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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2016, 06:53:22 pm »
I replaced my clutch kit on my audi tt mk1 and believe it or not there was not a slightest bit of play in it at 115000 miles but I replaced it for piece of mind anyway lol

Just replace it when you're sure you need to and the vibration is intolerable as I myself am OCD with these little niggly issue.


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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2016, 07:15:22 pm »
I replaced my clutch kit on my audi tt mk1 and believe it or not there was not a slightest bit of play in it at 115000 miles but I replaced it for piece of mind anyway lol

Just replace it when you're sure you need to and the vibration is intolerable as I myself am OCD with these little niggly issue.


Knowing my luck i will change it and have the same problem.  :rolleye:

Will focus on the other car for now as i think its going to fail soon.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2016, 08:20:10 pm »
I'm sure you'll be fine after replacing it along with the dual clutch packs buy not cheap mind.
Here's my gearbox mounting  :surprised:
Seriously you wouldn't believe it but it moved the same way yours did on your video but once off the car this is how much play it had. couldn't upload the video in photobucket before but now uploaded so I thought I'd show you.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2016, 11:41:14 am »
I'm sure you'll be fine after replacing it along with the dual clutch packs buy not cheap mind.
Here's my gearbox mounting  :surprised:
Seriously you wouldn't believe it but it moved the same way yours did on your video but once off the car this is how much play it had. couldn't upload the video in photobucket before but now uploaded so I thought I'd show you.
Do you have a vid of the new one? Was it a lot stiffer??

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2016, 12:07:04 pm »
I couldn't move the new one with my strength so didn't bother with a video and yes it was very stiff.
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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2016, 12:36:32 pm »
I couldn't move the new one with my strength so didn't bother with a video and yes it was very stiff.
Thanks mate another video showing the movement in the dogbone you can also see the bolt in the dogbone bush move, all i'm doing is selecting D R N P. Don't know if this amount on movement is normal. Although i've changed the cam chain, tension and adjustor still think my car sounds like a diesel.

[vid]http://daz.co/video/20160116_131511_001.mp4[/vid]

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2016, 01:05:59 pm »
Tbh I'm not sure it that's normal or not. Seem to be moving quite a lot though. I'd recommend a powerflex insert as I did with mine to prevent such movement.
Have the two bushes ever been replaced?.
Do you have an insert in there. Bolt looks like it's moving excessively tbh.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 01:12:35 pm by r5gtt »

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2016, 01:10:38 pm »
Tbh I'm not sure it that's normal or not. Seem to be moving quite a bit though.
Have the two bushes ever been replaced?.
Do you have an insert in there?.
Don't think anything has been replaced, no insert either. I think the gearbox mount is like yours i had a little look at it yesterday when i took the starter motor out. The gear box mount is easy the dog bone not so much as i don't have a press and the sub frame would need to come out.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2016, 01:18:48 pm »
Tbh I'm not sure it that's normal or not. Seem to be moving quite a bit though.
Have the two bushes ever been replaced?.
Do you have an insert in there?.
Don't think anything has been replaced, no insert either. I think the gearbox mount is like yours i had a little look at it yesterday when i took the starter motor out. The gear box mount is easy the dog bone not so much as i don't have a press and the sub frame would need to come out.
I'd replace both mounts. The dog mount is a pita to do as the bolt is usually seized in the mount. I struggled with a breaker bar and plenty of maintenance spray  :scared: don't ever want to do one of those again ever ever ever!!!
You can snap the bolt in if your not careful. my car was on a ramp when I replaced it. It's not fun so anyone tell you different is talking poop  :sick: air gun yeah whatever as it just makes your hand vibrate back and forth. Refitted the bolt is a piece of cake as it doesn't have to go as far as the huge washer and smaller washer that comes with the the insert act as spacers.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2016, 01:21:08 pm »
So you replaced the mount or just added the insert? Wouldn't the mount be ok just the bushing that is bad?

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2016, 01:21:39 pm »
Don't worry about taking the old bushing out as the insert will act as an in between so reduce the play in the mount.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2016, 01:25:18 pm »
Don't worry about taking the old bushing out as the insert will act as an in between so reduce the play in the mount.
So just an insert in needed and some new bolts? No need to change the mount.

Still think its the DMF i'm sure i can hear pebbles in a can by the gearbox. But my engine is so noisy its hard to tell.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2016, 01:27:14 pm »
So you replaced the mount or just added the insert? Wouldn't the mount be ok just the bushing that is bad?
The arm itself would be fine but the rubber in the round bushes will be worn out but once the insert has be fitted you don't have to worry about these for many years.

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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2016, 01:29:56 pm »
Here's my insert.



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Re: Help identifying this noise please!?
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2016, 01:34:09 pm »
Don't worry about taking the old bushing out as the insert will act as an in between so reduce the play in the mount.
So just an insert in needed and some new bolts? No need to change the mount.

Still think its the DMF i'm sure i can hear pebbles in a can by the gearbox. But my engine is so noisy its hard to tell.
dazza, imho mate. I'd replace all the bushes and mounts as mentioned where they have perished or weak and wait for the dmf to have excessive wear or play and then worry about that but get the basics sorted out.  :smiley:

You can get a new bolt as it's better to have one available to hand as they do seize into the top bush.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 01:51:51 pm by r5gtt »