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Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« on: January 06, 2010, 05:44:09 pm »
Hey all,

As many know the ED30 / S3 / Cupra 2.0T FSI motor is a little different..

Different pistons and rods, using a larger diameter pin and non-tapered piston..

Anyways, im going to have a set of custom rods made for mine which will work with the stock pistons, for those that are looking for peace of mind when running more power but dont want to go down the road of having the engine torn apart, re bored etc etc..

Fitting should be around 2 days start to finish..

Price will be around £500 for a set of 4

Let me know if your interested now before I get mine sent over from the US...

Jonny
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 05:55:15 pm »
Who's making them Jonny?

Why not just get the IE rods or some ready made ones from Carillo?

Why staying with the stock pistons?

Not going for race cams? - I've just ordered some Schrick race cams - makes sense to fit at the same time too :happy2:
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 06:02:43 pm »
Who's making them Jonny?

Why not just get the IE rods or some ready made ones from Carillo?

Why staying with the stock pistons?

Not going for race cams? - I've just ordered some Schrick race cams - makes sense to fit at the same time too :happy2:

No one does a drop in rod for that piston, thats why im having some made up..

I was thinking about cams, but up until now no one has proved them to make any more power at all.. In fact, im sure one of the guys in the states lost a bit of mid range and gained nothing up top..

Staying stock pistons purely to keep the stock CR and avoid having to fully build the engine, the difference in cost is a couple of grand in the end..

Im building the head too so it will be interesting to know.. When are you doing cams on yours?  :smiley:
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2010, 06:12:40 pm »
Cams will go in as soon as they arrive from Germany.

I spoke to Regal and they say that I should expect to see 15/20bhp in the mid to upper rev range and 5/10bhp on the peak figure. it is part of my plan on building the top end, which is ongoing along with....

Ported head
Ferrera valvetrain
Supertech valves
Cambelt change
Tensioner change
Water pump change

Also spoke to Revo this afternoon who say that the cams should be even better with an uprated turbo :wink:
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 06:46:51 pm »
Cams will go in as soon as they arrive from Germany.

I spoke to Regal and they say that I should expect to see 15/20bhp in the mid to upper rev range and 5/10bhp on the peak figure. it is part of my plan on building the top end, which is ongoing along with....

Ported head
Ferrera valvetrain
Supertech valves
Cambelt change
Tensioner change
Water pump change

Also spoke to Revo this afternoon who say that the cams should be even better with an uprated turbo :wink:

Yeah couldnt agree more, in theory it will work well.. Its just the inlet cam right? Just in practice no one (that I know of) has made power with them.. But of course thats not to say that they wont make more power with the correct mapping etc etc..

Sounds like a plan mate!! You cant do all that and keep the K04 on there.. haha..

Just ordered a load more bits for mine.. Gooddddddd!  :laugh:
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2010, 07:05:23 pm »
Jonny, could be interested in this what are the tech specs of the rods - alloy type etc.....

I-Beam forged, super high quality (need to confirm the alloy used) but there being used in a car in the states which is just about to go on an engine dyno with a predicted figure of over 800hp at the crank, so there strong!

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2010, 08:44:15 pm »
I'm doing inlet and exhaust cams Jonny, they are a matching pair as I see it and having a different cam on the exhaust would be counterproductive surely???

I've seen inlet cams being sold individually in the US, but I thought you'd need both for the full benefit. Wouldn't you get blow by if the cams aren't matching?
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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2010, 08:53:02 pm »
Are Regal Autosport a good company who know there stuff?

Im asking a serious question as i had never heard of them till just recently

Quite interested in that GT28RS kit for my vRS. 360bhp/350lb.ft will do me just fine

No need then for rods or other bits

Carl :happy2:

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2010, 09:00:27 pm »
That kit from Hurdy is a good bargain for someone, surprised it's still here!

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2010, 09:11:50 pm »
hurdy what cams are these. i believe scrick do cams for the TFSI. will revo  do a custom map for this then.

carl hurdys gt2871 kit would prove better value as its cheaper and from what ive read appears to be the newer version!! and all for 1200 sheet

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2010, 09:20:33 pm »
Hurdy's getting the Schrick cams  :happy2:

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2010, 09:39:18 pm »
Hurdy's getting the Schrick cams  :happy2:

are such cams possible for the k03 engine. i have a k04 turbo sourced now, so i'd be k04 before i would consider them. do you have links etc

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2010, 10:24:08 pm »
Hurdy's getting the Schrick cams  :happy2:

are such cams possible for the k03 engine. i have a k04 turbo sourced now, so i'd be k04 before i would consider them. do you have links etc

Chris at Regal says they fit K03 and K04 engines  :happy2:

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2010, 10:28:34 pm »
Hmmmm............this mod list is feckin endless, everytime i buy someting something else takes its place :scared:.

whatsort of gains are you expecting replacing, have you spoke to REVO reference mapping?

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Re: Drop in rods for the ED30 / S3 / Cupra
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2010, 10:33:06 pm »
Hmmmm............this mod list is feckin endless, everytime i buy someting something else takes its place :scared:.

whatsort of gains are you expecting replacing, have you spoke to REVO reference mapping?

Tell me about it.!

see the 4th post on this thread :happy2:
Cams will go in as soon as they arrive from Germany.

I spoke to Regal and they say that I should expect to see 15/20bhp in the mid to upper rev range and 5/10bhp on the peak figure. it is part of my plan on building the top end, which is ongoing along with....

Ported head
Ferrera valvetrain
Supertech valves
Cambelt change
Tensioner change
Water pump change

Also spoke to Revo this afternoon who say that the cams should be even better with an uprated turbo :wink:

Revo say remapping isn't necessary as Stage 2+ can comfortably exploit the benefits of the cams alongside datalogging :smiley:
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