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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2016, 06:00:05 pm »
My ED30 is on 67k and is slightly lumpy on idle.

I'm taking it on a 320 mile round trip to Alex at AKS to have the inlet valves cleaned properly - no messing around!

Rich

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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 06:06:24 pm »
Cheapest way to inspect the intake valves is a bore-scope.
My valves and guides looked like this prior to cleaning:


Like this after cleaning with 1 part spirits to 4 parts petrol doing my own blow-by method through the IAT sensor on the intake mani:


The best results come from a media blast or manual scraping...but you can see the majority of deposits fell off with the blow-by.

This vid I made shows your access for the bore-scope...but disregard the audio description of the ratio of the solution, should one choose to clean this way, as I find it better to use 1-part spirits to 4-parts petrol.

That's yuk ROH ECHT I bet most of out gti's have this in out cylinder heads. I'm going to try and give it a shot of something this year and see if it helps. will buy a bore scope and then go with the petrol and spirit me this and see if this helps.  :drinking:

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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2016, 06:41:33 pm »
There are some products, for direct injection valve cleaning, in a spray can that are made for spraying into the throttle body. You could just use one of those if you choose, rather than using the pressure sprayer, but you can spray it into the IAT hole instead because easier than separating the TB hose from the TB. You'll want to seal the gap between the tiny straw and the IAT hole so it runs better. Then when it's done, you'll have a CEL, but it will clear itself...if for some reason it does not...you can have it cleared. Don't forget to have the engine warmed up to running temps before beginning.  :happy2:
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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2016, 08:27:43 pm »
I was also thinking Mr muscle oven degreaser. used it on my tt a few years back just try it out as it was recommended by a friend who modifies cars for fun and it's really good stuff for degreasing.  :happy2:

Thanks for the advise ROH ECHT I probably would go through there as the TB would be a pain unlike the 1.8T.  :drinking:

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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2016, 09:25:05 pm »
My ED30 is on 67k and is slightly lumpy on idle.

I'm taking it on a 320 mile round trip to Alex at AKS to have the inlet valves cleaned properly - no messing around!

Rich

@richtung I thought of doing the same on my 123k GTI - how much is it costing you?

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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2016, 09:49:11 pm »
My ED30 is on 67k and is slightly lumpy on idle.

I'm taking it on a 320 mile round trip to Alex at AKS to have the inlet valves cleaned properly - no messing around!

Rich

@richtung I thought of doing the same on my 123k GTI - how much is it costing you?

A couple of months ago it was around £320 I think with new injector seals, that was a manual clean. Alex said he was ordering a walnut gizmo so I don't know if he has that yet.

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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 03:54:58 am »
The media blast is a lot less headache than a manual scrubbing for sure...and does the job nicely if you want the most thorough job done.
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Re: Can you visually inspect head valves for carbon deposits?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 11:39:19 am »
My ED30 is on 67k and is slightly lumpy on idle.

I'm taking it on a 320 mile round trip to Alex at AKS to have the inlet valves cleaned properly - no messing around!

Rich

@richtung I thought of doing the same on my 123k GTI - how much is it costing you?

AKS quoted me £352 all in with the media blasting - seems like a decent price for a job that is probably more effective than cleaning by hand.

Rich