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Oscarli re-map
« on: October 11, 2011, 02:09:06 pm »
Hi guys, has anyone had any experience of Oscarli remaps?
Apparently it's something to do with a guy that was involved with revo.
There's a tuner locally "Clive atthowe" that can supply this map for £398 and says its fairly similar to revo @ £598, hence why I'm interested.

Any comments/opinions welcome

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 02:20:39 pm »
It's the front end for a guy called Richard Washbrook.

If you ask about him in the VAG world all will become clear.  :wink:

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 07:34:42 pm »
I tried a seemingly similar map to Revo, 'same guy who has now left Revo'..... Motech was the name

The map was cheap and CRAP..... Anyway Revo is £499 before offers not £598 ?

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 07:42:19 pm »
I tried a seemingly similar map to Revo, 'same guy who has now left Revo'..... Motech was the name

The map was cheap and CRAP..... Anyway Revo is £499 before offers not £598 ?

What did you find crap about it. I've had their map on 3 vehicles now and they seem great and Mike is very knowledgeable and helpful.

In contrast I've had bad experiences with Revo with them not properly reverting cars to standard after trials etc.
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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 07:45:25 pm »
Been looking at ur other post Jedi with group buy and was gonna get in touch about that.
Seems a good price and have seen a couple of good Motech reviews.

Never thought getting car re-mapped would be so confusing!!    :confused:

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 07:50:36 pm »
Best bet is to drop Mike an email from his website

He did my Caddy van and my dads Pug HDI and then I got him to do the GTI yesterday. Had his map on the Caddy and the pug for ages and they both run better (better mpg) and give a good power hike.

Early days on the GTI but it feels lovely and although he is less heard of on this forum he does lots on edition38 and other VAG based forums.
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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 07:58:27 pm »
Make sure Clive installs the correct map if you go for REVO.... ;-)

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 08:06:20 pm »
Revo is 499+vat.

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 07:00:30 am »
I tried a seemingly similar map to Revo, 'same guy who has now left Revo'..... Motech was the name

The map was cheap and CRAP..... Anyway Revo is £499 before offers not £598 ?

What did you find crap about it. I've had their map on 3 vehicles now and they seem great and Mike is very knowledgeable and helpful.

In contrast I've had bad experiences with Revo with them not properly reverting cars to standard after trials etc.

I found the Motech map seemed to exaggerate Lag and felt very 'elastic' when driven, it improved with the VW closed loop trim, but was far less crisp and smooth than stock, pulled reasonably hard on FT but reminded me of how my RS was when I ram Motec (Not Motech) when I mapped the car with laptop and PC using data logging and was only part way through. It was not a great experience, I was either going to go back to stock or try another map. It felt crude and consumed more fuel too.

First drive with a REVO map (I did fit a sport CAT at the same time, so no direct power comparisons are really fair) it was crisp, more responsive, smooth and felt like an improved factory car, not a less than perfect modded car. The car is crisp, clean, responsive, oodles of grunt and power, sounds great and I have not looked back.

There may have been a problem with the map, perhaps it was a GTi and not ED30/Pirelli map, who knows. But paying the extra for REVO was worth every penny. Just my experience, but I was happier stock than with Motech

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 09:46:00 am »
Well I cant dispute the fact you had issues....or felt you had issues... I've not driven another mapped GTi so cant comment... but I'm 99% sure it wouldnt have been the wrong map (IE not for your car) as each map is unique for a car. I was standing there as he was on the phone to Richard discussing my car and Richard was txting him saying its almost done etc... So im confident each map is genuine and its not just an 'off the shelf' 'one map fits all' kind of thing.

I guess there are good and bad stories on anything... As I said I had a bad experience with Revo so would be reluctant to go back to them personally but its all down to who / what your happy with on your own car at the end of the day.

What I will say about Motech is that they have a 14 day money back period where at the end of the 14 days if you dont like it Mike will flash it back to your old map (he takes a copy)... unlike Revo who just change the parameters back to their version of standard rather than putting your old map back on.
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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 04:11:36 pm »
I guess you have to go with your own experiences.

Having mapped cars on 'proper' engine management system eg MoteC M48 and 800. I know how long it takes for a road solution (ie part throttle in various conditions) Even with data logging, closed loop trim and high quality sensors it's a lot of hours. The good part of a tweaked stock ECU is the base map will be close, the bad news is they are much more difficult to adjust as they are not designed to do so outside of the factory. I have certainly never seen 3D maps downloadable from a data logged test drive for example or live adjusting of the ECU in flight while measuring and reading all data.

The best maps will be made by those who have the best access and insight and have done the most dyno and road time

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Re: Oscarli re-map
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2011, 10:23:57 am »
Thanks for your comments guys.
After reading loads if reviews, I've booked in with R-tech in Leicester.