MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Members Rides => Topic started by: Ricky123 on June 20, 2015, 04:11:57 pm
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Just thought I'd post a couple of pictures of the one I've just bought. Someone on here may have owned it some point?
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It's got an engine issue at the moment but once I've sorted that then plans are Bigger intercooler (unsure what to go for yet) auto tech pump internals, cat back exhaust or suitcase delete pipe? Then mapping at R tech for now. Will want to do more in the future, Probably keep the exterior as it is, possibly add wind deflectors and ed30/r32 rear lights.
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Nice looking car mate! :wink:
Go for the S3 intercooler, it's cheap and does the job. :happy2:
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Thanks, what's needed for stage 2/2+??
Is the s3 intercooler fine for that setup?
I'll be getting the cylinder head off next week so will post some more pics up.
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I use that intercooler on my stage 2+ K04 Cupra, you can feel a slight decrease in power in hot summer days, here in Bucharest we get over 35 degrees Celsius. But this is rare, and in UK you'll be fine.
For stage 2-2+ you need 4 things, S3 intercooler, LOBA/APR/Autotech HPFP, Exhaust, cold air intake. But then you will feel the need for bigger brakes (Cupra/S3 with a good pad to start), and better suspension.
Cheers! :drinking:
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Paintwork looks lovely! Shame it doesn't last long on black cars though.
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Thanks :smiley: I'll keep it clean :happy2:
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Started the strip down today
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Inlet manifold removal is quite fiddly. Not to much left to do, hopefully have it off on Wednesday when I've got abit more time.
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Couple of intake valve shots. This engine has covered 98,000 miles, I'm guessing they've never been cleaned.
Hopefully should feel some sort of difference when the head is de-coked.
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Not had chance to do anything else to golf yet... My transit broke down yesterday with suspected injector failure and as I need that for work the golf will be taking a back seat for the next few days :(
Stuck using my GSXR but atleast the weather is good! Hopefully have the rest of the engine stripped sometime over weekend and see what lurks inside. Keeping my fingers crossed for a cheap fix lol
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Bad news Ricky. At least you'll save some time with the GSXR. :jumping:
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Well got the head off today and this is what lurked inside...
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It looks as though something has gone inside and got trapped as there's some light denting to the top of the piston and obviously the liner is nackered
Don't no what to do from here :confused:
Rebuild? Would involving boring out and larger Pistons
Try and get a new liner put in cylinder one?
Second hand engine?
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I would go the second-hand route like you're looking into in the for sale section - taking into account the AXX heads seem to be requested after on both this site and eBay.
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I'd prefer to try and get a bottom end first but I think that's going to be easier said than done as I've only seen one for sale.
My head has just had a new chain kit too but I could swap it over if I get a complete engine. There's other bits on this motor id want to swap to another and it's had quite a few new parts.
Can't believe how much people want for engines!
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Quick update...
I've bought a bottom end. It's a 48k BWA lump, not saw it yet I've left a deposit on PayPal and going to collect it tomorrow from Sheffield. Hopeing it's fine when I get there.
Is there anything that people recommend to change while the engines stripped before I put it back in the car?
So far my list is:
Cambelt kit
Water pump
Head gasket kit
Head set
Probably thinking I should throw a clutch kit in while its apart
Don't need a cam follower, pcv or DV as they were new about 2 months ago. Also had new plugs at the same time.
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Thermostat would be added to my list along with ultrasonic cleaning of the injectors.
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Thermostat would be added to my list
Yep I'll add it to mine, that's why is always a good idea to ask :happy2: nice one
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Keep us updated of the rebuild. I dread the day my AXX sh*ts the bed.
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I'll keep posting pictures and stuff... Leaving to go and get the bottom end in an hour.
Are there any recommendations as to where to get parts from?
I've been looking at prices and stuff, I don't fancy throwing the cheap stuff on but on the other hand my budget it shrinking.
I was thinking:
Genuine water pump
Continental cambelt kit
Thermostat - GSF or Euro car parts
Head gasket kit and head bolts - Not sure where to get them from yet
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The bottom end I've just picked up for an absolute steal!
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Nice did u get the top piece for the belt cover? I've just replaced my one piece with a two piece cover which should make my next cam belt change slightly easier.
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Nope unfortunately I didn't, still got the one piece cover of my old lump so I'll just have to stick that back on
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Nope unfortunately I didn't, still got the one piece cover of my old lump so I'll just have to stick that back on
I wouldn't it's worth looking for the cover as two pieces if your keeping the car!
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U maybe lucky a member on here may have one floating about.
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Nope unfortunately I didn't, still got the one piece cover of my old lump so I'll just have to stick that back on
I wouldn't it's worth looking for the cover as two pieces if your keeping the car!
I think I've only kept one car over a year in my life lol I'm pretty bad when it comes to swapping and changing. My Mrs actually said I need to go and see someone lol
In February this year I bought a mk5 gti pretty much the same as this one, got rid of that for a 2006 Astra vxr then got rid of that for a 2007 Ford Focus ST then got rid of that for a 2005 BMW X5 then sold that and bought a couple of different motorbikes, got bored or them and brought an Impreza Type RA lol
All that was in a few months! Good job I've got trade insurance
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Just a quick update. Bought most of the parts to start putting it back together. Just one trip to my local TPS and I'll have everything.
I'm gonna get the rest of my engine out of the car this week and hopefully have the other lump in and ready to turn over by the end of next weekend.
I'll keep posting pictures as I go :happy2:
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Had a delivery today...
Head gasket kit
Head bolts
Oil filter
Pollen filter
Flywheel bolts
5 litres g13 coolant
5 litres shell helix ultra 5w40 oil
Aux belt
Came to £95 delivered from car parts 4 less with a £15 discount code
Genuine water pump and 6 engine mount bolts that are supposed to be replaced with a cambelt change came to £55 from TPS Stockport
Continental cambelt kit was £74 from Quicko in Trafford Park
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You seem to be making good progress :congrats:
Did you install a new pick up pipe?
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I put the one off my broken engine on this lump as it was only a couple of hundred miles old
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The engine was that tight coming out I've decided to take the front end off to get the new one in.
Others might think it's a lot of hassle and try it another way but believe me if your taking the engine out and leaving the gearbox in then remove your front end lol
Makes life a lot easier and it's not hard to do.
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I'll post some more pictures up soon. I'm getting the jet wash out and giving the bay a good going over.
I also had a look at the front brakes, wishbones etc to check the condition :happy2:
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It's the only way front off and the install will be damage free :happy2:
I would of been tempted to fit the lifting bracket where the aux belt tension goes since the box is still left in.
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It's the only way front off and the install will be damage free :happy2:
I would of been tempted to fit the lifting bracket where the aux belt tension goes since the box is still left in.
The lifting bracket? Do you mean the engine mounting bracket or and anchor point for the engine crane to lift from?
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It's the only way front off and the install will be damage free :happy2:
I would of been tempted to fit the lifting bracket where the aux belt tension goes since the box is still left in.
The lifting bracket? Do you mean the engine mounting bracket or and anchor point for the engine crane to lift from?
T10339 tool http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswagen/golf-mk5/power_unit/4-cylinder_injection_engine_(2.0_l_engine_turbocharger)/engine_cylinder_head_valve_gear/cylinder_head/removing_and_installing_toothed_belt_vehicles_with_split_toothed_belt_guard/
Better postion for getting the angles right for gear box mating.
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Basically new oil strainer fitted. Only need new gaskets for the oil return pipe now and that's the engine complete.
Will be ordering a new clutch kit and flywheel in the next couple of days and fingers crossed I can start the refitting process at weekend. If all goes well, if the weather is good and I start early enough then I think I could have it done in a day.
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It's the only way front off and the install will be damage free :happy2:
I would of been tempted to fit the lifting bracket where the aux belt tension goes since the box is still left in.
The lifting bracket? Do you mean the engine mounting bracket or and anchor point for the engine crane to lift from?
T10339 tool http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswagen/golf-mk5/power_unit/4-cylinder_injection_engine_(2.0_l_engine_turbocharger)/engine_cylinder_head_valve_gear/cylinder_head/removing_and_installing_toothed_belt_vehicles_with_split_toothed_belt_guard/
Better postion for getting the angles right for gear box mating.
Ahh I see... I've got plenty of tools, trolleys, jacks, lifting straps and chains so I should be able to get through it lol
If all else fails then I'll try and make something similar.
With the front end off the car I think it should go on nicely, if not then there will be a lot of swearing! Lol
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New Sachs clutch kit and Dual mass turned up today :happy2:
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Nice! Big like! :happy2:
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There's been no progress this weekend in my back garden garage... I ended up having a day out on the bike in Wales yesterday and after a few beers last night while watching the boxing I'm in no fit state to be handling tools lol
I'll be cracking on next weekend with the help of a mate. So she should be driving this time next week :happy2:
What's the best way to upload a video on here? I'd like to put one on when she's running.
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Ready and waiting for Saturday :happy2: just put the inlet manifold on tonight, doubled checked everything is tight and put the updated fuel pipes on so cam follower changes will be easier in the future.
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Well got the engine in today... Abit fiddly but overall not to bad. Filled her up with oil and coolant. Pulled the fuel pump fuse and coil pack connectors off, gave it a crank over just make sure oil got everywhere. Fuse back in, coil packs connected and it started straight away.
Engine sounds sweet!
Only bad point is that the plate that goes between the engine and gearbox seems to catching somewhere on the flywheel and making a right horrible noise :sad1:
I've not put it completely back together as I'm not sure how to sort it out yet and I've had enough for one day.
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Looking good! Nice progress! :happy2:
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I would check bolt 38
http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1728&ein=2007&f=474&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=1&grf=010315249&bf=10315&hgug=103&ug=03&parent_id=2334358&detail_id=2334425
Wrong length would give you the problem!
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I would check bolt 38
http://www.partscats.info/volkswagen/en/?i=cat_vag_models&brand=vw&number=1714&set=1728&ein=2007&f=474&hauptgr=1234567890&hg=1&grf=010315249&bf=10315&hgug=103&ug=03&parent_id=2334358&detail_id=2334425
Wrong length would give you the problem!
I'm struggling to work out where that bolt would be on the car?? Is it the one for the small inspection panel on the back??
If so then it's not that as I have removed that panel upon hearing the noise. I'm hopeing it's not that so there's something else for me to try lol
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That's the one I've seen fitted back to long and cause your noise,so it's not that then.
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Assuming you can account for all other bolts being tight and accounted for (nothing left in there).
The other issue I've had is not having it resting on its wheels causes the flywheel sometimes to emit horrible noise - not on many but on some new clutch installs when the g/box has plenty miles on it (It's always disappeared when the vehicle is its its normal running position).
A recording of the noise may help.
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Ok everything is 100% tight and correct as far as I can tell. I've checked everything I can think off. The only other thing I've not done is bleed the clutch as I didn't think it would be an issue to start it up first and check everything engine wise is ok before doing that.
The gearbox has done 95k and I didn't think it being on axle stands would make a difference???
I'll put a recording up soon. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the cover between the engine and box. I think it's going to be gearbox off to sort it or atleast gearbox pulled away from the block 15-20mm so I can bend it in or something. Pretty annoyed but if that's what I've got to do then I'll have to do it.
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Here's a couple of video of the horrible noise. I can assure anyone that's willing to guess what it could be that's it's not coming from actual engine itself. It may be hard to tell that off the video.
I'm 99% sure it's coming from the gearbox area and the only thing I can see it being is the plate between the box and engine touching the flywheel.
Thanks for the suggestions so far... Do you have any input? I'm lost if it's not that @doylebros (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6153)
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I would want to do more checking before I pulled the gearbox out as I don't go for the plate since you done the mating of the engine to box out of the vehicle and would of seen that touching as you married them up!
Also check the guard on the driveshafts is that touching also turn it over from the driveshaft can you feel the obstruction?
When in and out of gear can you've feel the obstruction when turning the engine over by hand from the crank pulley?
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I left the gearbox in the car and then put then put the engine in. I'll check the other bits you've mentioned. Not bleeding the slave cylinder up (yet) wouldn't make that noise would it? Thanks for the suggestions @doylebros (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6153)
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I can't see why not bleeding the clutch would make any difference and it's the not the strange noise I've heard off a few high mileage gearboxes have made either!
It's more typical of that inspection plate but since it's not fitted it can't be!
What puzzles me is why you didn't feel it when you turned it over by hand prior start cause the noise is loud enough to give a healthy obstruction feel,unless you never barred it over by hand from the crank pulley prior start up?
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I've turned it over by hand once the engine was built etc but not since its been in the car and attached to the box as I'd done it prior and new all was ok
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As I've said you're going to feel it as we can hear it - I wouldn't be suprised it's the driveshaft plate as you'll of had a struggle getting the lump back in.
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Which plate do you mean? The one that bolts on to back of block and goes over the shaft? If so that one was removed then installed again after the engine was mounted in.
I'm going to get a friend to turn the engine over by hand and get under the car, get my head right in the bay etc and just basically check everywhere I can to try and hear the noise
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I'm sure you'll see the problem once your under there and your assistant is turning it over - but I still would of wanted to turn it over myself to feel how difficult the obstruction felt to pass over for good measure as it could be loose item in the fly wheel eg a spring and you wouldn't feel anything just hear it at speed - lets know the out come
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Well the sound is definitely coming from where I suspected. Also when looking threw the removable inspection panel you can see the back of the flywheel and see where the plate has been rubbing on the back of it.
So preparation for the gearbox removal got started today.
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Oh and I did this...
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I think it looks a lot better. Could have done without this miss hap but things done always go to plan. It will all be sorted soon. Hopefully I'll be driving her by weekend.
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Managed to buy these off a mate today :happy2:
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Well it's all running and driving finally!!
Had the day off yesterday so set about it on my own and got it all done by 4ish. Took it for a quick drive, shower then stuck with the Mrs all night lol
Covered about 100 miles in it today and all feels well, EML came on but fault indicates 2nd lambda so it must be because of the decat.
I'll get some pictures up when I've thrown a bucket of water over it.
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Good job mate. :congrats:
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Well not posted for a while.. Just thought I'd add a couple of pictures I took the other day. Some w*nker bumped into the back bumper in a local tesco carpark and drove off without leaving any details so I now need to get it repaired :fighting:
All has been well since she's been on the road, no issues to report. Covered nearly 2000 trouble free miles! And got a Nurburgring trip booked for 11th September :happy2:
I've bought a catback exhaust that I still need to fit, also fitted a genuine VW touch phone kit and got a cruise control stalk to put in. Still need to fit my brakes before leaving for the ring too!
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Well this happened today :happy2:
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Also fitted my cruise control stalk and swapped my wheels around to even up the tyre wear.
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Well fitted the cruise control and I don't have the diagnostic wire :fighting: i didn't even check! Just assumed it would be as I didn't have any issues on my last one. Only found out a couple of days after when I tried coding it in.
I'll have to sort that at a later date.
Fitted my exhaust so it now consists of a 3" decat downpipe mated to a 2.75" direnza system. It actually sounds really well and the fit was very good. It also feels like it pulls better midrange now too.
Here's a quick video of it pretty much straight after fitting. It's sounding better and better each day though.
Also a few more pictures I've taken and not uploaded.
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