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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2010, 07:34:31 pm »
is the centre bore not the same with the vrs? i will show mat the pic tomorrow  :happy2:

I noticed this when at VWR last week, Matt assured me that VWR had experienced no problems at all due to the lack of a mounting Spigot, it is due to VWR making the disc Bell thicker (therefore incorporating a spacer).

Matt assured no problems.
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #106 on: March 15, 2010, 07:44:29 pm »
nice one i am down having my new bells fitted and calipers over the next few weeks but will at the track tomorrow with him so will have a chat
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #107 on: March 15, 2010, 08:14:12 pm »
is the centre bore not the same with the vrs? i will show mat the pic tomorrow  :happy2:

is about the length of the center bore. there is no length remain on which i can put the wheel on. I cannot  fit the wheel only on the bolts because they would brake.

ps: sorry for my english, i'm trying to do my best

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #108 on: March 15, 2010, 08:20:01 pm »
another picture, i hope you understand what i am talking about

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #109 on: March 15, 2010, 08:25:41 pm »
yes i will show him the pics but i would not worry about that as once the wheels are bolted on they would never ever move

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #110 on: March 15, 2010, 08:37:08 pm »
for extra safety i ordered a custom-made piece, like an extension to the center bore. I will post pictures with it tomorrow. Hope i can solve this problem

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #111 on: March 16, 2010, 09:31:41 am »
I mentioned this to matt when i went over to see him,
In theory it should be ok without the centre spigot as long as you keep checking the bolts are tight, but then again its there for a reason! I was thinking about machining the spacer off of the bell and just fitting my eibach spacers with the centre spigot again.

It wouldn't be a massive amount of hassle for them to have a spigot machined onto the bell when its first made tho,

Or you could change to studs and nuts on the hub  :smiley:
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #112 on: March 16, 2010, 09:57:24 am »
I see what they've done and understand why, and I'd prefer that to spacers, but I'd still want a spigot regardless. What's this custom piece Teff, can you link it for others?

What does that change the effective ET to then? It might be worth them telling people, as if they're close to the limit already with say my wheels for example on an ET42.. it could push them out too wide.
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #113 on: March 16, 2010, 10:09:44 am »
in this moment i'm going to the tuning shop to see if i got the piece. I don't know how to tell it in English, later i will post the picture and try to explain. Is it like an extension to the centering hub so that the Hub Centric Ring can be mounted on it and after that, the wheel to be fixed on it.


So, this is what i understood from your explanation: they made that disc bell, or how is it called, a little bit thicker so that aftermarket spacers won't be needed. Am i right?

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #114 on: March 16, 2010, 10:32:36 am »
Yes, that is right. The alloy bell that holds the rotor/disc is thicker to push the wheel out further and stop the back of the wheel hitting the caliper. An in-built spacer.

In the opposite, my bells are quite thin, so I have to either use a 3mm spacer or get a bigger offset wheel - but I still have a full spigot to mount on.

It's just 2 different ways of fixing the problem of caliper clearance.

I think I know what you mean by the part, it is like a piece of tube that extends the spigot? That'll be fine, it's only to stop wheel wobble at high speed, the bolts once tight will do all the important work.
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #115 on: March 16, 2010, 10:41:13 am »
yes toni, you're right. That's the piece.

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #116 on: March 16, 2010, 12:35:11 pm »
Ok stop worrying about it I have just had a bell and a hub in my hands and they have the gap at the top but they sit tight to the hub and don't move at all. These are on most of the vwr race cars and I am just watching them racing/testing on them now and trust me the race drivers love em and they don't move a single mm so just don't worry about them at all

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #117 on: March 16, 2010, 12:56:04 pm »
I think he's talking more about the spigot not sticking out enough to mount the wheel on, rather than the bell/hub.

Where are you testing?
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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #118 on: March 16, 2010, 01:09:08 pm »
Oh I get u now. Over at oulton park today

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Re: VW Racing Big Brake kit product review
« Reply #119 on: March 16, 2010, 01:40:12 pm »
You should have said, I'd have come over - how long you there for? I must bust the office....
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