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Clutch advice
« on: January 03, 2017, 08:36:32 pm »
Had a remap today at rtech, made 252bhp and 294ftlbs, it also made the clutch slip in 5th and 6th on the full beans map.

Now the car has 147k on the clock, so I was expecting to change it at some point anyway.

I imagine I will fit an LUK clutch, do people also do the flywheel?

Knocking it down to map 3 didn't make the clutch slip, so I will try map 4 tomorrow.

Anybody had similar?


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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2017, 09:10:54 pm »
Yes do the flywheel at the same time as chances are it will be buggered. Surprised it's held up as well as it has so far with that kind of mileage on it.

Whole setup (with a new CSC and DMF bolts) is around £320-£350 from carparts4less
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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 01:28:45 pm »
That's not a bad price, priced up an LUK clutch and flywheel today £340 + VAT


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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 12:19:12 am »
Curious to this as I've been putting off mapping my car due to the costs of a clutch and flywheel replacement. I was always under the impression it costs £1000+?...

Is this sort of money purely for more performance clutches? With fitting included?...

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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 01:17:17 am »
Apologies - it seems the cost of an LUK DMF has risen drastically since I last looked. It seems to be more like £420 now for everything needed from carparts4less. The LUK DMF being £280 of that
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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 10:55:38 pm »
This happened to me 6 months into mapping my eddy. Clutch slip 4th to 6th gear. I think map settings 1-3  feel the  same power wise with no clutch slip. Map 4 and 5 feel the same also power wise and make the clutch slip.
Been running on map 1 through the winter as traction is a lot better with the reduced volume of torque. Will get an uprated one on the spring.

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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2017, 03:52:22 pm »
294lbft is on the ragged edge of what a standard clutch can handle.  High load and / or low vehicle momentum will make it slip.  4th gear up a hill and nailing it at 3000rpm is a good test.

It's only rated to 280lbft, well, the whole gearbox is actually, but the 'tolerances' VW built into it mean it can run more......on borrowed time.

A brand new standard clutch will handle it until a certain wear point and then it will slip again.  Best bet is to fit a Helix and new DMF and forget about it.  Rated to 350lbft, but can cope with 400 if push comes to shove.

If the gearbox is a pre-2007, you might want to check the end float on the gear shaft behind the plastic cover on the nearside casing.  On some early gearboxes it's excessive and can cause clutch creep.  VW sell a shim kit to rectify it and is a simple DIY procedure, but you do need some decent circlip pliers.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2017, 03:54:14 pm by Pudding »


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Re: Clutch advice
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2017, 11:57:45 am »
Well after testing I can confirm map 3&4 do not make the clutch slip, which is good!

I have a feeling it would be sensible to ride around in map 3 over the winter as the roads are awful!

The car is 2005, I've never heard of this shim kit, is there a part number, do TPS sell it?


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