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Title: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 09:08:04 am
I know the difference is in the Catch Can...

But is the Stage 2 much more of an advantage?! I'm just not too confident I'll remember to keep emptying my Can, so thinking about selling the Stage 2 and buying a Stage 1!!!
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: cuprak1 on November 20, 2009, 09:17:59 am
IIRC it was advised to just empty can everytime you change the oil ;) so i think you would remember ?

i would stick with the stage 2 mate, seems a lot more practical
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 09:21:22 am
IIRC it was advised to just empty can everytime you change the oil ;) so i think you would remember ?

i would stick with the stage 2 mate, seems a lot more practical

From what I'm reading the Can will fill up quicker the more you are in higher revs (Not that I'll be sitting at 6500rpm), but this does mean the can could fill up and I'll not know or remember...

I'm just wondering Stage 1 vs Stage 2, is there an actual advantage?! I mean does the Stage 2 help the engine even more than the Stage 1 or isnt there much of a difference?!

Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: bacillus on November 20, 2009, 09:29:06 am
stage 1 = fit and forget but your intake valves will be subject to depositation of crud from the oil vapours to the same extent as having the oem pcv.

stage 2 = more protection from deposits on your intake valves but you need to empty the can ever so often dependoing on your driving style, time of year ang what oil you're using.
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 09:40:17 am
stage 1 = fit and forget but your intake valves will be subject to depositation of cdud from the oil vapours to the same extent as having the oem pcv.

stage 2 = more protection from deposits on your intake valves but you need to empty the can ever so often dependoing on your driving style, time of year ang what oil you're using.

icic...

Yeah I'm just not too keen on the emptying part LOL!

So I'm guessing that Stage 1 have advantages over Stock...and Stage 2 has advantages over Stage 1, but Stage 1 has the advantage over Stage 2 when it comes to being able to "fit and forget"?!
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: bacillus on November 20, 2009, 09:45:43 am
Yes stage 1 will put to an end any loss of boost from a leaking oem pcv.
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 09:51:19 am
Yes stage 1 will put to an end any loss of boost from a leaking oem pcv.

Thanks matey!

Think the Stage 1 is probably more suited to me really! I want to see the advantages, but not have to remember to empty the can, or more so, have the fear of it filling up before I've emptied it (end of the day is a guessing game right?)
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: Bogwoppit on November 20, 2009, 11:22:06 am
If you get the high capacity catch can then it has a dipstick so you can check the level.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FOctavia_vRS%2FCatch_Can%2FP1030402.jpg&hash=cdf9e297319d63db402ec60970c1a99cf8dd5f87)
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 11:24:54 am
If you get the high capacity catch can then it has a dipstick so you can check the level.

For some reason I read your message as is read..."If you get the high capacity catch can then you dipstick"  :signLOL:

Yeah I guess so...
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: Greeners on November 20, 2009, 11:31:16 am
If you modify your car in any way this will increase the regular maintenance you should carry out. I for one have no issue with this but if you do you should think carefully before modding.  :happy2:

It's a two minute job to empty the can and at most you will need to do this every few months.  :smiley:
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: t20lau on November 20, 2009, 11:35:37 am
If you modify your car in any way this will increase the regular maintenance you should carry out. I for one have no issue with this but if you do you should think carefully before modding.  :happy2:

It's a two minute job to empty the can and at most you will need to do this every few months.  :smiley:

Point taken...

I'll see how it goes! Not 100% sure still!

There are Pro's and Con's to both IMO, and for my personal use!
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: BMX on November 20, 2009, 12:21:28 pm
i have fitted the latest oem pcv and it is holding the remap boost presure perfectly its the revision L the one i removed was F
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: bacillus on November 20, 2009, 01:16:14 pm
fwiw if you install the stage 1 fix, you can upgrade at a later date to stage 2 with catch can without having to purchase the full stage 2 dedicated kit. This upgrade kit is cheaper than the dedicated stage 2 kit.
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: RedRobin on November 20, 2009, 05:33:58 pm
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@ Bogwoppit:

In your Reply #7 you've posted a pic which very clearly shows a nice adjustable fixing ring. Did it come from BSH or elsewhere?

Thanks  :happy2:
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: QD MBE on November 20, 2009, 05:45:20 pm
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@ Bogwoppit:

In your Reply #7 you've posted a pic which very clearly shows a nice adjustable fixing ring. Did it come from BSH or elsewhere?

Thanks  :happy2:

Mr Red,

I have that can, and the retaining ring in the pic, is supplied by BSH.
 :happy2:
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: Bogwoppit on November 20, 2009, 05:46:19 pm
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@ Bogwoppit:

In your Reply #7 you've posted a pic which very clearly shows a nice adjustable fixing ring. Did it come from BSH or elsewhere?

Thanks  :happy2:

Do you mean the clamp that holds the catch can? If so it came with the kit, all I did was put some rubber between the can and the clamp to prevent scratching.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FOctavia_vRS%2FCatch_Can%2FP1030405.jpg&hash=92ded917efc2cc00fe900bb141e7fa9d17997949)
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: RedRobin on November 20, 2009, 06:23:05 pm
^^^^
Thanks stokeballoon and Bogwoppit (both crazy names, eh!).

Dave, I'm trying to phone ya..
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: QD MBE on November 20, 2009, 06:32:13 pm
^^^^
Thanks stokeballoon and Bogwoppit (both crazy names, eh!).

Dave, I'm trying to phone ya..

Phone in the car, and still behind the desk!

Call you in 30mins?
 :happy2:
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: RedRobin on November 20, 2009, 06:44:44 pm
^^^^
Thanks stokeballoon and Bogwoppit (both crazy names, eh!).

Dave, I'm trying to phone ya..

Phone in the car, and still behind the desk!

Call you in 30mins?
 :happy2:


....No prob - Best on my landline (# on your voicemail) - Am in all evening.  :happy2:
Title: Re: BSH PCV Stage 1 vs Stage 2...
Post by: Deako on November 26, 2009, 04:00:02 pm
stage 1 = fit and forget but your intake valves will be subject to depositation of crud from the oil vapours to the same extent as having the oem pcv.


What??? No they wont. This isnt the same as the Eurojet PCV fit with an uprated check valve. It compeltely removese the pipe going to the inlet manifold.