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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #420 on: March 25, 2016, 11:06:44 pm »
Hopefully you'll be okay mate. I want to hear or read you saying it's all in and nothing much but a few bent valves in cylinders one and two  :jumping:
Yeah don't waste yur money in any further bits till you've dot the compression test done and car firing up and running first.  :happy2:

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #421 on: March 26, 2016, 08:02:16 pm »
head pressure test and skim.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #422 on: March 26, 2016, 08:10:06 pm »
Well ive provisionally sold my mountain bike :sad1: :surprised: so now I have an extra 600 which will hopefully go on head rebuild with valves, stretcher bolts, head gasket, cam chain gasket, coolant, cam belt and waterpump, and most likely a new tensioner and cam chain. Any other costs?

So no luck with getting the tool welded?

When I've tried with new bolts they've failed as the internal pin thread has been stretched beyond usefulness and required me to drill them out and tap to next size up.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #423 on: March 26, 2016, 08:27:28 pm »

So no luck with getting the tool welded?

When I've tried with new bolts they've failed as the internal pin thread has been stretched beyond usefulness and required me to drill them out and tap to next size up.
I feel like contacting sealey this tool was not cheap. Could have bought the original for a little more, think i was to impatient.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VSE6171-Replacement-Chain-In-Service/dp/B00DTELWUG?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #424 on: March 26, 2016, 08:31:26 pm »

So no luck with getting the tool welded?

When I've tried with new bolts they've failed as the internal pin thread has been stretched beyond usefulness and required me to drill them out and tap to next size up.
I feel like contacting sealey this tool was not cheap. Could have bought the original for a little more, think i was to impatient.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VSE6171-Replacement-Chain-In-Service/dp/B00DTELWUG?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
@dazza I would if it's damaged and they should give you a new one FOC as I did with something I bought from draper and it went faulty a tm year in and they didn't even argue.  :smiley:

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #425 on: March 26, 2016, 09:12:26 pm »

So no luck with getting the tool welded?

When I've tried with new bolts they've failed as the internal pin thread has been stretched beyond usefulness and required me to drill them out and tap to next size up.
I feel like contacting sealey this tool was not cheap. Could have bought the original for a little more, think i was to impatient.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VSE6171-Replacement-Chain-In-Service/dp/B00DTELWUG?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
From past experience with Sealey Dazza they will replace it longs its returned damaged in its failed state but if you weld it will last - these chains are getting added to owners list of jobs which isn't a problem cause they let you know when to change it cause the rattle when hot is time for change.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #426 on: March 26, 2016, 09:41:15 pm »
If Peskyjones thinks its straight get the broken one welded alternatively I could try and get a repalcement and Peskyjones could get that welded before he uses it.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #427 on: March 26, 2016, 09:50:51 pm »
Sealey may see a photo of the failed item as enough especially since it's a holiday weekend before welding - welding is an acceptable action since they know the bolts need to be upped in size.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #428 on: March 26, 2016, 10:55:56 pm »
Im a little lost here, I think its the screw from the top that has bent, I was just going to get the tool welded on Tuesday (earliest I can do it) and go from there. Are we saying that the two prongs themselves have bent? Ill have a good look tomorrow but I think its the two little screws.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #429 on: March 26, 2016, 11:03:21 pm »
Im a little lost here, I think its the screw from the top that has bent, I was just going to get the tool welded on Tuesday (earliest I can do it) and go from there. Are we saying that the two prongs themselves have bent? Ill have a good look tomorrow but I think its the two little screws.

Your correct, it's the two bolts have stretched allowing the pins to move out of position thus letting the camshaft move past its locked position.
You'll find the threads in the pins pulled and will fail again with the new bolts only this time with a bit knuckle rash.
If you buy two bolt for trying the tool again they have to be of high grade, check if there stamped with the grading number.
https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/materials-and-grades/bolt-grade-chart.aspx
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 11:05:25 pm by doylebros »

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #430 on: March 26, 2016, 11:06:01 pm »
But its best to get it welded? I can get it done on my lunch break in tuesday.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #431 on: March 26, 2016, 11:11:36 pm »
If you fit two locating bolts back in place, the pins will retake shape, that allows the welding of the pins in the correct position - the tool I use is welded, works perfectly, and I don't worry about losing anymore skin from the knuckles.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #432 on: March 26, 2016, 11:55:12 pm »
Theyre only shallow bolts, can I not just put the pins in without the little bolts facing in the right direction and theyll weld them in place like that providing the pins are straight?

I can try source to little bolts to do it if needs be

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #433 on: March 27, 2016, 10:20:35 am »
No need for the bolts if your going to weld the pins as long as your welder is told you don't want a distorted tool,which welding can easily do.

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Re: URGENT oil pressure stop engine
« Reply #434 on: March 27, 2016, 10:31:29 am »
Ok so try to get some bolts if possible. Like I say they are shallow bolts though im not sure how well they would prevent distortion anyway?