whats the best air intake?

[b7unr]

Hi i`m looking to buy a new air intake system, i was wondering what is the best one to get as they seem to range from £60 to £250.

THanks

[danishmkvgti]

best "almost" oem in noise= Carbonio
Best "moderat noise"=Forge twintake
Darth Vader=ITG

IMO 

[boe3]

Hopefully this is not hi jacking your post but I had pritty much decided to go for the itg but in the back of my mind is I don't want people thinking I'm some sort of boy racer with it making loads of noise would I be best to switch to the forge twin take is this a lot quiter?

[djhorace]

Carbonio does virtually nothing to improve performance which negates the purpose in fitting one IMO, especially when the noise does not change.

A good intake for decent gains and minimal noise is the Dbilas. There are always a few of these in the for sale section as people (wrongly) believe open cones are going to give them loads more bhp over the Dbilas and decide to jump on the ITG/Twintake band wagon because its what everyone else is doing and claims of higher bhp etc with them.

For what its worth, my car made 337bhp (at the wheels) with a Dbilas (Revo S2+ 2.0T K04 Cupra) . I recently changed to an Evoms as I wanted more intake noise. I chose Evoms as it uses a large cotton cone rather than a foam filter as seen on the ITG, and it is less "home made" looking than the ITG. The Twintake is an expensive option, and being honest, I cannot see how the second intake is going to catch that much air having seen one fitted to a car.

There is also the 3" VF Intake option with the Evoms cone modification which is recommended for cars with the GIAC Extreme Plus file.

[RedRobin]

The Twintake is an expensive option, and being honest, I cannot see how the second intake is going to catch that much air having seen one fitted to a car.

....The Twintake is only a little bit cheaper than the ITG and on back-to-back dyno runs has added 21bhp to my K03 GTI, so whether you understand the second filter or not doesn't matter.

The term "best" is somewhat subjective. We all like different sounds and different looks and not all of us have the same attitude about the money we spend.

[jmspear]

Hi Redrobin, is that the twintake gained 21bhp over the ITG with no other changes to the car? I thought from other posts that the ITG gave more power than twintake in back to back, but I think this was on k04 cars?

[Janner_Sy]

if you bought the BSH, Evoms, twintake or ITG you wouldnt be disappointed.  they are  all good and will all give you good gains.  

My order for purchase there would be

1)twintake or ITG (couldnt really pick a favourite there)
2)Evoms
3)BSH

the Dbilias wouldnt even be on my list despite making good gains.  it uses the tiniest of panel filters to make the same sort of gains as a big cone filter.....i know id choose the bigger option everytime to ensure i was filter the air as much as possible.  plus after hearing TFSImikes dbilias before we swapped it to the ITG and i thought it sounded weird

Hi Redrobin, is that the twintake gained 21bhp over the ITG with no other changes to the car? I thought from other posts that the ITG gave more power than twintake in back to back, but I think this was on k04 cars?

no he gained 21Hp over the stock airbox with the carbonio scoop and panel filter whilst at stage 2

[djhorace]

....The Twintake is only a little bit cheaper than the ITG and on back-to-back dyno runs has added 21bhp to my K03 GTI, so whether you understand the second filter or not doesn't matter.

The term "best" is somewhat subjective. We all like different sounds and different looks and not all of us have the same attitude about the money we spend.

I realise that, but you would probably have attained the same gain with any of the other intakes with the same test I bet. Also remember that r/r results can differ by as much as half the gain you saw on back to back runs, so its really not fully conclusive.

Agreed that the word "best" is subjective though  . I bought the Dbilas when it was the most expensive K04 option, but I am not sold on most expensive is necessarily the best. For example, I have Autotech anti roll bars on my car, the most expensive ones on the market as far as I know, and I genuinely dont think they are, if at all, much better than the standard anti roll bars were.

[RedRobin]

^^^^
   

The bottom line is that the 2.0T FSI engines respond well to aftermarket high-flow tubular intakes with some impressive power gains and that we have three or four good ones to choose from.

For what it's worth, my top three "best" would be:

1) - Forge Twintake
2) - ITG
3) - EVOMS

They're all close in performance and it comes down to soundz, eye-candy and cost.

[boe3]

How much differnce in sound is there between the twin take and itg I'm looking for some noise but not massivley over the top 

[RedRobin]

How much differnce in sound is there between the twin take and itg I'm looking for some noise but not massivley over the top
 

....They say the ITG is 'louder'. The EVOMS is def the noisiest, but:

The sounds each air intake makes will depend on the host car's whole package, which includes aftermarket mods. It also depends on what the individual driver's hearing range or focus is. It's a variable dynamic and a tube (high-flow tubular intake) will amplify various sounds and also do so according to the resonance of the materials used. Temperatures also influence the sounds.

In my case, the VWR engine mounts transfer a lot of sound to the cabin (something I love), not just the Twintake's.

As you may know, I'm a musician and also do my own recording and sound engineering/production (with someone else sat alongside who is very very experienced). So, I'll use that comparison to try to explain:

Imagine a song with several tracks. If you fatten up the bass guitar sound it might obscure some of the others such as rhythm guitar. If you reduce the level of a lead guitar it might reveal more of the singer's nuances. The whole is called the mix and the final mix is what you hear, and each of us might hear that mix slightly differently. And hear different parts on different occasions.

For my car and for me, I find the Twintake hits my sweet spot.

I hope this helps!

[acespizee]

Carbonio does virtually nothing to improve performance which negates the purpose in fitting one IMO, especially when the noise does not change.

A good intake for decent gains and minimal noise is the Dbilas. There are always a few of these in the for sale section as people (wrongly) believe open cones are going to give them loads more bhp over the Dbilas and decide to jump on the ITG/Twintake band wagon because its what everyone else is doing and claims of higher bhp etc with them.

For what its worth, my car made 337bhp (at the wheels) with a Dbilas (Revo S2+ 2.0T K04 Cupra) . I recently changed to an Evoms as I wanted more intake noise. I chose Evoms as it uses a large cotton cone rather than a foam filter as seen on the ITG, and it is less "home made" looking than the ITG. The Twintake is an expensive option, and being honest, I cannot see how the second intake is going to catch that much air having seen one fitted to a car.

There is also the 3" VF Intake option with the Evoms cone modification which is recommended for cars with the GIAC Extreme Plus file.

I made a custom Twin set-up and i make 308 bhp and 307tq (280 bhp at the wheels) on my K03 along with my other mods, up from 280 bhp and 289 tq with Dbilas.

Twin-intakes definetly work.

Mine's is a mix of Forge and Dbilas.

[CarrG]

^^^^ Nice. Whats the noise like?  Have you modified your front Dbilas brackets?

[Janner_Sy]

 

I wouldnt want to hit a puddle or drive behind another cars spray with that lower filter. That must be a recipe for water ingress into the air intake system. 

If you made gains then good for you, but there is no way id be happy with that.  Also congrats on the output. thats the most powerful k03 ive seen to date .

Also another point as well is looking at your filters, you have two different brands/styles of filter-one panel/1 cone. these wil have different flow characteristic causing more disruption where the two air flows meet,  there is an array of different sizedhose connections to disrupt air flow even more

[RedRobin]

I wouldnt want to hit a puddle or drive behind another cars spray with that lower filter. That must be a recipe for water ingress into the air intake system. 

If you made gains then good for you, but there is no way id be happy with that.  Also congrats on the output. thats the most powerful k03 ive seen to date .

Also another point as well is looking at your filters, you have two different brands/styles of filter-one panel/1 cone. these wil have different flow characteristic causing more disruption where the two air flows meet,  there is an array of different sizedhose connections to disrupt air flow even more

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