MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:00:54 pm
ok so i have a pretty standard 2004 mk5 golf tdi sitting outside. its been remapped by previous owner but not much else done to it.

Now heres the list of changes to come

race seats
harnesses and harness bar
roll cage
sound system upgrade
air induction kit
turbo upgrade
egr/egr delete
new pipework across the board
milltech exhaust system
body kit
respray
hatch pop mod
carbon fiber upgrades.
clutch and flywheel upgrades
R32 or better brakes.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:11:54 pm
okay so first of all i wanted to get the sound system done and out of the way so i have something to listen to when working on other stuff.

so i went with the following parts.

edge 750w active subwoofer
FLI component 225w speakers for front and rear doors
FLI 800watt amplifier
FLI 4 gauge wiring kit and 8 gauge wiring kit
4 to 8 gauge wiring kit
custom made switches for sound system*
standard RNS510 head unit
splice connectors
dual line out converters

* i got annoyed looking fora switched live.

I havent installed the drivers door speaker and tweeter as of yet, so in the video below the initial music is from the stock speaker.

i couldnt really find an easily available switched live for the amps so i made up some switches with leds and used on of the button blanking plates below ashtray to install them in. i added leds for a visual reminder they are on. its tied into the live and negative of the cigarette/accesory socket.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2a9v68y.jpg&hash=5302678b75830c426fb3206ec98dc7d7e43256fb)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2qbw4nb.jpg&hash=2cdd5620176e3a7c6cee4ad71d459d18a773095a)

left switch is for the subwoofer
right switch is for the speakers amplifier

3s44g

heres the subwoofer

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1901s7.jpg&hash=ca402d21d305fbf5a8508b5481c11375c20589a4)

and speakers

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F35aw5rr.jpg&hash=63e4f16cdf4b1025fba604526b81fa7382c92377)
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:20:54 pm
Next was the race seats, they're being used with the standard seat belts at the moment as the harness bar doesnt ship till feb and comes in from the states as i couldnt find anyone in the uk that does them.

These where actually a real pain in the arse to fit, i ordered the seats and subframes from FK automotive and the subframes fit the car but not the seat, they said they dont make the subframes to fit the seats....er...what?

well anyone, i decided to make my own sub frames from 1" side and 5mm thick hot rolled steel. they are bolt assembled but will be welded up and powercoated eventually.

heres a few snap shops of the seats installed as i didnt intend on a project thread while making the frames so didnt photograph it as i built them.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2d826j5.jpg&hash=83c9848113d18a36cabe2e71944769f60e4d925e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F30m3500.jpg&hash=b65c757eab73b9b120cd9af846c028655f80427b)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2h3vek0.jpg&hash=2f8409fb7c45e9dbdd24fd3d0f61cf0ac4768030)

as you can see the internal lighting has been changed over to led blue as well. theres also blue led strips in the foot wells, looking to have the vagcom changed to have the footwell lights on with ignition so they'll be on anytime the car is.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:25:31 pm
i've put these on order

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motionperformance.co.uk%2Fimages%2Flrg%2FSparco%2520Traliccio%2520Gear%2520Knob.jpg&hash=79dc5d4cf26c1ac7dda36c4bbb03b73e98705385)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.esellerpro.com%2F2347%2FI%2F106%2F74%2Flrg102217.jpg&hash=bd66acd4642f670e4bbc9303ef9465535c05e047)

Along with a pipercross viper intake system.

The intake system has a carbon fiber heat shield in the pipe work to keep the air cool. will see how it does when it gets installed really.

Next on the list of purchases is a carbon fiber hood and aerocatch hood pin mechanisms.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 30, 2014, 09:33:39 pm
Are the pedals going to fit? The accelerator pedal comes from the floor doesnt it?
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:38:35 pm
not entirely sure, if not i can always modify the stock accelerator pedal to accept this one.

if it needs modding then it'll be pretty simple to get it to fit with the right angle. they are out of stock form where they was ordered at the moment so will take a while before they arrive annoyingly. only informed it was out of stock AFTER the purchase was made.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: dom069 on December 30, 2014, 09:52:43 pm
Are you actually planning on tracking the car?
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 09:54:36 pm
now thats the question isnt it?

my mate has a vauxhal astra VXR and we decided we'll pit our cars and driving ability to the test when the golf is done. so yeah.

if your asking about the roll cage and harness bar, they are more of a safety thing than for tracking. too many idiots on the road.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 30, 2014, 10:50:48 pm
GTI pedals would be the better option.

Wheres the roll cage coming from?
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 10:53:40 pm
havent decided on which roll cage yet. i dont really want one due to the weight but with harnesses and a harness bar might as well
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: xjay1337 on December 30, 2014, 11:02:17 pm
I would go for GTI pedals as well IMO. GTI pedals are what are used in the VW Cup cars.. Jetta/Scirocco/Golf etc.
Won't work anyway because floor mounted.
not a fan of the seats personally but look forward to seeing the rest of the build progress. have some nice ideas.  :drinking:

would personally have not spent any money on the intake bearing in mind that the factory air box is not restrictive at all, could be dollar towards something else. looks nice normally never the less.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 11:10:28 pm
money isnt a problem for this. also the intake is lighter than the stock air filter also the air reaching the intake should be cooler.

the seats...they was chosen for cost and weight until i can order the actual seats i want for the car. want to install momo daytona evo's in the front. 9.5kg without the subframes. these seats i currently have are about 11/12kg. either way FAR lighter together than a single stock seat lol.

the ordered pedals will work just fine with a little modification to the stock accelerator pedal
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: xjay1337 on December 30, 2014, 11:13:49 pm
okay.... just because you have lots of money to spend doesn't mean you need to change everything "just because".
IE the intake, no gains (this is very well proven) but probably a couple of hundred?

good luck anyway man!
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 11:19:02 pm
the intake will have a collective gain. one peice of a jigsaw.

I've got an aim to reduce the weight of the car to a set amount. but given performance upgrades and safety parts, i.e roll cage and harness bar, i need to change some things that may give no power increase, but a weight reduction to compensate for the added weight of the safety parts.

so say you reduce the cars weight to 1000kg but then have to add 200kg in roll cage and harness bar, you swap out the hood and boot for carbon fiber, remove rear seats, change the intake for a lighter one and other bits n bobs and the collective weight reduction will being you back to the desired weight.

thats the main reason, that and noise lol.

performance isnt just raw power, its many things. weight is another one of those things.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: Andy on December 30, 2014, 11:21:42 pm
You also need to change the brakes on the car
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 30, 2014, 11:27:32 pm
brakes clutch and flywheel are on the list.

looking at the R32 brakes or better.

im also looking into hydraulic handbrake, found a company that is manufacturing them but not available just yet.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: Shoduchi on December 31, 2014, 12:05:11 am
Don't go for the R32 brakes if you're worried with weight. I fit the front brakes and they're heavy.  :wink:

For my needs their stopping power is more than enough, though. :smiley:

Happy modding! :drinking:
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 31, 2014, 12:09:12 am
thanks for heads up, can you recommend any good lighter brakes?
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: Shoduchi on December 31, 2014, 12:22:36 am
Depends on your budget and how handy or how long you're willing to wait to get all the parts needed to assemble a good BBK.

You have good BBK in the Mod Catalogue: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?page=mods&cat=20

I wouldn't mind having one of these if I had a better setup or engine:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?page=mods&mod=20
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?page=mods&mod=54
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 31, 2014, 12:26:20 am
wow good few grand there then. quick search for brembo from a porche is 2/3 grand.

will be worth it though.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: Shoduchi on December 31, 2014, 12:31:40 am
Getting the whole kit can be (much) more expensive but it'll save you a lot of trouble on getting the needed parts all together.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: dansmith180 on December 31, 2014, 01:03:58 am
I switched my R32 setup to the TTRS 4pots for just over £1000, I have 340mm TTS discs so theyre as light as you can get without spending a lot on 2 piece discs.

This setup is about 4kg lighter per corner than the R32's.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on December 31, 2014, 01:05:40 am
sweet will look into those as well.

thanks.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: xjay1337 on December 31, 2014, 09:43:53 am
TTRS/DB9 brakes, hel braided lines
Slotted rotors
Pagid RS4-2 pads
Braided lines
new fluid all round
The kit without fluid or fitting is £1200. best bang for your buck and very cheap really. very very light.

need solid or uprated wishbone bushes too...super pro ball joints, subframe spacer kit
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on January 02, 2015, 09:39:36 pm
TTRS/DB9 brakes, hel braided lines
Slotted rotors
Pagid RS4-2 pads
Braided lines
new fluid all round
The kit without fluid or fitting is £1200. best bang for your buck and very cheap really. very very light.

need solid or uprated wishbone bushes too...super pro ball joints, subframe spacer kit

is that the kit from the mods section? if so how do you go about getting one as i'll get the brakes sorted first up.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: xjay1337 on January 03, 2015, 07:26:40 pm
Alex at AKS.

01234 82 23 24.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: dom069 on January 03, 2015, 08:00:08 pm
So you're worrying about the weight of intakes, yet add a load of audio gear in the boot? Don't get me wrong, I'm not wanting to come across is being critical, but that doesn't make any sense to me.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on January 03, 2015, 08:04:50 pm
highlight points.

remove weight
additional weight can be added back in through other accessories.
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: Jcarroll on January 03, 2015, 10:57:46 pm
So confused by this thread but good luck, always happy to watch a build - especially when the aim is the beat a VXR!!
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 04, 2015, 10:38:44 am
How much do intakes weigh? Standard and aftermarket?
Title: Re: 2l tdi mk5 project.
Post by: ryder2012 on January 04, 2015, 06:33:40 pm
How much do intakes weigh? Standard and aftermarket?

i'll weigh the pipercross viper when it arrives. cant weigh the stock as it wont be installed till i have the rest of the parts for the project as everything gets done at one go.