MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: broke. on December 18, 2008, 11:48:49 pm
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I have just acquired a mk5 golf gti (05) i am looking to fit eibach sportlines. the car is currently on 17" monza's but looking to fit 18's at the same time i fit the sportlines.
are there any pics of mk5 gti's with the sportlines fitted? 17's or 18's will be fine.
Thanks in advance :happy2:
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I believe the Rim King's car is fitted with the said springs: -
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and so is Robmkv car
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=257.0
and mine will be in a few weeks :wink:
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thanks for the responses guys :happy2:
would 17's be too low do we think? anybody fitted the sportline's with 17's?
Mat, have i seen your car around leeds?
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thanks for the responses guys :happy2:
would 17's be too low do we think? anybody fitted the sportline's with 17's?
Mat, have i seen your car around leeds?
yes you will have i am over leeds all the time :smiley: you from leeds?
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wakefield matey :confused:
i'm thinking about going for less of a drop, maybe 15mm and keeping with 17's just changing the wheel. anybody recommend an springs that will lower a genuine 15-20mm? i know the pro kit did but i believe thats been stopped in production now.
KW -20mm £122.34
Eibach Pro -10/15mm £136.85
Weitech -20mm £112.55
leaning towards the KW kit at the moment but not ordering until early jan so gunna have a good think.
Tom
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there has been a price increase from eibach pro but try these guys as they may have them still in stock and they are the cheapest about at the mo for springs :happy2:
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/
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thanks mate, appreciate that. just on the link now...
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Folks, need some advice...
Fitted Eibach Sportline springs on my Golf GTi (DSG). Car was only a month old when the new ones were installed. Ever since then I get an occasional rubbing/thud noise when going round corners or bumpy roads.
The noise appears to emanate only from the driver side (UK right hand drive car).
Contacted Eibach and they have said they have never experienced this problem. After much discussion, and the fact the car was literally brand new - they offered to provide a replacement set, fitted free of charge.
After going through the hassle of getting a new set fitted the problem is still there
What could it be, and why is it just the one side? Is this to be expected with the Eibach Sportline kit? Has anyone else had similar experiences with the sportline kit? Any suggestions what else I could check?
Before anyone says, I only weigh 76Kg.
I should mention...the noise only started after I had the Eibach springs installed. I have thought about taking the car to my local dealership - but I have had a far from acceptable experience from them.
I expect them to say that the problem is as a result of having after market installed springs - even though the Eibach ones are better. They will probably try to squirm out of any potential work/warranty claim...
The occasional knock/scrub noise definitely emanates from the front driver side wheel...it happens when I turn to the left firmly or go over a speed hump at moderate speeds - basically stuff which normally did not cause a problem before.
I'd be interested from anyone with Eibach sportline springs - and know if they have had similar problems - or what it might be.
Thanks,
Mo
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mojo, you should try removing the arch screw on the driver's side and tucking the plastic liner behind the screw hole.
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i thought that simply just upgrading the springs without shox was a no no?
something of an impression i got from reading through threads :confused:
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i thought that simply just upgrading the springs without shox was a no no?
something of an impression i got from reading through threads :confused:
You can do it safely with springs that don't lower the car much like the eibach pro's but the shocks may not last as long.
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as bacillus says, remove the liner screw and tuck the liner up behind the tab to hold it in place, that should fix it :happy2:
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Thanks guys...
Not sure what you mean by the liner screw and where the tab is. Can some one please elaborate?
I've had a look and can see there is a single screw which holds the plastic housing in the wheel arch.
P.S. With the screw removed won't that leave the bits to move around at high speed?
Regards,
Mo
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Glad to see you made it here, Mo :happy2:
Sooner or later peeps here will get you helped.
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Who wants some Eibach Pro-Kit springs? I've got some for sale (not advertised yet).
Am only selling them because I now have VWR-KW-V3 suspension.
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Thanks guys...
Not sure what you mean by the liner screw and where the tab is. Can some one please elaborate?
I've had a look and can see there is a single screw which holds the plastic housing in the wheel arch.
P.S. With the screw removed won't that leave the bits to move around at high speed?
Regards,
Mo
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10909
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Thanks for the intro RedRobin. Marked you for the referral - not sure what it does though.
Got a couple of questions about your mods - since you're a bit more progressed in your modding pursuits. What's the best way to contact you? I'm particularly interested about the Quiffe differential and REVO2.
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My email is listed on my Profile, as is yours - I'll email ya.
Meanwhile, I wrote a review of the Quaife here : - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=651.0
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If you had more than 10 posts you could PM him... :smiley:
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Who wants some Eibach Pro-Kit springs? I've got some for sale (not advertised yet).
Am only selling them because I now have VWR-KW-V3 suspension.
i might be interested in your springs red , how much you looking for ? could you keep hold of them till the next meet ? cheers
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Who wants some Eibach Pro-Kit springs? I've got some for sale (not advertised yet).
Am only selling them because I now have VWR-KW-V3 suspension.
i might be interested in your springs red , how much you looking for ? could you keep hold of them till the next meet ? cheers
....You're the third person to ask. I'll work out a price on Monday when I know what they cost new and PM you to update what the situation is. Out of fairness I must take each enquiry in the sequence they came.
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Out of fairness I must take each enquiry in the sequence they came.
No chance of gazumping here then?? :smiley:
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Out of fairness I must take each enquiry in the sequence they came.
No chance of gazumping here then?? :smiley:
....Nope! I'm not that kind of guy. Do unto others as you would have done to you etc.
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dunno if this will help mojo, but i have just fitted -20mm KW springs but i'm wanting lower. can't afford coilovers just yet and to be honest springs are fine for me. could swap the springs over? helps us both out. no worries if not.
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broke, thank you for extending the offer to swap springs.
The thought of going to a garage to get the springs changed again and the alignment checked...is a bit too much for me at the moment.
I'm generally happy with the Eibach springs - just want to get to the bottom of the occasional rubbing noise.
I'm hoping someone will explain in a bit more detail how to do the liner screw and the tab fix (mentioned a couple of posts earlier). :signIWS:
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I'm hoping someone will explain in a bit more detail how to do the liner screw and the tab fix (mentioned a couple of posts earlier). :signIWS:
Did you not see the DIY link I posted above?
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10909
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Thanks BACILLUS, very useful.
Just got to buy myself a Torx kit and try it out. The alternative would be to put a 10mm or less spacer above the springs. I do remember when the springs were being changed that we didn't need to compress the springs - they just slotted in.
I'll give the liner screw thing a whirl... but I'd be keen to hear the pros and cons of adding a spacer to the spring.
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I'd be keen to hear the pros and cons of adding a spacer to the spring.
....I'm not an expert in such matters (though I know a man who is!) but I'd be very concerned about the spacer's behaviour under load. Springs are very carefully designed and their length is a consideration. My VWR-KW-V3 coilover springs are longer than stock KW-V3's and their rating and length has been consciously arrived at through development.
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OK, if I get this right the general impression is that spacers are a no, no!
Just got off the phone with Eibach and they are bemused by my scrubbing problem. They have told me they have sold over 80 of the specific sportline springs (last year) with not a single customer coming back enquiring about the scrubbing noise.
RedRobin/Bacillus: I take it you have your cars lowered by a fair margin. Do you get the occasional scrubbing/thud when driving enthusiastically?
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Even with standard suspension, the front tyres could rub against those screw heads on hard cornering with a bumpy road. Lowering the car just "exagerates" the problem.
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OK, if I get this right the general impression is that spacers are a no, no!
RedRobin/Bacillus: I take it you have your cars lowered by a fair margin. Do you get the occasional scrubbing/thud when driving enthusiastically?
....I don't know enough to be able to say that spacers are a no-no, but was only suggesting that I would expect them to be a no-no until someone can convince otherwise.
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^ Yes I'm lowered but have only experienced 'the rub' on extreme tight corners like a very small roundabout when entering them a tad too fast - So I'll be asking Mark at VWR to sort out my screw heads when I'm next there. Otherwise she's incredibly well planted as you would expect on my setup.
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My wheels just scrubbed against the wheel arches again today. :sad: Front and back this time!!! Damn this is driving me crazy.
Took my car to TTShop in Bedford (thanks for the lead RedRobin). Very friendly and helpful. They had a look on the ramp and nothing obvious struck out apart from that they thought the car looked particularly low.
They've taken photos and measurements and sent these to Eibach. Let's see what they come back with... Am I the only one suffering this wretched issue???? :rolleye:
I also found out that the R32 side skirts have been increased to £188+VAT each when they previously were £50 a pop. Anyone know where I can get primed side skirts and the OSIR front lip spoiler on the cheap? :driver:
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ive got the sportlines and never had a single problem
and with regards to the side skirts. the r32 ones have never been that cheap.
the gti ones are the cheaper ones, they are still about 50/quid a side.
the GTI and R32 ones are exactly the same in terms of shape. the difference is, the r32 ones are smooth and primed. the GTI ones come as the black textured plastic as seen on the lower gti bumper
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get your tape measure out, these 18''
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this one coming home from france full tank, loaded top box, boot full of wine, half seat folded loaded to roof.
no rubbing
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ive got the sportlines and never had a single problem
and with regards to the side skirts. the r32 ones have never been that cheap.
the gti ones are the cheaper ones, they are still about 50/quid a side.
the GTI and R32 ones are exactly the same in terms of shape. the difference is, the r32 ones are smooth and primed. the GTI ones come as the black textured plastic as seen on the lower gti bumper
jay
not being picky, ED30 & R32 are same, gti has a line in the moulding at rear by back wheel
bill
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oh really??
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not good shot, just been outside, like this J
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Took my car to TTShop in Bedford (thanks for the lead RedRobin). Very friendly and helpful.
I also found out that the R32 side skirts have been increased to £188+VAT each when they previously were £50 a pop. Anyone know where I can get primed side skirts and the OSIR front lip spoiler on the cheap? :driver:
....IIRC, TTshop got me my R32 sides (no line in the moulding) for about £50 and the price at the time was similar from my VW dealer.
I assume you mean the whole OSIR front spoiler. I've got just a carbonfibre centre section I could sell. If you come across a front spoiler like mine, make sure you ask whether it's a fibreglass or plastic version. The latest plastic ones are claimed to be more durable, though my fibreglass one is doing alright so far.
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OK folks... just to help with with my depression :sad: regarding the scrubbing wheels I got myself a complete set of R32 rear lights. :smiley:
Does anyone have a guide (for dummies) with pics on how to fit these? I had a peak at where the bolts are and they dont seem easily accessible...
Coming back to the occasional wheel scrubbing problem... had a bit of a wild thought, but worth asking just in case... :driver: Could I potentially adjust the ride height by adjusting the stock shocks, or is there anything else I could do to make the ride a few mm higher?
Thanking in advance...
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^ Your code shows that this is your front measurement ^
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^ And this is your rear measurement ^
But are these measurements "after" loading for your trip or after new suspension?
Mine are 70mm at rear and 80mm at front with the VWR-KW-V3 setup.
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ta red
didnt really take note which was which, them pics where taken after id fitted them from new, after kwik drive to settle.
i think theyve since sagged, when it was packed for france it was even lower.
bill
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OK folks... just to help with with my depression :sad: regarding the scrubbing wheels I got myself a complete set of R32 rear lights. :smiley:
Does anyone have a guide (for dummies) with pics on how to fit these? I had a peak at where the bolts are and they dont seem easily accessible...
Coming back to the occasional wheel scrubbing problem... had a bit of a wild thought, but worth asking just in case... :driver: Could I potentially adjust the ride height by adjusting the stock shocks, or is there anything else I could do to make the ride a few mm higher?
:laugh:
In regards to your new lights, they are easy to do just a bit fiddly, you need a small 10 mil spanner. :happy2:
And also guys in regard's to the side skirts, i believe VW have put the prices to the correct price now, as the whole of the UK where getting them way under priced for ages. Somebody dropped a bollock somewhere.
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Got my R32 lights fitted. Took me an hour, guess that's not too bad for some one who has never touched a spanner!!! :rolleye:
Q1) Just trying to figure out how to get my photos posted. Got them uploaded on MSN Photos...but can't seem to get them to appear in a post. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Q2) I'm considering on installing either the Pro-Kit or Koni FSD shocks to eliminate/reduce the occasional scrubbing of my wheels (that is after removing my current Sportline springs :sad:). I guess the Pro-Kit is not as low as the Sportlines and this may help, not too sure about the Koni FSDs... Can anyone suggest which option would be a safer/better bet in resolving the scrubbing wheel issue?
P.S. I really do want to keep my Sportlines...so my preference would be to go for the Koni FSDs is they help.
Q3) In layman terms, can some one explain what's so great about the Koni FSDs? Checked Koni's website and it's full of technical jargon that's beyond my non-modding brain.
P.S/ Sorry to have to ask so many questions...
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Q3) In layman terms, can some one explain what's so great about the Koni FSDs? Checked Koni's website and it's full of technical jargon that's beyond my non-modding brain.
....There is invariably a conflict/compromise between have harder dampers for better handling and softer for more comfort.
The KoniFSD's have clever hydraulics, not electronics, which smartly and dynamically react to the road surface and instantly adjust their own hardness/softness. So you get the best of both worlds.....But not without limitations.
Having done about 50k miles on FSD's before they failed, I would recommend them as a good mod for road use and one which won't upset a typical wife as passenger.
However, having graduated to a more hardcore suspension, I now don't care two sh!ts about my passenger's comfort because the full-blooded hard suspension delivers awesome handling and pleasure for me, the driver.
It's horses for courses and depends what you want to achieve and how much money you're prepared to spend.
HTH :happy2:
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Q3) In layman terms, can some one explain what's so great about the Koni FSDs? Checked Koni's website and it's full of technical jargon that's beyond my non-modding brain.
P.S/ Sorry to have to ask so many questions...
Hi Mojo, I've got FSD's on my GTI with Eibach pro springs. The ride is a little firmer than stock, but the handling is really sharpened up. I would say the FSD's are not quite as good as some make out at ironing out the bumps at low speed, ( I even heard talk of improving the ride quality) but as Robin says they are an excellent compromise.
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Adding Anti-roll Bars will help a lot.
It's a slippery slope! :evilgrin:
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Sorry, help a lot with what?
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Will help your car's handling. Isn't that why you are considering this Eibach Sportline mod? :surprised:
Sorry but are you not aware of what Anti-roll Bars do?
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Regards the knocking your experiencing Mojo have the front tie bar bolts that connect to the anti roll bar checked cos when i put the fk coilovers on mine i didn't tighten the bolt tight enough and it banged about quite alot. Even if it feels tight enough it needs to be to the correct torque otherwise it will move about in the hole.
Hope ya get it sorted
Darren
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Very useful to know, Darren :happy2: 8) :happy2:
I remember back in early 2006 (when you could get a bag of sweets for sixpence) writing that the KoniFSD's didn't get rid of the bumps but that they softened their edges.
Although mine failed after about 50k miles and Koni gave me back my money, I would buy them again (the current later version) unless I wanted the more hardcore coilovers (which I am extremely happy with).
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^^ They do definitely soften the bumps. I find them quite unpredictable though. Sometimes I'll see something like a slightly raised manhole cover and think" this should be ok" :smiley: only to be treated to a jarring bump. :surprised: Then other times I'll catch sight of a pothole quite late, so brace myself for the impact :scared: and the Konis damp them out with no drama. :smiley:
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Hi mortygttdi, thanks for the tip. Can you explain in a bit more details which bolt you mention - so I can get it checked out straight away.
I don't seem to recollect the guys having to unbolt the ARBs...in any case i will get them examined, plus what is the correct torque/tightening setting for the bolt?
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Mojo where the yellow circles are this is the tie rod and one side goes onto the strut and the other like in the picture goes to the anti roll bar circled in red I think they need to be torqued upto 70nm but not positive.
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Thank you very much... I will get these checked...
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and so is Robmkv car
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=257.0
and mine will be in a few weeks :wink:
have you had your springs fitted yet mate ? waiting for pics !!!! :laugh: