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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2011, 09:55:18 am »
Quote from: the bruce on April 14, 2011, 11:27:03 pm
The weight of the arms depends on if they are with or without the bushing and console.

You are right. Now I remember weighing the arms without the bushing...

Quote from: DaveB1970 on April 15, 2011, 06:28:14 am
You sure the s3 bearing Is the same as a gti bearing........  :confused:

I am also pretty sure the s3 bearing is the same as the gti bearing. As I know of this is the only type made for Golf/A3/Leon/Octavia with 4 nuts (bolts). The other type has 3 nuts (bolts) and is for the less powerful cars.
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2011, 10:16:34 am »
Quote from: the bruce on April 14, 2011, 03:44:56 pm
S3 hub incl. sensor:  3.4 kg (alloy)
It's sound find. I measured 2.9 kg fully naked.

Quote from: the bruce on April 14, 2011, 03:44:56 pm
S3 arm -  2.9 kg  (forged alloy)
S3 or TT arm? I measured TT arm (incl braket and bushes) 2.9kg and 3.5kg (incl balljoint).

Quote from: the bruce on April 14, 2011, 03:44:56 pm
A3/Golf arm - 4.0 kg (welded steel)
Yep, it's what I get too (incl braket and bushes)
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2011, 11:14:51 am »
Think S3 and TT arms will be the same in weight.
Both are forged alloy.
The only difference is the adjustability of the TT arms.

The S3/TT wheel bearing has fully machined surfaces,
the Golf/A3 bearing has not. So the S3/TT looks more
beautiful. It's possibly a newer generation. I don't know
if there's any advantage.
But the dimensions are still the same, so all the bearings
fit all three hubs.


ps
Does anybody know the amount of offset of the WALK?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 11:19:06 am by the bruce »
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2011, 02:31:21 pm »
Mine is an 2006 and has the welded arms  :happy2:
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2011, 05:14:50 pm »
Does your GTI come with Xenon lights from factory?

My 2008 GTI with Xenon came with the cast steel ones.
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2011, 05:51:52 pm »
Quote from: the bruce on April 15, 2011, 05:14:50 pm
Does your GTI come with Xenon lights from factory?

My 2008 GTI with Xenon came with the cast steal ones.

no xenons from factory, but the winterpack which included the headlight washersystem  :wink:
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2011, 06:33:53 pm »
I guess they did the stronger cast arms on the GTI only when it came with xenon.
The GTIs with H7 came with welded arms. Only the ED30s all have the cast arms.

The Mk.VI comes with even cheaper pressed steel arms and these are as light as
the S3 arms (but not as strong of course).
« Last Edit: December 05, 2011, 01:23:10 pm by the bruce »
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2011, 01:37:31 pm »
So anyone knows the real difference between TT and S3 hubs? Why does the TT hub needs more modifications and what are they?
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2011, 08:49:33 am »
I would like to equip a A3 with 8J0.407.253D TT 8J hubs.
What parts I have to buy additional?

Has anyone done this before?

many thanks
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2011, 04:39:40 pm »
Nobody has done it yet... but many are planning :)
We are waiting your progress :)
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2011, 11:12:52 pm »
Quote from: the bruce on April 06, 2011, 12:01:53 pm
Yes, that's right.
And it's the reason why I will swap for the TT arms together with S3 hubs.
Another reason is I got them here ready to fit. The arms are also cheap
and didn't see cheap used TT hubs.






Bruce have you done this yet?

I've had the TT arms on for a couple of months and recently picked up the hubs but have run into trouble

Had the car in bits today only to discover the TT ball joints wouldn't mate with the S3 hubs

Any advice on how to overcome this?
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2011, 11:23:05 pm »
What do you mean by don't mate ? I have the TT arms + balljoints and the S3 hubs and they work perfectly together. You just have to install the balljoint above the arm > check out my pics here > http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12484.30.html
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2011, 11:24:55 pm »
The TT ball joints fit straight to the S3 hubs fine so I'm confused to what the garage are struggling with.

Danish has this setup and Mike has just fitted the TT wishbones to his Cupra which shares the same hubs as the S3.
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2011, 11:42:13 pm »
He was telling me that the ball joint wasn't fitting correctly. That it is loose inside the housing within the hub.

He had a spare passat ball joint and was able to show me that was perfect fit but the TT ball joint just wasn't fitting.

Very confused :stupid:

I bought hubs from a scrappie on the previso they were S3 but it looks like he might have given me passat hubs

Even though they share the same part number, could the passat hubs be different from the S3 and hence the reason they won't fit?
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Re: S3 Alloy Hubs onto a GTI?
« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2011, 12:12:47 am »
Sounds like the steel insert that is pressed into the alloy hub has stuck onto the passat ball joint.

I had the same issue with a Bentley a few weeks back when I changed the hub/upright for a new one.

Can you get me a pic of the ball joint mount on the S3 hubs and then I can confirm and also a pic of the passat ball joint next to the tt one.
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