Heeeeelp pls. Monza Valves Don't fit!!!!!

[Boothy]

Your in Leeds right? The valves should be here on Thursday so if they'll help you your welcome to them but be aware they need scrubbing up but they definitely fit as they came off my BBS Monza 2's about a month back. I'm in Ossett just off the M1 so just let me know if you need em bud.

[nc35]

Probably a life saver 
rims have been at tyre fitters for a week now
As soon as they are ready let me know pls. Quick dash down the M1
Thanks again.
Lee

[JonnyG]

I remember this from a previous thread, hopefully might help you 

There seems to be a bit of confusion about where to locate the sealing ring

Here is a scan of the page...

Yep, RR is right, ETKA is the parts database they use..

The picture was scanned from ELSAwin which is the workshop software actually used in the main dealers. It details step by step guides and procedures on servicing and repairs from changing a bulb to replacing the clutches in a DSG gearbox..

One note on that diagram, it seems to show Seal 5 going between Part 6 and the wheel when in fact it goes between part 4 and the wheel as there is already a seal fitted to part six, I noticed this as I was taking the old ones , that were factory fitted, off. Here is a picture of an old one. The part Number is 1K0601361




I have to say though the seals look fine after 15000 miles so maybe it is being a bit over cautious and VW are taking the p*** 

I fitted mine, as they came off, (as per the factory 'assembled ' ones) as it makes more sense to have the O-ring forming an air seal against the outer surface of the wheel rim imo .....

I'm pretty sure this changed on later Monza II's and that OEM wheels after 2007 came with normal black plastic valves.

2005-2007 - 1K0 601 025 AH
2008 - 1K0 601 025 BA
2009 - 1K0 601 025 AM

The only differences are as to what tyre valve is fitted:

1K0601025AM16Z - Metal Valve
Valve Part Number: 1K0601361B

1K0601025BA16Z - Rubber Valve
Standard tyre valve

[nc35]

I will get the part numbers off the rims tomorrow. Sure they are all the same but will double check.

Can't believe there are different valves for different rims.

[Boothy]

Hopefully you'll now be able to fit the ones you have but i'll drop you a PM when my old ones arrive mate. 

[manc01]

Sorry for dragging this thread up.. but i just purchased a GTi, and noticed one of the alloys uses these metal valves. So if i ever need to get tyre changed do i need to go to VW to buy these valves first? as it seems people are having problems getting these replaced at your normal tyre fitters?? 

[Boothy]

Sorry for dragging this thread up.. but i just purchased a GTi, and noticed one of the alloys uses these metal valves. So if i ever need to get tyre changed do i need to go to VW to buy these valves first? as it seems people are having problems getting these replaced at your normal tyre fitters?? 

Yes but only if they need to be replaced and at nearly £50 for a set I'd check first. Its the little rubber seals that apparently go however after 60k mine were still fine.

[nc35]

Yes - chuffing nightmare....

don't be shocked if stealers don't have them in stock either, will have to be ordered in.

Think they have changed from BBS to Ronal rims - if you have Ronal I don't think you will have any of these issues.  Most standard valves fit.

Good luck.

[manc01]

Thanks for the prompt replies.. what a bummer..!! £50 for a set..!! Do these valves need changing everytime you change tyre, like the rubber ones.?!!!

[nc35]

No - that is the only benefit.... 

6 - 7 tyre changes and you break even.  Depending upon how much your fitter charges (some don't charge) and if the seals on the metal valves stay intact...

But this doesn't take into account that they look really good, but better than boring rubber valves.

[nc35]

Watch out for the metal valve caps.  Little scroats will whip them before you get home

[manc01]

phew.. OK at least that's not too bad, since i have the valve already..

[ub7rm]

I think its only on the 18" you need to replace the whole valve?  On my 17" monza's it has the metal valve but they've been able to re-core it or something everytime it needs new rubber.

[manc01]

I think its only on the 18" you need to replace the whole valve?  On my 17" monza's it has the metal valve but they've been able to re-core it or something everytime it needs new rubber.

hhmmm..?? i do have 18s.. ok can anyone clarify please... 
If they can be re-used i assume i have to tell the tyre fitters as i assume they always quote for new valves and throw old ones away.!!

[nc35]

Yes you can re use.

If the valve itself fails - the center valve core can be replaced.

Sat looking at a couple on my desk now...  Really sad the amount of cr@p on my desk.