BWA Manual Stage 2 Will i need a new clutch?

[AdamGwynne]

Hi all,

I am now thinking about a stage 2 RTECH remap for my BWA Manual MK5 GTI. I have been doing a bit of reading about and I have not seen any definitive answers to if i need an uprated clutch for stage 2. If i was to have a lower torque map for the time being on the OEM clutch until that gives out, then Helix/Sachs after and tweak the map would this be the way to go?

Any suggestions/recommendations welcome 

Cheers, Adam.

[colesey]

There isn’t a definitive answer to this as it will really depend on the condition of your existing clutch and, as you say, the torque can be tamed a little to give it a fighting chance. Since you say Stage 2 and not 2+, then you may be ok.

[AdamGwynne]

There isn’t a definitive answer to this as it will really depend on the condition of your existing clutch and, as you say, the torque can be tamed a little to give it a fighting chance. Since you say Stage 2 and not 2+, then you may be ok.

Thanks Colesey, think i will budget for it just for when it does need doing maybe select a lower torque map when starting to slip. Now to start saving 

[neilw]

My standard clutch ok at the moment with 320hp/350ft/lb R-tech stage2

I'll replaced it if/when it fails.

[Second]

When R-Tech tuned my BWA to stage 2 with 336 ft/lb, the clutch completley failed the following day and there were no signs of it slipping during mapping. Definitley budget it in!

[colesey]

When R-Tech tuned my BWA to stage 2 with 336 ft/lb, the clutch completley failed the following day and there were no signs of it slipping during mapping. Definitley budget it in!

How many miles old was your clutch?

[Second]

When R-Tech tuned my BWA to stage 2 with 336 ft/lb, the clutch completley failed the following day and there were no signs of it slipping during mapping. Definitley budget it in!

How many miles old was your clutch?

Approximatley 80000 miles.

[Ricky123]

All depends on the mileage/condition of your current clutch. An oem Sachs clutch kit was absolutely fine on my old stage 2

[pudding]

Mine slipped on the dyno at exactly 300lbft. 80K miles old.  I had to stick a Helix kit in to hold stage 1, let alone stage 2/2+ !!

The OEM clutch is only rated to 280ish lbft, so remaps will kill them off pretty quickly, especially if half worn or more.

Where you will notice it the most on the road is giving it the beans up a hill in 4th, around 3000rpm.  If the revs rise sharply but the car doesn't accelerate.....new clutch time.

Get the Helix kit with the recent billet cover from AKS Tuning.  DO NOT get a Sachs sporting kit, or an early Helix kit that uses the Sachs sporting cover plate.  They are bloody awful.