URGENT oil pressure stop engine

[Pesky jones]

Cheers. Im going to turn that a few times to see if the engine iss seized and to check the timing is still correct.

[SiofChester]

Lots. Get the pickup pipe and o ring replaced then you can try to start it without fear of doing damage


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[doylebros]

How much crap was in the sump?

When you remove the oil strainer wash it in petrol and see how much crap is in it.

If you do manage to turn the engine leave it at TDC  on the Tbelt end so you can check the chain end.

If it is plugged look second hand cause that will be expensive to diy your engine.

[Pesky jones]

I need to clean it properley to see how much gunk is in There, although it didnt look like loads tbh.

How do I get to see the timng belt and how do I know it is tdc?

And then to check the chain end do I need to remove the cam cover?

[doylebros]

Read that last link I posted and see if you feel confident about that work then read dazza maintenance thread for the cam chain

Both the above require quite a few special tools and aren't top of my list for on the drive outside jobs.

[r5gtt]

If all else fails with TDC

Get a long screw driver or something to put in No1 plug hole once plug is removed then turn the crank a good few times and you'll see the driver bob up and down. You want to get it at rocking so is going up and down when turning the crank nut back and forth. it should be rocking doing this. Hope you understand what I mean?.

[Pesky jones]

@doylebros blimey, all that just to check if timing is correct!?

@r5gtt I followed up until the point where you talk about getting it rocking... And is that a sure way of checking the timing?

If I can turn the engine at the crankshaft nut (not sure I have a 19mm 12pt socket, will a normal 19mm socket do this?) then does that mean the timing is correct, but the chain may have jumped a tooth or two?

I think at the end of the day, I'll just have to clean the pick up pipe (don't need to replace if clean?) put sump back on and re fill with oil and see if it somehow magically starts. To do this ill just need sump sealant, and new oil, right? No other new bits?

If this fails to work (which is looking likely) then it'll be new engine time? Even if the engine does turn at crankshaft nut. Anyone got an idea of cost of second hand engine, labour of fitting and towing to a garage?

[r5gtt]

@doylebros blimey, all that just to check if timing is correct!? I'm going to put my hands up now and say I'm not confident with that guide in the link.

@r5gtt I followed up until the point where you talk about getting it rocking... And is that a sure way of checking the timing?

If I can turn the engine at the crankshaft nut (not sure I have a 19mm 12pt socket, will a normal 19mm socket do this?) then does that mean the timing is correct, but the chain may have jumped a tooth or two?

I think at the end of the day, I'll just have to clean the pick up pipe (don't need to replace if clean?) put sump back on and re fill with oil and see if it somehow magically starts. To do this ill just need sump sealant, and new oil, right? No other new bits?

If this fails to work (which is looking likely) then it'll be new engine time? Even if the engine does turn at crankshaft nut. Anyone got an idea of cost of second hand engine, labour of fitting and towing to a garage?

Yes it's 100% sure proof as ive had to do that a good few times and you can't get it wrong tbh.

You won't be able to git the hex socket on bud no way.

It has to be the one specified 3/4 socket multi spline if you have one or you'll have to take a trip down to halfauds and pick up one. I'd borrow you mine but you're just way to far out for me as it'll take me forever to a day to get to you from central London and with congestion charged to shaft me I think. don't even have the time as I wake up at six am out for 7 and back for 7ish 8pm  proper long week days. last Friday I get home at 840 pm from lakeside as they closed off Dartford bridge and caused tails backs for miles and cars moving one space every 20 to 30mintues as I was in that traffic both at 230pm and 6pm.

[Pesky jones]

No worries at all. I think I won't bother, il go on the assumption it's not seized by the engine cranking. I'm just going to do the oil and if that doesn't work take it to a garage for inspection.

[r5gtt]

Good luck 

[dazza]

The mesh in the pickup pipe goes all the way to the edge so give it a good clean.

You don't need to remove the lower pulley to check TDC.

Cant you turn it to TDC using the nut on the cam shaft pulley?

[r5gtt]

NO NO NO  You never turn it from the cam sprocket ffs you could snap the bolt although I've seen some idiot turn it from there once.
it's easiest the plug way as too much crap to remove any other way.

[dazza]

NO NO NO  You never turn it from the cam sprocket ffs you could snap the bolt although I've seen some idiot turn it from there once.
it's easiest the plug way as too much crap to remove any other way.

Wait for the correct tools, don't want to make a bad situation worse.

Don't listen to me i'm a ….

[r5gtt]

dazza naughty spank   

Seriously I wouldn't advise anyone to turn it from there.. we all need to learn some where and on here is the best place as there a very knowledgeable members who've had the experience of what to do and what NOT to do 

I've watched many of his movies 

[pudding]

If it turns over by hand that's exactly what you want to see.  It means the bill will be a lot smaller!

All you can do is fire it up again with fresh oil and your cleaned out pipe and see what happens, but at least the bottom end will be OK.  Might just need some new bits in the cylinder head.