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Re: Brexit
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2016, 12:31:06 pm »
Yeah. What a frog looking twat:)

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2016, 12:31:55 pm »
Agree with the comments Farage made about NHS not guaranteed on receiving full 350 million a week we save from EU membership fees, however, even if a large proportion of that 350 million is pumped into the NHs, that is money the NHS wasn't receiving beforehand and can surely only be seen as beneficial in anyway you look at it? Unless I'm missing something major here.

The problem is they had it all over the side of their bus and it was one of their main arguments. Then 10 minutes latet he laughs it off and says it won't happen.

Where does it say on the bus they will/would spend the whole 350 million though? Nowhere. Also Farage wouldn't be able to guarantee this misquote as he isn't responsible for the budget. I don't think Farage influenced that many people in all honestly. Even a lot of the Brexit camp distanced themselves from him.

I had a pamphlet in the post about it as did the rest of my family. No doubt others got it too.

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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2016, 12:59:40 pm »
Agree with the comments Farage made about NHS not guaranteed on receiving full 350 million a week we save from EU membership fees, however, even if a large proportion of that 350 million is pumped into the NHs, that is money the NHS wasn't receiving beforehand and can surely only be seen as beneficial in anyway you look at it? Unless I'm missing something major here.

The problem is they had it all over the side of their bus and it was one of their main arguments. Then 10 minutes latet he laughs it off and says it won't happen.

Where does it say on the bus they will/would spend the whole 350 million though? Nowhere. Also Farage wouldn't be able to guarantee this misquote as he isn't responsible for the budget. I don't think Farage influenced that many people in all honestly. Even a lot of the Brexit camp distanced themselves from him.

I never expected them to spend it all on the NHS as that's not possible, that money (via the EU) pays for lots of stuff and so a large portion of it will have to be used to cover those expenses.

Its more of an ideal that we put too much money in their pockets when we have issues of our own to sort out. My issue was more the laughing and dismissive attitude towards it than anything else and yes as you said most of the leave campaign wanted nothing to do with him anyways.

Here's a pic of said bus for anyone who hasn't seen it.


Clearly doesn't state they will spend it on that I grant you but its the whole misleading element to it.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2016, 02:16:18 pm »
That Professor would speak in favour of the EU , its what he has been studying for god knows how long and his job depends on it , what will he do now ?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2016, 03:12:58 pm »
Arranged an appointment to change my British license for a Spanish one. Also noticed it expired 2 years ago  :ashamed:

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2016, 03:40:17 pm »
Dansmith180 is correct. That article that's doing the rounds claiming everything is fine is annoying. It's more half truths. You can say the FTSE is better than Feb. However it's had a huge loss since the week before!

FX means things are now more expensive to buy or make. The down grade means it's more expensive to borrow.

Whoever asked about house buying, you're definitely not going to be able to do that.

For me this was a straightforward economic sense thing to stay. Nobody in the leave group could  explain a tangible reason why it's a good idea, and besides if you back Farage and Boris you need your head read.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2016, 03:51:34 pm »
I'm not particularly keen on Michael Gove either @LondonGT

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2016, 03:57:31 pm »
I voted mainly to stop the free movement crap. And also i hate the fact I appoint someone for my government, but ultimately the eu has the last say. Whats the point in me government then?o_O

Im not racist.

I just don't like how for EXAMPLE i have 50 europeans down the road every morning standing there waiting for work?  WTF.

Don't come to this country unless you have a job ready or you work in a field that needs your skills.

I work in construction and know alot of jobs are given to eu's as alot of uk's don't think shovelling cement is a career, fine get dat.

So why are do many of them loitering the streets with 9.9% alc cans in their hands.

Theres lots of system already in place before the leave that were supposed to stop all sorts of bad sh*t.

But i voted from what I could actually physically see myself.

If we need eu workers, fine, bring them in on a points/ skill quota scheme. Everyones happy and hopefully our guys can weed the trouble makers and riff raff.

Re. Selling to the eu after leave. If our guys sold to eu before, they know which reg to manufacture to so no prob ce dem products again. Bonus

Re investments and fx i don't know enough to discuss, but what happened when we bailed out the banks and everyone was broke? We put our heads down and got on with it? Y? Cause this country is worth fighting for.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2016, 03:59:19 pm »
I'm not particularly keen on Michael Gove either @LondonGT

Well if you'd voted stay you'd still have Cameron. Not great but at least him and Osbourne were digging us out of a hole.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2016, 04:25:24 pm »
Very strong possibility the EU could choose to make an example of the U.K. to protect itself


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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2016, 04:44:48 pm »
Very strong possibility the EU could choose to make an example of the U.K. to protect itself


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That is something that does concern me a bit, BUT that's part of the reason I wanted to leave.

The EU's handling of this has been very childish and petty, they're not respecting our choice and helping whilst warning us of possible problems but instead threatening us like children in the playground saying "well we don't want to be your friend anymore then".

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2016, 04:51:05 pm »
I'm not particularly keen on Michael Gove either @LondonGT

Well if you'd voted stay you'd still have Cameron. Not great but at least him and Osbourne were digging us out of a hole.

Agree - and I did vote remain.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2016, 05:03:28 pm »
Very strong possibility the EU could choose to make an example of the U.K. to protect itself


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No chance. You will find other countries are calling for a referendum now. The EU has been poorly run and has hardly been good for the stronger nations. If it had remained a small successful group if countries it would be ok , but too many poor countries are in it now pulling down the more successful countries to their level rather than vice versa.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2016, 05:15:04 pm »
I voted out as I dislike the way the EU dictates to member states and how their authority has crept into daily life without the electorate agreeing to it. Cameron went to them asking for reform with the biggest threat he could; which was leave - and got little in return. Yet the UK seems to pay more & more & more into an expanding Europe.

Now we're told the EU won't miss us, and to get out asap. Really? You won't miss that money?! More arrogance & bullying from the EU, even as we're going...

https://fullfact.org/economy/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

I think the way both campaigns were run was disgusting, and whilst I admire Cameron for giving us the vote - I think his behaviour during the campaign was terrible. He should have been impartial as the leader of the UK, and should have presented reasoned (factual) judgement for both sides, and could have THEN offered his personal belief.

I am not a xenophobe, or anti Europe - I am anti-control by the EU. I strongly believe our best interests will never be at heart in those politicians in the EU looking after the number of nations they do. I am also FED UP of being a cash cow for everyone else.

I believe in the UK - I believe things will take time to work through though...


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2016, 05:21:52 pm »
Very strong possibility the EU could choose to make an example of the U.K. to protect itself


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No chance. You will find other countries are calling for a referendum now. The EU has been poorly run and has hardly been good for the stronger nations. If it had remained a small successful group if countries it would be ok , but too many poor countries are in it now pulling down the more successful countries to their level rather than vice versa.

You simply cannot say that, they will be very bitter about the decision, and never underestimate what people do when threatened.

It's a huge possibility


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