to cycle through ignition to save/reset certain settings this is very normal.
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Dan_FR on December 10, 2014, 12:21:18 pm
Comms are blocked, not 100% whether the power source to the OBD socket is though. Anyone have a multimeter to hand? :)
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Post by: Golf_GT_TDI on December 10, 2014, 02:39:44 pm
He must of had a key already cut or a selection of generic ones or picked it there and then, so he turned ignition on and bypassed immobiliser via obd port?

Should this topic be cleaned up a bit or are we ok leaving it public?
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: xjay1337 on December 10, 2014, 03:09:14 pm
It's fine to discuss

But people need to present the information more accurately.
Clearly the thief was in possession of SOME keys.
You can steal any car pretty much if you had a set of keys which worked to get the ignition on but not start the car as you can get tools to reprogram immo for most manufacturers.
Not really a big deal IMO.
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: Markyed30 on December 10, 2014, 04:43:31 pm
Sorry when I said without keys I ment the pair the women had for the car not saying he's not got a full set  ect shizzle all the same  :sick:
Title: Re: mk5 gti stolen without keys obd port :(
Post by: garrardrj on December 10, 2014, 04:48:33 pm
I think the thief has got a cloned key (Some friendly vw source or similar who has given him the key from index plate and chassis number) and he has programmed it (Don't know how they do it) by his trips backwards and forwards to the door .


Watch the video but just watch the alarm light and how it is very inconsistent ?? It also looks like the alarm light is not so bright some of the time too . It stops and starts like something is interfering with the ?signal? or whatever causes it to flash ?? Watch the light flashes in conjunction with the mans movements too .

The last time he comes back to the car he knows the door is open (the alarm light last flashed at 3.31m and he opens door at 3.59m he walks straight up to it without putting anything in the door lock and opens it , just like you would if you opened it with your remote . He definitely has a key as he is able to start the car and undo the steering lock with no force , this is impossible without a key .

So another question ... how do you programme a cloned key to fit the car ?