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Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« on: October 07, 2024, 10:44:15 am »
Well on inspection of the cam adjuster when I replaced the three plastic rings, I have wear grooves inside due to mine being an early 2005 GTI that had the metal rings originally.

Similar to the AKS image here:


Had a quote from TPS and it is £700 + additional parts, and can not bring myself to spend that.

I was thinking of getting an INA one as the rest of the stuff on the car is perfect.....new genuine chain and tensioner done a few years ago etc

Am I being sensible getting the INA part at about £180 :laugh:




« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 03:15:30 pm by mjmallia »
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2024, 03:37:27 pm »
Another possibility is to get a secondhand genuine one.  I can get one still attached to a cam from a Golf 6R 2012........just waiting on some images to see if there is any wear or not from the rings.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 05:12:51 pm by mjmallia »
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2024, 05:20:38 pm »
I've bought an INA wheel, chain and tensioner. No complaints whatsoever. It completely changed the car after fitting cause before, not only was it giving me timing errors, it was also still accelerating even after i left off the gas. I could literally floor it to 3k, let off the gas, shift gears, disengage the clutch and the car would start spinning the tires for a second and a half, pulling forward. All this with the gas pedal being untouched  :signLOL:
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2024, 09:20:13 am »
Well the 6R option has wear on it also, so will most probably go down the new INA route (best of the aftermarket I can find), but will not be attempting this now......more like Spring time 2025.

Just starting to prepare myself with parts and tools
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2024, 09:27:16 am »
I have a used OEM part that has no markings on it. I can send photos as soon as I get to it. It needs one of the small bolts replaced because it stripped when I tried to open it for cleaning and further inspection.
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2024, 03:39:32 pm »
Bite the bullet time and ordered an INA cam adjuster and elring gasket set at a really good price, but also ordered the genuine bolt and socket tool from TPS
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2024, 05:21:05 pm »
Careful with that bolt. Strips insanely easy. I've had to hammer an M10 into mine to get it out
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2024, 05:23:55 pm »
Careful with that bolt. Strips insanely easy. I've had to hammer an M10 into mine to get it out
I did that 1 month ago.. I had to drill it out. First time drilling into an engine isn’t a pleasure:)
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2024, 09:46:47 pm »
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2024, 10:04:30 pm »
Good luck with it!!
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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2024, 07:26:50 pm »
Small update.

Had the parts and tools delivered.

The cam locking tool was cleaned up, then I welded it up for strength with a lick of paint to finish. Not pretty but will do the job







Even the chain which I believe to be genuine VW in INA packaging has the copper link like OE



The INA parts look like really good quality and a few have the VW part numbers ground off



Here is a genuine VW part and you can see the part numbers etc before they were ground off






Finally the cam adjuster which is fresh and smooth on the inside. Feels like a very weighty and solid part, so feel more confident having seen the quality of it now.



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Re: Cam adjuster/phaser wear
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2024, 07:28:19 pm »
Next i need to book a day off work to attack it all.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2024, 07:31:16 pm by mjmallia »
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