More feel to power delivery

[Chris92]

Anyone driven any mk2 focus's st or rs? Is it even possible to get our 2.0 tfsi's to feel that surge/push back when we accelarate like how it feels in the st/rs? Just driven my mates r tech stage2+ mk6 r and although it very quick it doesn't really feel it to me, I'd like a little more push back kind of thing when flooring the go pedal.

Can r tech add this in?

Surely there isn't as much point in a liner map as it's all wheel drive, I can see the point on fwd.

[r5gtt]

Sorry I meant mk3 st comes in at 250 hp which is probably why it kicks the way it does and also why there are no front tyres left within a few thousand miles 
Cars got loads of torque Atlow end but it's not what it seems as I've test drove many of them 07 08 plates are totally sh*te unless you pour ££££'s into it. the 12 plates 14 plates are any better for the price when I was working at my last dealership and the power delivery just kills the car- clutch-tyres quicker.

[Madone]

You new to try a KO4 car, a stage 2+ eddy for example will make around 370bhp, that is way more than a normal GTI will ever make. Think a KO3 GTI will make about 300 at stage 2+ ?  The tuning potential between K03 and 04 is night and day.

[Chris92]

Mk2 focus st's are 222bhp 

Ok but I was driving a 370bhp golf r and it just doesn't feel that quick were as you get a say like a rs and it just feel far more meaty and powerfull even tho it isn't as fast. I'd just like a little more feel I'm not saying I want anything crazy and manic.

I was driving a k04  read the full thing ha

[r5gtt]

Mk2 focus st's are 222bhp 

Ok but I was driving a 370bhp golf r and it just doesn't feel that quick were as you get a say like a rs and it just feel far more meaty and powerfull even tho it isn't as fast. I'd just like a little more feel I'm not saying I want anything crazy and manic.

I was driving a k04  read the full thing ha

Oops I was thinking the mk3  mk2 isn't what it seems but llok good and sound great but I chose the golf tfsi over the st as the golf has more tuning potential and 300bhp for a ko3 is awesome in comparison to the st.

[AJP]

You'll do really well to get a real 300bhp reliably from a k03.

Late 280s is more realistic.

But it's not hard to swap to a hybrid k03 or k04 and smash through the 300bhp mark.

[Madone]

Sorry, yea didn't read it and engage brain

From what I hear the RS have quite a punch to their delivery, R-Tech are famous for making smooth maps, you should maybe try something mapped to 370 but with more of a punchy delivery. My eddy is 2+ with revo and has a mighty kick !, I have taken a RS owner out in my car and he thought it was a wild thing and would melt tires quicker than his car !. I personally wanted a revo map for that punch, others want linear maps. I find them less exciting. Give a revo car car a try

[Nasir]

Golf R is 4WD. This really numbs the power delivery. Stage 2 Eddy will give that surge.

[AJP]

I reckon it'd be better to have a 330bhp car with a smooth map than a 300bhp with a thumpy map. (Numbers plucked out of the air for the sake of the argument by the way).

Especially when you consider what your clutch and internals are going through with big aggressive dollops of torque.

[r5gtt]

You'll do really well to get a real 300bhp reliably from a k03.

Late 280s is more realistic.

But it's not hard to swap to a hybrid k03 or k04 and smash through the 300bhp mark.

That's when it gets really  as it's not awd and would lack traction big time. not that it doesn't do thay anyways. 280bhp is still better than 200 standard  but 330 and more is something I wouldn't even bother with unless she's an awd IMHO.

[Madone]

I reckon it'd be better to have a 330bhp car with a smooth map than a 300bhp with a thumpy map. (Numbers plucked out of the air for the sake of the argument by the way).

Especially when you consider what your clutch and internals are going through with big aggressive dollops of torque.

Depends on what you want I guess. I don't care about numbers but do know how fast a car 'feels', and a aggressive delivery feels fast, as per the original post regarding the RS. I don't doubt if I was driving on the track a linear map would be most affective, but on the road something with a hard delivery feels quick, even popping to the shops when you don't have the space to open it up through the revs, that big thump mid range can be accessed easily and puts a big grin on your face every time.

[AJP]

You'll do really well to get a real 300bhp reliably from a k03.

Late 280s is more realistic.

But it's not hard to swap to a hybrid k03 or k04 and smash through the 300bhp mark.

That's when it gets really  as it's not awd and would lack traction big time. not that it doesn't do thay anyways. 280bhp is still better than 200 standard 

Hehe, yeah true mate. Guess it depends how you drive it. I gave up on the idea of getting a good standing start long ago, even before going Stage 1 in fact. 1st and 2nd are useless at WOT, even on MPSS. But...

I feel there's plenty of room for improvement in terms of 'in gear' driving, 3rd and 4th especially. I'm at around 260bhp and 310lb/ft on a k03 and it's so nice to drive; really responsive, but you can really feel the little k03 running out of steam at mid to high revs.

At 2+ you're really stretching the k03 and running it at the edge of its comfort zone...

And that's what's got me thinking about a k03 hybrid, set up with a sensible map that isn't asking the world of the hardware.

If you get a chance, have a read of dansmith's thread.

[r5gtt]

Very true 1st n 2nd gears are or will be useless  That's why 4wd is best for highly torqued vehicles.
Also true on how we use this power. I find 200ps is absolutely shi** and need more to get me to  if I do get the chance I will defo turbo back fmic and stage 2 it for too end power delivery as poxy cars seen to be able to pull away quicker than the tfsi  wish I'd kept the beast  no one wanted to fu** with me on the roads  apart from the new cupra R and an estate RS4 which was wicked blasting down the M25 and M1  They certainly showed me what power was though 

[Chris92]

Sorry, yea didn't read it and engage brain

From what I hear the RS have quite a punch to their delivery, R-Tech are famous for making smooth maps, you should maybe try something mapped to 370 but with more of a punchy delivery. My eddy is 2+ with revo and has a mighty kick !, I have taken a RS owner out in my car and he thought it was a wild thing and would melt tires quicker than his car !. I personally wanted a revo map for that punch, others want linear maps. I find them less exciting. Give a revo car car a try

Yes same I just find smooth maps very boring, want something a little more punchy but nothing that goes like this....nothing nothing nothing BANG all guns blazing kind of thing. Think your right I need a go in a revo mapped car.

I've been stuck between a rs and mk6 r for a couple of years now but after driving the 370bhp r I'm sold on it (minus the delivery).

[Madone]

I did dabble with the idea of seeing if R-Tech could produce a more punchy map, like Revo, but that doesn't seem to be their thing and they pride themselves on smooth delivery, so thought cut out the middle man and just go Revo. Also thought it might sound odd calling R-Tech and saying can you do a map the same as Revo 

 I run boost resetting 9, which is the most aggressive, but have the sps switch so it can be turned down if I wanted. i can't fault Revo. Love it.